The best CMS for community driven sites?

You could hear us rant and rave about our preferences. But that’s only 10% of the whole picture. To really know what’s best for YOU, you got to test them yourself.

I would recommend trying Mambo then Xoops before phpwebsite. But after doing your own investigation, you might prefer Xoops.

Don’t forget Drupal though - http://drupal.org.

Yes… i agree with marcel.

Personally, when comparing phpwebsite with XOOPS i believe xoops is definitely better, but i admit that i haven’t tried phpwebsite so i am just judging from what i saw on their site.

Thanks
Daniel

if you say ok to vbulletin then vbadvance is the best

I have been using xoops for some days. Yeah, its true that it was nice. Things can be done very easily, i tried the demo site of mamboo, mamboo was also good but some how i felt that its not very flexible. Can anyone suggest some good modules in xoops. and which is the best blog module for xoops.

thanks a lot for all ur suggestions.

Manoj

Manoj… i sent you an e-mail…

weblog module (for xoops) still seems the best, but it’s no longer in development. I was trying to find someone to continue it’s development with no luck so far.

If you need good personal blog modules (not multiuser) than wordpress and popnup modules are great. You can also use news module as a blog module because it basically has all you need…

Here is the link to xoops blog modules from the [url=http://www.xoops.org/modules/repository/]module repository

Thanks
Daniel

those portals which have mods looks better

http://www.movabletype.org/features.shtml

Did u guys come across this one

the best way probably would be downloading a forum and installing mods.

use one of the free boards and install mods.

Hello Matt (mengland),

Any luck in what you looked for?

In short: no.

(Thanks for checking up on this; I’m glad that you the other member that sent me a private msg on this matter are actually taking the time to read these–or at least my–posts this well. :slight_smile: )

While there are many CMSes that technically have this capability, I have yet to find one that integrates with a forum (namely phpBB) without having to modify said forum software/database significantly…or simply be a proprietary forum flavor. To be clear: I want to build a phpBB forum set and decide at any time to “link” forum topics with CMS articles (in each direction) at any time, while still being able to operate both the CMS and the forum independently (save for the article-and-forum-topic cross-links) if need be (say I like one CMS flavor one day and a different one then next…of different ones for different sites/applications/topics).

There are some that come close, namely Mambo’s phpBB forum integration. However, Mambo still requires a ton of MODs to a phpBB database/software set such that said phpBB forum can no longer accept a lot of the other, non-Mambo MODs that I require (and I’m not sure the resulting phpBB forum can still live on its own, either…but if any of them can, I’d like at Mambo’s setup first).

There seems to be a big fascination with single-user-signon in the CMS-to-forum development-integration world. While this is helpful, in most of my smaller communities (which tend to be development-related), I suspect it’s not such a big deal. In any case, I have yet to find any significant CMS or forum application that does not have some sort of LDAP tie-in for which I can probably solve the single-signon problem anyway. My point being: CMS-to-forum integrators seem to be so obsessed with single-signon features and miss the point I’m trying to solve, and that is link content with discussions (in essence, structured content with unstructured content).

One of my key forum-MOD objectives is to run every one of my forums with seamless email-list “synchronization,” as per what http://mail2forum.com/ (aka M2F) provides. However, M2F 1.0 currently requires native phpBB software set, and not a heavily-modified one (like Mambo’s or many of the other phpBB derivatives/copycats for CMSes). An aside: I really do not understand how forum admins and email-list admins can live with so many communities that suffer because email lists do not have forum-archive capability and forums do not have email-interaction capability. I find myself truly stunned by this deficiency in the state-of-the-art in open-source software. This capability is a staple of even things like yahoogroups.com, but yet when I went to the vBulletin folks and begged for them to insert this functionality, they dismissed me rather quickly (and imho, rather rudely–I tried to press on and then I think I aggravated them in the process, so I gave up).

But back to my main point: I still have not found what I’m looking for.

I’m hoping that phpBB 2.2, and its supposed API development, can allow for better and cleaner MODification (for both CMSes and for things like M2F) so that module/add-on integration can be much easier and less interdependent.

