Any recommendations for Social Networking Scripts (a la MySpace)?

People in the windows world say that Community Server is basically a pretty good forum that has a front end with some other stuff hacked on. I thought visually it looks really nice but the more I looked the more I realized it’s not exactly what I’m looking for. Add that it takes hosting Windows which to me is a much bigger hassle and cost. Still, there are people who do it successfully. There is a list of CS sites out there and sadly it made me think much less of CS.

Regarding PHPFox - yes, it has issues. I’ll give you a few. First, it’s very confusing for users to use right out of the box. Second, the code is still spaghetti even though it is much improved from early versions. Try changing a graphic that appears throughout your site and you’ll end up editing 12 different php files which you’ll have to hunt down. Third, it still doesn’t scale extremely well. Fourth, everything you see is mostly superficial with little back end admin power and little validation, which includes email signup. If you look in the forums, while they have a LOT of hacks which is a great plus, there are many people making a living off of stupid addons that should have been in there from day one. It’s sad that these are being sold since most software grew with minor hacks being added by the community and shared.

Still all in all phpfox is still the leader. I’m not crazy about the others nor elgg and its flashy name. It’s a good start but is still far behind being anything other than a useful educational project, IMHO. I have no idea what is “formidable” about it at first glance and not one of the dozen sites in the showcases seemed anything other than stock installs. They do have a well organized site. Customizations are provided for a fee via consulting services it seems. Open source business model it seems.

Alicia… looks like a total dud as most predicted. Flashy nice front page that at first glance gives you the “cool” effect, but it soon goes away. Also seems like crap under the hood and even their own demo site appears to have all sorts of problems. They are still toying with the “insiders club” and taking themselves way too seriously. At least Francisco Burzi actually HAD a product that was out before he resorted to such tactics.

The other stuff just doesn’t seem to be there yet. I’m disappointed that DZOIC Handshakes is encoded and I can’t bring myself to go in that direction for the cost with a small foreign company and limited community. It too seems a little lacking on the admin side. Been burned too often and once you invest the time in your script, it’s a beast to move away.

BuddyZone unfortunately is what it is. I am not at all confident in being able to work with the developer at this point. I do sympathize the heckling I’m sure he’s getting from the phpfox guys who are probably a little scared of the fact that his script seems cleaner and works on the front end. But for $400 you have to know how to run a vendor site, market to and build a community of users, and have your community help you build the software and user base that will pay for it if the other factors are present. There are areas that need work and I know that there isn’t any community to help with development and if I want to do that, I’ll just spend a few thousand and have a dev team build one from scratch instead of using someone else’s and spending the same money. Perhaps this guy will lose some of the stubborn attitude in time but I’m not betting $400 on it…

So that leaves me with Fox, which needs a lot of clean up to work well. Version 2.0 promises to be that although from the way things look it will be a while until they are there. If upgrading was as difficult as it was in earlier versions, be ready to pull any and all hair out that you have.

And there you have it folks… my take on the current state of social networking scripts. :smiley:

Thanks for your post!

I took a look at some of the CS sites, and was a bit baffled, too. THOSE are their best efforts?

I’m also wondering why they don’t have a ‘groups’ feature…

At present, CS reminds me of Expression Engine (but not as good).

What I REALLY want is Expression Engine with a ‘groups’ feature. If I got that, I wouldn’t even miss my beloved vBulletin.

Another option would be to have an awesome CMS that smoothly integrates with vBulletin (and then I’d use the new vB Groups commune).

One of my main issues with Fox (BEFORE getting under the hood), is there is no real content management…

I used Subdreamer CMS integrated with vB to build www.DDRFitclub.com because I don’t need multiple authors on that site, but for another a large content driven site, it won’t suffice. It’s perfect for DDR, however, and I’ll build the ‘social’ aspects into vB.

I’m going to take another look at CS, and Fox though…maybe I can make SOMETHING work. In the meantime, I’m leaning heavily towards Expression Engine for my next round of sites.

Just saw this.

I’m working with a 256 meg VZ VPS running debian. I’ve got all the control panels disabled and admin everything with bash scripts.

