Philosophy isn’t a science, it’s an excuse to theorise and contemplate existence without supporting evidence, it;s much in the way of fantasy in that it’s all about the “what if” rather than the “study supports”, most people with a degree in the subject don’t end up as scientists, well not from what I’ve heard
haha, I grant you that most hodgepodge philosophies are not science, and especially the way this science is taught in the universities today by professors who have no idea what they are saying.
But philosophy in the true sense is, for it studies the nature of existents, human nature and the consequences of actions. Actions are life, in order to act properly in accordance with your nature as a human, you have to base your choices on a philosophy. A human needs to have at least some knowledge of metaphysics, epistemology, ethics and derivatives to have a base for his morals and his politics. Most people do not adhere to one particular philosophy and probably claim that they do not have a philosophy, not realizing that all decisions in their lives hinge on their philosophical outlook, mostly chosen on a whim rather than thought.
[FONT=“Georgia”]There are types of philosophies though. There are ones with a scientific approach and logic in their thinking. Luckily, I’d say, the first brand of philosophy I was exposed to was along that line; If I was instead exposed to the “Nothing exists!” brand, I’d have had a forever tainted impression of all philosophies.
But I’m sorry though, I won’t call psychology science.
Yes, you’re right, conditions affect gravity. Those are predictable conditions, and measurable conditions. And all matter of a given type is likely to respond in a similar way to those conditions.
But would you say all humans of a given type will respond the same way to things? All white men are the same? All black men are the same? All rich men are the same? All poor men are the same?
Of course not.
I have two apples, and for the most part this one apple is the same as that other apple.
But would you say the same of two humans? Is Saul’ the same as Molona? No. Saul’ is Saul’. And Molona is Molona.
Saul’ would react one way to a situation. Molona will react a different way. And hell, Saul’ today may react far differently to Saul’ a minute from now, or years from now.
We can objectify Saul’ himself. Or Molona herself. And study Saul’ as a Saul’.
But we can’t objectify a human as any ole human, and say human over here is the same as human over there so let’s study them as a “science” of humanity.
I’d call that a sociology; So psychology is a brand of sociology in my view. And no, I don’t call sociology “science” either. Even if they borrow scientific techniques to do their work, I consider it a distinct field.
And again, none of this means I consider psychology or sociology invalid.
I don’t consider apple-picking invalid. But is apple-picking an “art” ?
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[FONT=“Georgia”]So… Charlie and the Narrator.
I think the narrator is quick to explain away Charlie’s “victory” over the experiment (a personal bias?).
First of all, I don’t agree that Charlie didn’t conform because he was a leader. I think it’s the other way around; That he was suited for leadership because he trusts his own judgement.
And secondly, the narrator is quick to suggest that he did well mostly because of his “comfort zone” on the table.
Both of those assumptions have the bias that people only are who they are because of the roles they happen to be playing at the time. I disagree. What do you think?
Does, for example, a role of power corrupt?
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Sorry shaun but based on what you’ve typed I think you entirely have the wrong idea about psychology and what it is. Psychology isn’t about grouping people or making snap judgements about how they behave. It’s entirely about measuring peoples behaviour and trying to work out why they act in certain ways. People express themselves in similar ways, if someone is suicidal it’s usually because of factors in their life which has caused them to become depressed, people don’t kill themselves on the basis that their happy. While conditions to affect people’s reasons for acting or feeling a certain way it’s the purpose of psychology to uncover the links and try and connect the dots so it can be interpreted based on their situation. Using examples like “all white men are the same” has nothing to-do with psychology. No psychologist in history has claimed that one single factor (like skin color) will force you to behave in a certain way. Psychology shows us that given certain conditions or situations (including stuff like genetics) we are naturally more disposed to acting in a certain way at certain times, that doesn’t mean you WILL do something if you are a certain type of person, it just means that it’s simply one way you may choose to express yourself. Much of psychology is about the science of cognitive processes based upon biology, it’s not some kind of hocus pocus magic act which people look for trends in society and then start marking labels on people. No two humans are the same and psychology backs that up, but what it does try to do is understand the science of why people react in certain ways, what the underlying causes are of certain responses and basically how to help people whom suffer from genuine medical conditions which affect their ability to think or feel (naturally). Your entire perspective is heavily skewed, has no basis in what psychology actually studies and is a bit of a straw-man argument
Cool experiments. Man I used to get kicked out of class all the time for questioning things. Even if I was extremely proper about it. Still managed to graduate with a 3.9 though
The creator of each thread makes the roules of the thread and majority of posters comply with them…is it conformity ?
[FONT=“Georgia”]No, it’s discussion.
You replied to my thread because you had something you wanted to share, not because I told you to.
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Okay, tell me what to do Will I conform ?
I think it is. But we conform rationally because we want to have a healthy discussion. Meanwhile, the experiments are of irrational and/or subliminal conformity.
So, there is a rational conformity and a irrational conformity…there are conformist people and nonconformist people and the nonconformists win…always…Be different !