I Ain't No One Career Man!

Have you ever wondered where your career would have led if you were looking at yourself in a parallel universe or if things had been slightly different in life.

Or, have you ever wondered and spared a moment of thought contemplating; while waiting for a train, bus or driving down the road. Watching the passersby, what some people do for a living or what their ambitions were, when they were younger.

Many people will only stick to one career type in their lifetime, for various reasons. Others aspire to have multiple careers or are forced by a chain of events to follow a certain path or end up somewhere completed different to what they expected in later life…

At the moment I’m following the family tradition of being an agricultural scientist, so most of my work history has been science and technology related from; Microbiology Labs to Self-employed and self-made Businessman and general dogsbody. But I have a varied job and obviously play with XHTML in spare time; I just adapt or open a window of opportunity when I feel the need to change direction.

When I was little kid, I think one of my aspirations was to be either a Lego model engineer, or a Mad Scientist - probably watching too many films and having an inquisitive mind… By the age or 10, I was already running my own business until I sold up to go to University. Though at the age of 16 I’d never have thought I’d be sitting here as SPF Staff training Mentors amongst other amazing things.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings; I’d like to know what some of your ‘dreams and ambitions’ or career choices were that led you to where you are now in life:[INDENT]Q. Are you satisfied with what you have in your current career, or how would you like to change and what do you like about your job?

Q. Was your current career choice in the ‘same field’ where you started off at, or and is it your ambition to branch out and discover other niches?

Q. What would be your ‘dream type of job’ if you weren’t stuck in your current pair of shoes or could change your past and do things again?

Q. Would you consider yourself a “one career (wo)man” or do you fall into the “I ain’t no one career (wo)man” category?
[/INDENT]Come on, don’t be shy, enlighten me, I don’t bite… :slight_smile:

I’m less of a business man and more of a dream man.

My tech “career” it’s happen by legacy also. My father is a retired math teacher, with a hardcore passion for electronics, that got bit by the computers bug around 1986-1987.

My mom tried to make that stick on me, electronics, under his wing. It didn’t stick. When computers come along my way through my father’s passion, this time, my mom was the one trying to make me stay away from them, but I, like a good son, embrace it harder. :lol:

At first I was the one helping him to type (those combos with colored keys for BASIC instruction), and get to profit some game time.

The wages app he was designing on a HC Z80 (HC - Wikipedia) didn’t quite appealed to me, but then he tried to build a tennis game, and it started to look attractive.

Afterwards, I had a decision to make: math or computer science. I chose computer science, because of math (at that time, the admission exam was all about math), and chose the University over the Polytechnic.

To this day, I am still enjoying both, but I like computer science better, over math.

For me it wasn’t a career move, it’s something I enjoy doing everyday. There are so many playing fields in computer science, I can honestly say if I was to change my career, it would be plenty to choose from… in computer science over and over again.

I was a teacher shortly, and it’s a wonderful thing to do.

And I am enjoying being a developer as much as being a teacher. Now I’m more of the first, but I do have a pupil and I enjoy teaching. I call this real teaching, w/o the burden of a inept curriculum a school may lay upon you.

To answer to your questions: I am satisfied having a computer science career, and I enjoy exploring its many different branches and niches.

My dream job would be to start a business of my own, but in the same field of computer science, developing or teaching.

Right now, beside developing, private school is one thing that looks to be a viable career choice to me, if I was to broaden my options.

I do believe I am able to start all over in some other field if I would have too, but I rather not. :slight_smile:

I started in programming for the web that followed my hobby of programming in general. Although I can hardly define what my “career” is now (web entrepreneur(?), though I’m hardly an entrepreneur) it is still the same field as it involves creating websites.

Can’t imagine a better dream job than I’m doing now.

The definition of a career is vague to me. I’m just doing what I like doing. With experience and as I grow as a person, what I like doing also changes. So depending on how you define a career, it may seem like I keep changing careers almost every year, when in fact it’s all an extension of what once was just a hobby.