Having said all that…it’s been about 6-8 months since I tried to scope most of this out…and I also may not have been privy to all the best info then, either…so if anyone wants to dispute and/or add on to any of the information/assertions above, I invite them to contribute to this topic-thread. I am always interested in learning more. :slight_smile:

-Matt

ps: I want to do the same thing (linking discussions with content objects/articles in an “independent,” modular fashion) in the context of Wiki’s (and the Wiki entries) as well. In fact, I think there are so many powerful applications of linking discussions (or other, non-structured content/data/info) with some sort of structured content that (like CMS articles or Wiki entries–that hopefully establish some sort of structure over time, or at least have the capability to achieve structure)…or even linking any content with a discussion…that I think a general model/API for linking content with discussions should really evolve from the primitive organisms that we are using now so that we can basically link any discussion (be it “instantiated” in the form of an email, web forum, newsgroup, etc) with any content object (be it a book, CMS article, Wiki entry, etc). I would think this would be quite powerful. Heck, just the ability to link the discussions together across multiple “interfaces” (web forum, newsgroup, email, etc) would be extremely powerful in and of itself.

Sure, many can argue that their software already does this. But does it allow one to pick and choose which software they use for each module? Can I choose any forum software to go with any mailing list software to go with any CMS to go with any Wiki…and then tie it all into the same site/system with few integration headaches? I highly doubt it. Right now, a site admin is forced to get all those things together only with proprietary integrations; they (the site admin) can not choose each application to serve each different purpose. If they could, they could then possibly choose what they think would be the “best of breed” for that purpose (be it email list, CMS, Wiki, web forum, etc) and not have to be saddled with the limitations of the “proprietarily-integrated” modules/application.

Maybe one day we will be able to make this choice. Until then, we seem to be pretty far away from this capability.

Cute News Fork is really worken well for me. I would just intergrade the forum and the cms with eachtother. That what I do with my sites…

Postnuke has phpbb integrated module called pnphpbb

Does it have to be PHP based?

The biggest, best example of Drupal that I know of is Ecademy

Personally, having used just about every cms multiple times, I like tikiwiki and phpwebsite. :aparty:

wrt Drupal:

I am using Drupal for my internal-blogging site for multiple authors and groups. It’s my experience that Drupal is strong in the blogging area, and provides much better “corporate”/multi-user blogging capability then MT, WP, WPMU, Nucleus, and b2evo.

Drupal has other CMS capabilities, but I have yet to use them. I will looking to check out Mambo first for these things.

-Matt

I’m moving away from phpBB and mx-system, and have already put up one Drupal site, part of one of my sites here:
http://www.onpointtactical.com/
and it’s info site (drupal): http://www.onpointtactical.com/info/

For Drupal, the multi-user blogging is nice, and it is very feature rich for handling permissions of multiple users, RSS feeds, and different types of content. So far, my beefs with Drupal are: no clear weblinking system (i create a yahoo-like directory of web links). As far as I can tell, the weblinks module is being re-written with some other directory module (not yet released). The online documentation doesn’t really explain this well and I had to go into IRC and ask.

The reason I started to consider Drupal was what I have seen on SpreadFirefox: http://www.spreadfirefox.com . It looked nice, and I like having feeds off of certain information.

Overall, I think forums are nice but blogs are the wave of the future. More often than not, I see forum posts on my other websites that are little more than people venting. These posts mix up with other meaningful informational posts. Having a better blog system for this would help. Then have a smaller forum/discussion area for things that are truely topics for discussion.

I’m developing a new web site with drupal and i pretty much love it so far. When i first started (and that’s when this thread got born) drupal seemed a bit too hard to grasp, but now i feel quite comfortable with it and besides that, it seems to have evolved through the year quite well. I would still say that it’s not the best choice for those wanting a forum based site with all the bells and whistles modern forums such as phpbb usually have, but for a blog site, magazine, news or content site of any kind it is excellent.

I saw some people complaining about core drupal install not being feature rich enough missing some things many consider a “must have”, but i find that fact as being an advantage of drupal. It is very minimal to start with thus giving you an edge on shaping your web to be exactly how you want it to. Every little bit of extra functionality requires a new module, but modules are easy to install and that makes customizing drupal to have all that you really need and no extra bloat a straightforward and great job.

Thanks
Daniel

i have used phpwebsite a lot, but after reviewing drupal and talking to my developer it looks like drupal has lots of flexibilty… if you know php and want to expand a lot drupal is the way to go. mambo is mainly for user who want ready product and also good for corporate sites.

So, have you (or someone else) tried doing this yet? Sounds interesting.

hi, im new here,names Gareth aka VALLEYSBOY to most that now meor …VB… for short :slight_smile: i have at most done simple webs sites that have a separate forum linked to it,i run WOSEC a online racing community and its time i joined the forum to web site,hence the thought on cms,i was well impressed with all the comments here i have so far setup a xoops site and mx. my cms site will be forum lead mainly, im reallt glad i found this site as it has answered no end of questions that were running around in my simple brain:), Thanks to all"i dont now you all" but you sure got me on the right road :slight_smile: …VB…