Currently I deal with small to medium sized websites.
I have dealt with larger projects but by choice I decided not to target those customers, and therefore do not cater for them.
The most I will do is a website with a couple of pages of SSL and maybe a database (e.g. myphpadmin) behind it, hopefully powered by Drupal. I don’t really want to get into e-commerce.
I already have a hosting provider, I pay 30 pounds per year and been with them since 2005. I am not advertising them, but I get unlimited POP3 accounts, 500MB, and live support, so it’s not bad. They are able to host 5 domain names as well.
The trouble is I am looking for around for hosting packages and they all seam very expensive, some even quoting double what I paid for year for each month. I tried “The Planet” and another one which I think will work well for me is “Gandi”.
It’s a VPS not a VPN which is an entirely different thing. Yes, you would typically have multiple VPS on a dedicated server, though in far lower numbers than you might have shared hosting accounts on a server. They have more isolation between each server than on typical shared hosting accounts.
The application layer would be software controlling the allocation of resources and operating system virtualisation. That can in turn be administered by a control panel gui or an api.
The geographical location of the server is best situated closest to your main visitor market for best response, there’s a small decrease in responsiveness the further away you get, though in most cases you’d be unlikely to notice.
That’s really interesting, you can have lots of IP’s with it too. Makes you think if the IP’s are unique, and if not what other content is stored there. It does sound a bit cheap for unique IP’s though.
The main thing is that I do not want my clients to run away. One of my clients is already paying cost price for the domain and hosting, which is incredibly cheap. I should really be charging him triple what I am doing.
I put him on the cheap host and have him on a .com domain. At the moment I only have the one client, I cannot continue to charge this low. In terms of charging I have to find what is reasonable, and what people are prepared to give.
I had a look at cloud servers? Would this be a more expandable option.
That is probably one difference between a cheap host and a professional one. If you want good quality services for your customers sites then you really need to pay the going rate. As previously mentioned, paying $20-$30 for a reseller account from a reliable well known host is where you need to be heading.
I already have a hosting provider, I pay 30 pounds per year and been with them since 2005.
Well, that is quite low priced hosting, but I’m glad to hear it worked for you. As long as your needs are not too great, money can be saved that way.
If you want to start a business and host other people’s sites, you need some funding. $20-30 a month for a reseller hosting account should not be too serious of an effort.
I don’t think that a dedicated server is the way to go in the beginning, neither is a server hosted at home - especially when you’re not an experienced server administrator. A reseller account should do the job. I’d say that you can usually find good quality ones starting at ~$15/month or thereabouts.
Depends on your requirements, some people happily pay 600 a month per server.
Servers used by more expensive providers have many gigabytes of ECC memory, hot swap 15k raid drives that are engineered to a higher level than domestic equipment (hence more expensive) and are made to handle 24/7 activity. Redundant/how swappable power etc The network equipment and data centre infrastructure will be heavily redundant, have plenty spare capacity and be peered with multiple links to external internet backbones. Qualified, local and expert support staff cost vastly more than mediocre outsourced staff. It all costs money to do well.
Cheap hosting uses domestic quality components, and oversells resources cramming in 1000’s of sites on to a server. You generally get what you pay for. I gave up using cheap shared hosting years ago because the cost of what happens when cheap goes wrong always negates what you think you’ve saved.
What’s the deal of hosting providers charging like 600USD a year? I just don’t understand? I am a web designer, I like coding and designing things, but I am far better at coding. The trouble is I have little, if no clue on these networking, online things.
I have already done some research, and in hosting services they seem to be offering SSL, alongside with RAM usage and Processing power. Off topic here, I already own several computers which are more powerful than most servers, all equipments with Intel Xeon, I bought them as home machines though, and they work great. They work really well for 3D work too, but I use them as home computer’s because they are quite stable.
People here are really helpful, so hopefully I will settle my dilemma.
I pay $6/mo for shared hosting over at surpasshosting.com. I’ve found their offerings to be quite reasonable. Their reseller hosting is somewhere around $20-$30. They host both in the US and the UK.
Thanks, I actually know the guys who run one of the sites on a personal level, which is really coincidental.
So what if you clock lots of clients on one of these reseller accounts, would one then go dedicated, or simply buy another reseller account.
The benefits of going dedicated are really big, but the cost is quite high. I would never want to have these servers home, but instead use an ISP to host them, which is very common in my country.
Currently I deal with small to medium sized websites.
I suppose that VPS solution. The smallest one will be good idea and will work for your budget.
$20-30 is right budget for this kind of web hosting service.
The IPs are the same, it’s just the way the routing was handled for them. I normally hate palming people off on to WikiPedia, but it’ll do a lot better job of explaining it than I can on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address
That makes sense, back in the day of 486’s and Windows 95 I suppose class-based IP existed.
I know it’s pretty pointless now, but what are these ex-IP’s? Are they not real IP address’s? I know you can buy IP’s from ISP’s. They normally charge per IP.
I think I missed something. I got this from a website:
Class A Supports 16 million hosts on each of 127 networks.
Class B Supports 65,000 hosts on each of 16,000 networks.
Class C Supports 254 hosts on each of 2 million networks.
First I heard of this classification, just shows how much I know
I’m afraid that I do have affiliate links there. The companies for which affiliate links are used are revealed though, so the visitor can put a weight on the possibility of bias.
If you outgrow your reseller hosting account, you can always upgrade it, or if that’s not a possibility, you can buy a second one etc.
Once you have enough of them to warrant a consolidation to your own dedicated server, you can do that. It will be a bit of work to move the customers to the new server, but it’s not an impossible task, and you can even hire someone to do it for you.
If you do the upgrade when you can afford it, it should not impact your customers any (no price increase for them), and you may even end up saving money.
Forgive me, I am kind of new at this. VPN is a virtual private server. So gathering from the name it’s not a real server, but a virtual one. In other words one machine can hold more than one VPN. Correct me if I am wrong?
You’ve mentioned cloud hosting which is essentially VPS hosting with an additional application layer on top to manage resources across multiple instances.
Don’t shoot me if I have gone in the wrong direction, but this application layer, would it have anything to do with cPanel, or is that something completely different.
Is it also a problem if you host the site in the US or the UK and you are from an island on the Mediterranean?
Depends on your requirements, some people happily pay 600 a month per server.
It’s understandable that you get what you paid for, trouble is I cannot afford 400 USD per month.
I was thinking of maybe hosting the server’s at home. I already have the computer’s, with 15K rpm hard drives, and RAM like you would not imagine. I don’t know if this is worth it. I am fairly new at networking but I saw some applications that can help me.
I did some background research and many felt that this was more difficult because they had the responsibly, alongside with the added burden of continuously monitoring the hardware.
In the country I live we can give our computers to our ISP’s and they can put our server’s online, which might be another option of me. I am not really sure which direction to take this.
For you to give up on shared hosting, must either mean you have demanding websites, or many websites, would I be correct to assume this? I am a firm believer that you pay for what you get, I just don’t want to go down the road of offering trash to my clients, and then having to jack the price up a year or two later, which will inevitably cause them to leave and look for another web design company. It’s best to be consistent.