Yes and No. I like my job(s) but I would love to be able to dedicate time to concentrate on one or two of them. I’m exhausted! :lol:

I guess that it is right now. I’ve done loads of administrative work but at the same time I’ve always managed to be involved with computers. Yet, I have natural curiosity so opening myself to other niches is something that I may do in the future… who knows?

My dream job would be no job at all. That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t work but that I would be free to experiment and learn as I please.

I’m the second: ain’t no one career woman! Surviving does this to you.

When was younger I wanted to be an animator, you know back in the days when Disney ruled with 2d animation. I though that stuff was so cool growing up. Than I hit Highschool and got into drafting and art but ultimately took the art route. From there I went onto college to get a degree in graphic design starting off in illustration initially. While I was in school got more and more into the web side of things. In my Junior year took a design internship which ultimately turned into a full time front-end development job while going to school. While I was there I got more and more into the programming side of things.

Now fast forward two years later and I’m still in web development and enjoy it just about everyday, except when dealing with idiots but you get that in all jobs. Web development doesn’t pay to bad and I enjoy it. I can’t see doing anything else at this time that isn’t semi-related. Perhaps maybe on day go back to school to get a computer science degree but I haven’t seen the lack of one really hold me back considering these days I am more a programmer than anything. Who knows what the future holds. I though I was young though twenty-five.

Like I tell people who ask me the “dream job” question I really don’t have one. Back when I was in school I had several firms I would like to work for like Landor (yeah right) but as web developer I just want to work some place with good, passionate people and a little more than what I am making now would be good (isn’t it always?). Though not really a dream job I would like to eventually travel over the world and take some contract jobs. Just to see the world, I think it would be really cool and different experience to say work in some place like Germany one year, than Japan, etc. I think the worst thing to do is stay at one place to long. If you stay at one place to long you just learn one way to do things. learning is all about having new experiences so I think in many ways it would be my dream to least have flexibility to move around without offending anyone.

If anything these days I have a pretty good job so now I’m working on my life outside of work. If my job was going as good as my social life I would be on street,lol.

site note though: the show scrubs had me pondering how cool it would be to be a doctor,lol.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings; I’d like to know what some of your ‘dreams and ambitions’ or career choices were that led you to where you are now in life:

I got where I am today because I drew on some beer coasters in a bar. True story.

Q. Are you satisfied with what you have in your current career, or how would you like to change and what do you like about your job?

Hm, I guess not. I’m being paid minimum wage; I don’t have any front-end colleagues with which I can discuss code/ideas/problems/solutions (only you guys, lawlz); my code goes from my end to the online server without maintaining its integrity (though it’s way better than a year or two ago… back then I had a different word for what happened to my code. Let’s say that word rhymes with “cape”); even when there’s a design and front-end code I’m proud of, the bosses are such freaking Google sycophants that they regularly pervert the content into something rather unreadable “for teh googlez”, which kinda breaks any usability in the pages; and often they are spending so much time signing up our sites to “social networking” places (good god they made accounts on LinkedIn… WHY??? They’re not looking for employees, they’re looking for customers! Arg) that trying to get any content from them is worse than pulling teeth from an angry pitbull. Also, learning other things is mostly on my own time, and I’d like to be learning more stuff (esp Javascript) on the job. I’d love to be able to do actual user testing on our sites, but that will never, ever happen. Instead, it’ll be trial-and-error like now: people calling because something was confusing, and knowing that for every one who calls, there are a bunch of others who didn’t bother calling and just went to someone else’s site.

