Suing Google AdSense (Rock and a Hard Place): Your Thoughts

I have been using Google AdSense since about 2004.

Back in 2006, or was it 2007, one of my accounts, which no longer exists, got a temporary ban because my Google Ads looked to much like my daily media updates. Therefore encouraging clicks and all that stuff. I contacted Google AdSense then, they were extremely helpful, and then, after review, saw that I fixed the issue and re-instated my account.

But, now it’s 2010. The account I’ve had since 2004 began having a stellar year during the middle of summer (mid July). My Skyscraper ad spot was getting what I considered an insanely high CTR of about 2%. While some wouldn’t consider that too high, I have to point out that I get about 10-15 million page impressions per month. So high. My only reasoning was that my Skyscraper ad was right beside a bar where we had featured updates; so this spot/area obviously received tons of attention. And, considering that Google AdSense had become exceptionally good at placing relevant banner ads, sometimes the skyscraper ad (which has a header calling it an AD) would almost look like a feature to the layman.

So, anyway. My first sign of trouble came in two forms. First, I had a number of publishers warn me that “Google Has Become Evil.” Going against their mantra, they seemed to be suspending/banning sites only after revenues had been built up and accrued. I didn’t think anything of it, as I’ve been running the google tags in this spot since January 2008 and never had an issue.

but then I noticed a little over $2,000 withhold one month from the payment. I first thought it odd, especially since i’m hearing all this bad press about Google AdSense, but figured I’d wait to see how the next month did. Month closed out great and payment got approved. But it never came. A passed the halfway marker in September (the 16th or 17th), when I finally got the email from Google Saying they are disabling my account.

THE REASON? They didn’t give one, as they don’t have to give one. They likely decided that they hate the name Ryan, and used that as reason to not pay. To be honest, I thought the payment hold up was only because I updated my bank info.

HOW MUCH THEY OWE ME? Somewhere around $28,000.

To google, this is nothing, but to me this is a lot and something worth fighting for. I gave Google AdSense millions of impressions, and now it’s gone to waste. What worries me most is I gave up impressions to my higher tiers (Google AdSense is usually my bottom default) in order to get the skyscaper google adsense code higher. I’ve also theorized that Google might have suspected something fraudulent just based on how the impressions changed greatly every day, depending on how high on the tiers I place their ad code (sometimes on top). I obviously placed them higher when the ad codes proved to be bringing in more than advertisers above them. My real loss is probably about $10-$12K I would have made from other ad networks if I had NOT moved Google AdSense higher on the tiers.

Google, doing what they do, has followed the rule of reckless abandonment. They rejected my appeal, again without reason, and I am now unable to contact anybody at Google AdSense. I’m even trying to request legal information, like their legal department, but to no avail.

So, I’ve discussed this with a couple lawyers and the feedback has been crazy. Small Claims for quick resolution, but only up to $7500. But I have two other guys chomping at the bit for this. One wants to see just how far Google AdSense has gone with their actions while the other just wants to sue for the whole amount.

But sue google? Sounds kind of nuts to me, since I still am happy with the traffic I receive from Google Search and am not looking to entice any sort of penalty there, even in the form of a payback. And I’ve absolutely adored Google since the time I started using them over half a decade ago.

Since Google refuses to give reason for account deactivation, i’ve come up with four theories:

  1. My ad header. It doesn’t just say “Advertisement”, but “Sponsors Like Videos!” Not to encourage clicks, but keep energy high on site.

  2. My ad location. My Skyscraper is right to the right of a section that holds popular/featured videos. People do look there, and right next to that is the Google Ad. Google ran movie banners that looked so good that I have to assume they encouraged increased CTR. It’s completely normal spot partially above the fold or above the fold (depending on resolution), but close to content.

  3. Google has gone CPA. Google is looking into sales after clicks, and perhaps my traffic doesn’t buy as well as it should. I’ve done CPA campaigns before and, besides some good hits here and htere, I haven’t had much success. Google decided my clicks didn’t result in the traffic they wanted.

  4. My fluctuating impressions, and therefore ad delivery, looked shady. When they are being defaulted to they were being framed/defaulted by ad networks such as Tribal. Sometimes I’d just place them static. I’d change this around daily depending on how good my other ad networks were doing.

  5. And a bonus theory. Since I have about 7 ad networks on my chain, every once in a while I’ll see a good banner ad and click it to see who was delivering it. I’m talking about once a month. So does 12 clicks from me a year qualify as fraud when the spots were getting about 1000+ clicks per day?

