Post Links Anywhere?

You’ll be considered as a spammer and even your website can also be banned because of this.

Really? So you mean I should do this for my competitors sites to get them banned?

Quality of link really matter the most and secondly as you are hiring someone to do the backlinking so it should not be banned by any website. As he will get money when your links are confirmed. Secondly they will generate a report of backlinks. Which can help in determining the quality of links…

Uh, If the site that I submit links to is broad or includes almost everything, does this still go against my optimization?

You’ve just openly admitted to spamming a forum.

As far as I am concerned, and this is a topic that gets raised here almost every month, if you join a forum with the sole intent of spreading your own links then you’re spamming. I don’t care if it is relevant to your interests, or whether you’re only pushing your links when it is relevant. If you’re not contributing to the community on a regular basis people will only see your comments as spam and they’ll be ignored.

Not only that, but forum posts are often useless. In essence, they are long-tail pages and as someone who has read through the Chris Anderson book I can say with some certainty that most SEO spammers that worship the idea of long-tail SEO really don’t have the slightest clue.

No, they’re spamming social bookmarking websites and their posts will be ignored, and will probably even have the fake users banned. Google will not pay these links any attention whatsoever. Free directories are nothing more than link farms any way.

It won’t “hurt” it necessarily, but you’ll do yourself no good, and if you’ve hired a company that would seriously consider this to be a chargeable pursuit then I would get out of whatever you’ve signed with them as soon as possible.

Well, what did you expect? SEO is not a silver bullet. If you want a popular website you need to spend time, money and other resources to create the best possible website for your users. If you’re running a service website then that service needs to be brilliant, if you’re running a content website then your content needs to be better than everyone else’s.

That’s the only rule of SEO. Everything else is largely good Web Development and Quack Science.

Some time later and I now know all the tricks of the trade…

You need a nice looking link profile, authority links, yada yada yada

But until you get these things and and only if you have a domain more than a year old you can

Do things like, create an article with all spintax text every single word, create 12 articles/mini sites on places like squido, hubpages etc etc, then use xrunner or a similar forum posting software to blast anchor links to those articles you created RELENTLESSLY like 100’s of thousands of them. wow it goes crazy! and when Google eventually does catch on to this… move on to the latest trend

we are talking about creating fake profiles on forums here… not spamming viagra links

who is getting hurt by this?

My site does have very good unique content and provides a great service to the visitors and advertisers, it is now making close to $20,000 per month…

Its not an article site, it is a niche classifieds site

who are you to tell people how they should promote there business?? 40% of traffic is now repeat users, everyone is happy.

You mean apart from the real human users of those forums and the moderators who have to go around cleaning up after you?

Well, actually, before you decided you knew it all, you asked for advice, remember? It’s up to you if you’ve chosen to ignore it.

Perhaps we should all take your excellent advice, start spamming forums in vast quantity and overloading the search engines with 1,000s of spurious links. How well do you think your technique will serve you then? For a start, I doubt if there would be any forums left to spam, as they’d be forced to close from the sheer weight of garbage. :frowning:

yep I understand but for a new and actually useful site not a made for adsense or scam site, it can be very hard to rank anywhere.

AdServe, I didn’t understand a word of the start of your post, so I’m going to move on.

People who are using these forums for help! People who moderate these forums, the businesses that own these forums, etc.

Maybe it’s because I currently work in the legal sector, but if I found a SEO spammer representing a company from within my country opening spamming my forums I would have no problem at all going directly to the management of that company and telling them to stop or face some form of legal action.

That’s good, but I fail to see how it is relevant.

I am a Mentor of these forums, and I can say with first-hand experience that if you spam these forums you’ll be found, your posts will be deleted and you will be banned. It’s a simple fact that any forum even remotely moderated will ban and delete spam.

It’s the equivalent of putting up flyers in public areas in the real world. Yes, you’re promoting something, but it’s a very ineffective way of promoting something and it’s illegal. You may still call it promotion, but the rest of the free-thinking world would call it stupid.

If you think that spamming a forum with your link is genuine promotion then I would highly suggest going back to school and learning something about business. The sheer effort of posting on a forum is not worth it unless you’re in it for the long haul, and if you’re running a SEO campaign you’re not.

You are doing wrong. It is not good from SEO perspective. Dont focus on quantity think about quality.

No… it can’t hurt you. Honestly Stevie, I know you posted this back in April but I read this and it makes me wonder if you’ve ever actually done any link building/buying? You’re the SEO ‘guru’ on this forum, I think it’s fair for me to ask you what your experience is, and I have repeatedly, without getting any answer. Is there a reason you’re avoiding answering?

If I can hurt myself with backlinks, then I can hurt a competitor, do you really think that’s likely or easy to do? The OP can not be hurting himself through backlinks and yet you’re telling him he can? Please can you explain your reasoning and back it up with any evidence you’ve gathered through your own experiences? I think that the quality of posting and knowledge in the SEO forum can only be improved by this.

Heh, I think you’d need to add about 9 zero’s to this number for it to be more realistic and it’s impossible for one person to have that kind of impact. Plus, he was talking about setting up profiles, not spamming posts.

in answer to the original question, I would have to say that it’s pretty well agreed upon now in the seo community that i read through that “blasting links out to non relevant sites” is certainly not going to help your site but likely harm it and it’s search engine results

  • the reason being rather simple or rather complex, as these search engines are now incredible intelligent/smart and are looking for and ranking/trying to rank the most relevant sites in the searches - a broad generalization that I think is true. we know that the engines take many factors into consideration and relevancy is one of the top ones, so I don’t see it’s just counterintuitive that google or bing would reward a site that’s being linked to from non-relevant sites, when the engine/algo is trying to determine and rank sites/pages for their quality, depth and relevancy.

you want your overall link profile or link graph to be as good and as natural and as relevant and as high quality as possible…get relevant links from relevant or quality site (and there are lots of good general directories/niche directories out there too, just to take one example, that have been around for 5-10+ years)or sites that are recognized in your niche as Authoritative.
heck if you want to be in the top 10-20-30, either get a link from one of the top ten sites for the keyword/s that you want, or link out to some of those top 10 sites on your page/s…

Ok, let’s test that. Tell me your site and I’ll go an blast a few crappy links at it and we’ll see if Google penalise you. I think that nothing at all will happen to your site otherwise I’d just go around using Xrumer to blast my competition right out of the SERP. I wouldn’t need to earn a ranking, I’d just sink everyone ele’s…

The Authority of the link matters much more than it used to. Reputation is everything these days. You’re saying that if had a site about Cod fishing and the White house decided to link to it then Google would ignore that link because it’s not relevant? No, it would trust my site even more because I have such a high Authority link.

hey,
Looks like you are spamming the search engine. You can be banned temporarily or permanently by the search engine.

So you saying I can get my competitors banned by spamming links to their site?

Plus, it can demote your ranking from google as well, so be very carefull when you place your links in non-relavent sites…

So I can put some links to my competitors on some non-relevant sites to get them demoted?

Note to mods: the parrots have arrived in this thread. Time to close it.

Well, Just trying to help mate… No need to get paranoid… If you place your link at ****** place then yes, your ranking may get down,

But, you are not helping. You just parroting nonsense.

O.k. if you think so then my apologies