I’m unmotivated and bored, and regularly consider getting a job cleaning toilets in offices or something (what’s holding me back? Most uitzendbureaus with those sorts of jobs want me to have a car… and I don’t even have a license!). Also, when I look around at places I might want to work, I see the same sh*tty code in the front end that I see everywhere else a lot of the time, because they too are using some kind of template/CMS… which is something I kinda more expect from people’s nephews rather than Internet Bureaus. So I feel like I must be wasting my time being all picky about semantic, lean, valid and accessible code: people are getting paid way more than I just plugging in some Drupal module and adding a few more “block clear-block clear-clear block-block-block” classes to everything.
And while maybe I could increase the quality of some other employer, they’re really not looking for someone like me… not unless I get off my butt and learn XSLT, jQuery (not Javascript… jQuery), PHP, C#, .NET, Flash/ActionScript3, and maybe some mobile stuff like Java and Objective C. Lawlz, and what’s funny is I’d love to learn Perl. Which is just not a popular language with Internet Bureaus.

On the other hand, I could just spend all day scrolling through icanhazcheeseburger.com and get paid my minimum wage if I wanted to. Or just not show up at all. I’m not sure they’d notice. I have a mortgage though so I guess I keep going.
Or I could see if I end up working somewhere where people care about code.

Q. Was your current career choice in the ‘same field’ where you started off at, or and is it your ambition to branch out and discover other niches?

As a teenager, I wanted to be a paleontologist (how I met my husband). Dinosaurs are cool, science is cool, even scraping away little grains of sand with a dental pick in the hot sun for hours on end is cool (yeah that’s what they do, none of this crazy Indiana Jones stuff). That kinda died when I realised I’d have to be rich enough to get into some University where they had stuff like Geology courses.

So I became a radiologic technologist (the person who actually takes the X-rays/does the CAT scans, and yes, it will always be CAT for me… don’t let their new terminology fool you, those images are still “assisted” and “axial”!) and did that for a few years. I enjoyed it, and I was fast, but there was lots of bad management (seems endemic) plus while I get along fine with colleagues and x-ray machines, I guess I’m just too weird for patients… I freaked them out and I got kicked out. Arg, I need to stay away from anything customer-service-ish. I’m not good at reading what people expect (ever been in a hospital? Everything that pissed you off about the nurses and other staff, someone else was equally pissed about exactly the opposite).

Anyway later I wandered into web development. I almost started school for electrician, but at the last minute my current employer offered me a year-contract (4 years now). Not sure what I’ll do next. Like I said, maybe toilet cleaner.

Q. What would be your ‘dream type of job’ if you weren’t stuck in your current pair of shoes or could change your past and do things again?

I dunno if I have a dream job. I would want to be doing something I’m good at, with as little BS in the management as possible, and no 80-hour workweeks (unless it was that fun).
I’ve considered joining an orchestra and playing the horn (I’d have to get back to my old level, and then some)… or becoming an electrician (though here in the Netherlands, there’s a lot of sex segregation… not legally, but all the women do stupid boring female jobs and all the men do cool awesome jobs for some reason), or maybe programmer (if I have any ability there). Meteorologist? I used to love weather science. I suppose if I had known earlier in my life that I’d like to be a paleontologist, I would have worked harder at school so that I would maybe have good enough grades etc to get a scholarship… but that realisation came too late and I was a mostly lazy and uninspired student (I passed by acing the tests, but I rarely did the homework).

Q. Would you consider yourself a “one career (wo)man” or do you fall into the “I ain’t no one career (wo)man” category?

I have one career: earning crappy wages doing menial things and wondering if it’s because I suck.

Let me put it this way: I’m satisfied with how my life is at the moment - and it will only get better :slight_smile:

haha no - i started up building roads and stuff like that, driving huge vehickles, excavators, motor graders, dumpers, drilling rigs etc - used all kind of explosives to blow up stuff haha that was fun - and i still make explosives at home for fun :stuck_out_tongue:

…but after a while in a total different type of job, my computer hobby developed into what it is today - a lifestyle :smiley:

  • my ambitions is to always expand my horizon

I don’t know if it could get much better than it is now as I’m mostly doing the things i enjoy doing, maybe if i could stay more at home during the winter - but i will get there too.

I agree with Saul here, as the definition of a career is vague to me too. What i can say is that I do the things i like, and it all boils down to an extension of what i do and who i am :wink:

Dear poes, you should be careful what you wish for.