I honestly don’t want to get aggressive with Google AdSense, all I need is an explanation. But they refuse to waste their time on me, especially since it seems to favor them in the sum of ~$28,000. Anybody ever get a resonse from them? I have a direct contact, who even helped me optimize my account with special Google AdSense ad tags for high traffic sites, and she’s gone off the grid too.

So, is $28K worth fighting for? Fighting Google AdSense for?

Seeking opinions, thoughts and perhaps even experience from those that may have dealt with this.

Cheers!
Ryan

Interesting case Ryan, keep us updated on progress.

Quick Update: My contact at Google got back to me today saying he/she is going to look into what the reason may have been.

Ryan

Yes, please keep us updated, personally I couldn’t try to sue them, not being in the US I don’t have the culture of sueing, but if I was a US resident I might try yes.

No problem guys. Will do.

I’m still waiting on my contact. Personally, I think their hope is to drag it out so long I get over it.

No response after my last post. But will check back.

Cheers!
Ryan

Hello Ryan
i realy sympatise with you on your fight with google. i am a young network marketer seeking to go in for this google adsene concept but have a lot or reservation even from what i have read from your post. Obviously you have been in this market for quite some time now.
Honestly i like a good advice from you first how it works and then how not to fail into the hands of the adversary (GOOGLE!!!)
Cheers

Wish you the best. Google’s control in the marketplace is somewhat terrifying. Any stand to improve user service, to me is worth it. Just try to fix it without court. They have way more time and money than most countries do.

So any news from your contact?

Hey guys,

Thanks for the support.

In short, I have NOT heard back from my contact, and I’ve written the person again recently to see what the heck is going on.

By the looks of things, they are just dragging things out.

Ryan

Small update.

Google must be receiving my emails, as last I wrote I also asked if it was possible to shut off the advertisements (sponsored links) that appeared above the search results on my site. I figured why have them if I’m not getting paid for them.

Now the Google Search doesn’t work whatsoever. So can I not use the Google site search on my site if I’m suspended with AdSense?

My lawyer now has a letter drafted over this whole thing, I just need to figure out where to send it.

Cheers!
Ryan

I think webmasters can use google search even if they don’t have an adsense account, but it is not the same code to use. If you still want that, you need to see http://www.google.com/cse/

So you decided to take legal action?

Google Support is known for its slow response.
It could be that they are reviewing your case and that it could take 4-6 weeks before you get a response.
For legal action it will take month to years to get your money back.
I would wait at least 6 weeks before I start suing them.

After you sued there is no chance in hell you get back in.
You can’t sue yourself back into the program, the maximum result would be to get your money back.

StarBuG

Well, when they suspend my account permanently (rejected appeal), I’m assuming their decision is that I have no way back anyway.

Cheers
Ryan

I thought you contacted your Google Rep and he/she was looking into the matter and did not yet get back to you?

Or was your appeal rejected after that?

My appeal was rejected during. But my contact was out of the loop. Contact said they’d look at the notes on my account to at least give me some sort of indication of what was going on.

Now google is not allowing their search engine (which I’ve integrated on my site), to run on my site. Feels vicious.

Ryan

It is sad to hear that honest and big publishers get the boot sometimes as well for no apparent reason.

But from your report it seems you will do ok without Google as well.

Then good luck with your law suet.

Probably an honest mistake on your part, but I feel sometimes Google is a puppet at times. They are pulled between Adword Users and Adsense Users. I bet something was wrong on the Adword side which caused your problem on the adsense side. They don’t just randomly ban people for the most part. Even though that truly can happen with anything, but honestly probably a big mistake.

I would not sue. It doesn’t seem ethical for what you want to try to achieve in the end. At least I would wait on it as other have said.

Good luck

I have now written my Google contact repeatedly.

No response. Just ignoring my emails. They won’t even respond to my simple request of: “What is your legal department contact info?”

I know the “simple mistake” idea, and, like I said, all I want is an answer why Google AdSense feels they don’t have to pay me my $28K earned.

If it was a simple mistake, or an issue, Google could write me back and explain what happened. Seriously, I could give up on the $28K if they just gave me an honest reason. Except the fact that their CPA ads weren’t converting as well as they liked. Weak. That doesn’t mean you just don’t pay.

My contact at Google is Anna Clark. Some of you may also be in contact with her. She used to respond to my emails, but it makes sense that they’d want me to just give up and, in the end, burn me out.

But talking about going against their motto: “Don’t be evil.”

They can take five minutes to call me and say, “Hey, we needed the $28K to pay all those bonuses you recently heard about.” ****, at least it’s an answer.

Ryan