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we have one news site from asia which has visitors all around the world…there are two dedicated server for it for now…one in US and one in own country…
any way to make things better ,the sites things it should use Content delivery network…
Site uses php mysql(need linux) and needs around 250gb of space…
so most of the CDN site dont tend to put prices in their site…why?
and how much will this requirement cost …?
or which can be cheapest and best CDN for it…?
thanks
Frank1 it seems you are failing to calculate things properly. it has been some time since this topic started. since then few things changed. Now we all know that major players are overcharging for their services simply because they have their names established and they have all the big clients. Good for them, but I doubt that I will choose Akamai to stream my audio files when I can find same service that does this ten times cheaper.
i analyzed some articles…and prices at some cdn provider…
think like we can hire dedicated server 20-30 country ourself for that cost…
for eg one was saying for 100mb space $300 per month…
that way for 250 gb with all bandwidth i fear it will reach million…
so expensive
I think it worth to think over ROI. If you do not have money for that - is it worth to start that at all?
I think that you need to stay on the dedicated server. In any case that is cheaper, you always have good choice (around the world). I’m pretty sure that will not be a problem for you at all to find new and better (faster) dedicated server.
The prices are difficult to list out. I have made a CDN Price List recently for my own purpose. The best thing is to check if there is any reseller for the particular CDN you are looking at. Resellers are way cheaper in a long run.
Also, make sure the CDN has enough POPs in your target area. For example, even if Highwinds are damn cheap, their performance in AsiaPac is considerably bad - means you will be wasting money if your visitors are from India.
So you need web application or web hosting solution for that? Or just all together.
we need service like akamai which wil handle all replication and which has server in different geo location…
akamai is i gues to expensive and customized…
i analyzed some articles…and prices at some cdn provider…
think like we can hire dedicated server 20-30 country ourself for that cost…
for eg one was saying for 100mb space $300 per month…
that way for 250 gb with all bandwidth i fear it will reach million…
so expensive
Hi,
SimpleCDN and CacheFly both have pricing on their site, both are fairly well respected, but aren’t in the same league as Akamai or Limelight.
Also, 30 servers in different locations doesn’t really compare to how a CDN functions.
Thanks,
i am not expert at hosting …
any way from what can i understand from reading main objective of cdn
“Basically it is a network of computers around the world that serves your content to the end user closest to one of those many servers around the world. This method of delivery cuts down on server overload, DNS hops, and delivery time.”
so ,if we have many server at different country …it may not be 100% cdn but something similar …and may be fulfill our objectives…and much cheaper than that…
any way what is normal cost of cdn…?
Hi,
You’d still be miles off of what a CDN does, it’s not so much about the hardware, but the networking and software behind it. To replicate what they do you’re going to have to know a lot about DNS and/or networking. You’re also going to have to be running your own network - Dedicated server providers aren’t going to do Anycast for you. As I say, there’s a lot more to it than meets the eye.
Thanks,
Amazon s3 cloudfront works well and is reasonably cheap (not quite as cheap as simplecdn though)
You call the file and the first time it loads it gets drawn from your s3 account, but is cached on the edge (geographically closest) server. The next load of the file comes directly from the edge server so is extremely quick, both latency and speed wise. Did a test recently to check the max speed where I downloaded a cached cloudfront file from various remote dedicated servers around the world and the speed is incredibly fast once cached. If the file isn’t accessed from any edge zone in 24 hours it needs to get pulled from s3 again, it’s only cached for that period.
i always see these kind of answer in the forum from some members 
any way …i am also not saying what i have said is all about cdn…but i am 100% confident that what i am saying is part of cdn…
this is not this…that is not that…
then what is cdn according to u…?
well it will fill the books but in brief what is cdn…
i guess it is not a rocket science…
i know if we go through cdn we may not need to know all those dsn and all…but being a little techie…we can handle that …and we are trying to access either we should outsource(cdn) or try to create of our own cdn alike which caters our needs…
we know our solution may not be fulfilling 100% cdn requirement but we know we are in its principles
CDN nodes are deployed in multiple locations, often over multiple backbones. These nodes cooperate with each other to satisfy requests for content by end users, transparently moving content to optimize the delivery process. Optimization can take the form of reducing bandwidth costs, improving end-user performance, or increasing global availability of content
Hi,
CDNs use a number of different techniques, as I mentioned, to make sure that users are sent to the correct server for their location, one of those techniques is Anycast, most often used on DNS Servers, but some like CacheFly use it for the HTTP as well.
To make use of Anycast you’re going to need to be running your own BGP network, with carefully selected providers - preferably the same 2 or 3 providers in each location (it’s a long story, but if you don’t, you’ll end up with lots of users ending up on the wrong side of the world potentially), along with local peerings.
If you’re just making use of Anycast for your DNS then you’re going to need some serious intelligence inside of your DNS system to work out which servers are the most suitable for a particular user - this will most likely include looking in to the BGP tables, as well as regularly testing latency to the prefixes in the table from each of your locations - then feeding that back in to all of your DNS nodes, so they know that given the users IP X, that server Y has the lowest latency connection to it.
On top of that, you’ll also want to include in the metrics used by the DNS system some semblance of server load - it’s no good sending a user to the server with the lowest latency if it’s got more load than it can handle.
Those are all things a CDN should do, and more on top.
At the end of the day, if using a CDN works out at the same monthly cost as just renting 30 servers - then the CDN is cheaper, as you’ve got less costs with the CDN, such as writing the software, administering it on a day to day basis. Also, with the servers, it’s not just the cost of renting the servers, you’re actually going to have to run your own network if you want to do it properly (even if it’s just for your DNS servers) and to the same level that you’d be paying someone for.
By all means, go the DIY route, but go in with your eyes open and don’t expect it to be cheaper than paying someone once you’ve factored your time in and all other costs, especially for such modest requirements.
Thanks,
thanks for more explaination…
i actuallly read most of it googling and still reading…
any way we think at most 5-6 server at diff geo location will do for most of the site…if we not microsoft or manchester united(akamai)…
so 5 dedicated server and some maintainance work seems to be cheaper than 400$ for 100mb per month…(off course all of the cdn may not be required…)
Hi,
I’m not sure where you’re getting this $400 for 100MB from, but neither of the CDNs I mentioned charge anything like that. CacheFly for example charge $299 for 1200GB transfer and 2GB storage and $15/GB for extra storage.
Thanks,
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i went to that site…from simple calculation i found it would cost around 4000 per month…which is much higher than we are paying for our dedicated servers…
more over the main thing was speed… manschester united site hosted by akamai cdn is super fast whereas we found cachefly is not that fast in asian parts…