I admit, I watch “The Good Wife”. So what?

In the latest episode, there was a trial about a big company for developers where three employees committed suicide because of the pressures put on them at work. The hidden reason was their CEOs have looted some money. Their tactics was to make personal cuts to cover the loses.

But they wanted their workers to go on their own will, so they would not have to sack them and give them benefits. Another way of saving money to cover their stealing.

Now, this is fiction. I have a true story though. In Romania, a few years back, a female, not married, died from work exhaustion. Her boss said, being single, she was pushed more. But that the company never asked for this kind of commitment. Right!

Nonetheless, you could be working in a more stressful environment, be doing what you don’t like and don’t get the chance of improving your self. Things are better than you see them. And it’ll be better.

There is a saying: For things to be good, they first need to be bad. I believe you’re past bad times and going up to the good staff. Just pray you’ll be healthy enough to enjoy it. :slight_smile:

PS You don’t suck.

I too have done this. But strategy wasn’t my thing. I played mostly FPSs. Hexen II is my all times favorite. :rofl:

You know, for this type of confession, people get their doors kicked down, in the 1AM-4AM hours, by gents with black caps. Men of few words they are, if you get my point. :rofl:

Nonetheless, you could be working in a more stressful environment, be doing what you don’t like and don’t get the chance of improving your self. Things are better than you see them.

Things could certainly be worse. I could be entirely unemployed. And because I’ve never worked under any kind of deadline over here, I don’t know how I’d handle one elsewhere. Maybe I just have the time to be nitpicky about my code.

From my experience it’s a dangerous thing that never ends well. You end up doing nothing productive at all - playing games, wasting time browsing the Internet, watching TV all day long, etc. You need a job and commitment that would drive you to learn and experiment. Or you need a very strong self-discipline that would naturally evolve into a job one way or another.

You’re just tired and need a vacation. After that you’ll be running back to work on all fours.

I am glad you are all having fun and I’ve just got back from a busy day mainly away from the web so I’ll have a look…

Μitică, your father was a Maths Teacher (the word Math is an Americanism) but thought that gaming was a more suitable pursuit for programming. Obviously you enjoy your pursuit and would still love to pass on your ICT knowledge but feel you made the right choice because things are always changing.

Saul, I see you obviously embraced the web and enjoyed the development of your hobby into a flourishing lifestyle and seem to be quite happy creating new websites and the challenges it brings.

Nuria, you’ll have to take a rest from being cool you don’t want to burden yourself too much. Though obviously you want to find something that will interest your passion for learning but at the moment you seem to be doing things to survive and develop.

Oddz, it seems you have started off studying with art and then converted to online multimedia design. Obviously you have considered travel to embrace the differences in culture and somehow tie that in with work.

Poes, beer coasters are for beer - but if you want you can always draw crazy cats on them nobody will think it’s strange. :wink:

So at the moment you think you are one of the downtrodden, undervalued slaves to the boss that cannot see past their own noses, which is probably true.

I suppose that is one perk although it shouldn’t have been that way. So you were a cool radiologist but the patients didn’t have much humour. You seem to be ‘stuck between the devil and the deep-blue’ sea at the moment. Though obviously in the parallel universe you are happily looking for where “X” marks the spot.

Ken, I see you are Crazy like your title says…

What was some of the best things you have blown up?

Anyway, it nice to see you are fitting building website around your hobbies from roads to constructing pages.

Anyway, there has been some in-depth discussion so far and its’ always nice to learn how people have been shaped by events and how their careers have shaped them. :slight_smile:

That’s the ticket right there. I’ve not worked too and that is a very depressing existence. So as you say… to do something “you” want to at your leasure… oh that will be the day. I often use this example when asked - anything done all day everyday sucks after awhile. Your job could be to have relations with the prettiest person on earth. But if it was all day everyday, and you had to do it, it would become dreadful in no time. I bust my ass to get to that day when I don’t have to work. Once reached, I will continue to work but on my schedule. But, as they say, “it’s not the destination but the journey”. I tell myself that everyday - it doesnt work yet.

Q. Are you satisfied with what you have in your current career, or how would you like to change and what do you like about your job?

I’d like things to evolve further. I need to change some people and influences in my life in order to do this, as well as spend more time on the internet, if that’s humanly possible. I am not too satisfied with the way things are going, but I am only just starting out, and optimism is what I have to hold onto.

Q. Was your current career choice in the ‘same field’ where you started off at, or and is it your ambition to branch out and discover other niches?

I never really knew what I wanted to do, or where I was going to go. I simply did what I enjoyed and ended up where I am. From IT to Web, then later to Animation, it was all really strange. I went back to the web because it has more opportunity, this is not to say I don’t miss animating, because I do.

Q. What would be your ‘dream type of job’ if you weren’t stuck in your current pair of shoes or could change your past and do things again?

Managing Director of my own company earning a good living.

Q. Would you consider yourself a “one career (wo)man” or do you fall into the “I ain’t no one career (wo)man” category?

This field we are in is a bit of a branched out field. We cannot consider ourselves as one topic people, we have to understand, and at times get our hands dirty in other fields. This will help us understand more and allow us to talk with confidence to the clients. It’s all about being able to present yourselves in-front of the customer. Simply being a designer or a coder will not do you justice when they ask how SEO works, which they certainly will.

No, radiologists are doctors. Radiographers work the machines to take the images (diagnostic imaging).

So Eric the ride seems to be the thrill at the moment depending upon how you want to look at the situation. Like most people they tend to alter their opinions on life and career and don’t want to be tied to the millstone. Variety and being in control of your destiny seems a popular aspiration.

Sega, you are obviously trying to cut a new path in life or at least trying into interface more with the web. Like most people they tend to flux between roles or likes and careers and it’s usually nice if you can follow something you enjoy. Though like you mentioned you have to adapt to survive in the changing climate.

Hmm. Well, you were a Radiographer that liked using your waves and pricey complex tools so that’s cool too.

Anyway, regarding the beer mats I’d possibly do the same myself if I had a pencil so it’s not that unusual really either that or people are just boring. :slight_smile:

Choosing a career requires a lot of decision-making and analysis. Think about quantitative and qualitative factors. You might choose Job A instead of Job B, because Job A makes you more money. Think about the benefits that you can get at different jobs. You might be able to get some valuable things for free. Think about the role that you want to play. Good luck!

Obviously you didn’t read the post fully; as that wasn’t the question posed. Nobody was asking about getting a new job. We weren’t relating to a text book either regarding ‘market research’.

Now, if it were a discussion regarding; ‘love’ verses ‘money’, which it wasn’t that would be a fair assumption. :slight_smile:

To be honest, I’ve always done what makes me content, I won’t work in a job I don’t like, being happy is what’s important to me, so yes I am satisfied right now with my current career path. The only thing I would like to change is the speed at which I can learn things, I wanna know everything…yesterday! :smiley:

I’ve always been I.T. based - it’s what I enjoy and what I’m good at and there’s so much versatility in this field that you can branch off into different niches whenever you want, which is good because I tend to get bored easily! (:

Well I’m stuck in the pair of shoes I wanna be really stuck in so to speak. I’m doing web development and I’m happy doing that - I guess we’d all love to win millions and never have to work but I think I’d still dabble in web development anyways as my hobby is my job, that’s how I view it and I guess why it works well for me! :slight_smile:

Yes I fall into the latter - A jill of all trades here, from IT to construction :lol: but yeah, I think its a good idea to be versatile and have a “swiss-army knife” set of skills to call upon from time to time. You should never limit yourself in anything that makes you a better person, knowledge is power, grab it with both hands and run, run run! :smiley:

SEO was basically something I got into after being laid-off years ago. I have no real regrets about switching to it. My dream is to be able to just keep honing my skills in inbound internet marketing and not have to think about career changes.