I’m stuck with mysql4.1 until i can upgrade to IPB2.2. Preliminary benchmarks on my localhost indicate that I should be able to hit my goal of 200 users on at once without slowing anything else down after those upgrades. I expect to be able to upgrade the server before having that kind of traffic with any kind of regularity.


Recently someone linked to a script, I thought it was on here but now I can’t find it. It’s a fairly high end commercial script but it’s free to use as long as you don’t turn a profit. At first I didn’t give it a second look but now I’m wanting to give it a test install just for the hell of it. It’s a blog-heavy SN setup that lets you import content from a lot of other services.

Anyone know what that was? I can’t find the link now. There is both a hosted and host-your-own variant.

Are you sure it wasn’t Community Server? (The CS we were referring to in the above posts…)

Yeah. It’s LAMP based but in that same range.

If you’re looking at that, take a look at Discussion Board as well.

http://www.activedataonline.com.au/discussionboard.html

It looks like it has a lot of SN potential though I’ve never seen it used for such.

I couldn’t locate the DEMO at the link you provided…(it’s probably some place obvious, but I missed it…)

I love EE. I have a copy and run a personal site on it. The challenge is that it’s limited in what it does as a whole but what it does, it does nicely. It’s not sure if it wants to be a blog or CMS and right now I think it is, hands down, the best blogging software around period. Wordpress does not even compare. It is not Joomla. It fits best as a blog although others have used it effectively as a CMS for a mag. It’s sweet but it’s also not a social networking software nor configurable for one. The fact that the forums can be used makes it functional (I was upset that they spent so much time on reinventing the wheel instead of just improving the rest of the core product.)

I agree with your observations completely and empathize…

Has anyone seen this MySpace-style profile module for Drupal?

http://www.drupalution.com/mods

(I’m starting to get excited about Drupal again!!! :D)

When was that lasted updated? When I last looked it was a 2.6 module.

Have you looked at CivicSpace btw? It’s a drupal distro geared towards political organizing that comes with some third party SN mods built in, including profile stuff.

http://csod-demo.civicspaceondemand.org/

People Aggregator is the one I was going nuts trying to remember.

http://www.peopleaggregator.com/

Anyone have any experience with them one way or the other?

Hi all

I am also looking around for a social networking script. I currently have a community of 2000+ members, but I rented the software, so that is not a longterm solution

I really like the new script of webscribbles called: Webnetwork
http://www.webscribble.com/products/webnetwork/index.shtml

Anyone knows this script? I read a lot of bad things about webscribble this makes me cautious to buy this script

cheers

Martino

I usually take comments with a grain of salt but for every good comment I’ve heard another one that is disappointing. What I do know for sure is that part of their scripts are encoded and I usually stay far away from such companies who are potentially not viable or do not have good support. Social networking scripts present a challenge now and I’m moving forward and probably developing one of my own or extending open source.

my site is running phpfox i highly recomend them my ycs site has 1630 members

If anyone has more feedback on Webscribble I’d love to hear it. We are evaluating it at the moment.

Thanks!

Same question…anyone know how the final beta version is going?

Thanks

At first glance it certainly looks great. Looking at the back end it’s pretty nicely set up for templating and simple. They did do a lot of good work. But I did notice a few things.

  1. It’s encoded with Zend which means you’ve got to deal with copy protection issues. From what I read earlier, their dating script requires that it constantly ping their site and if the WS site goes down, so does your admin section. In addition, they used to have a forums area that apparently was taken down so now if you buy the script, you’re on your own. I’d personally prefer the phpfox method of having several dozen others trying to accomplish similar things help out in the same way we do here.

  2. Every “module” costs money and it’s not like they have extensive features. The integration of an external forum only works with phpBB and you get to pay $50 more just for that privilege. Search by zip code? Add another $50. Add live chat? $100. Now you’re sitting pretty at $400 just for the basics and you don’t even have a basic classifieds system. PHPFox gives you all of those and more. Yes version 1.1 is a horrific mess in comparison to this script and 1.5 only offers some improvement. But if you’re willing to wait a little while longer and toil with 1.5, it’s possible that you might find good rewards.

  3. I couldn’t find any reasonably useful search function. Sure there is an eye candy dropdown on the top menu but all you can do is search with keywords, not by sections, etc. With many files/videos, good luck.

  4. Templating uses functions and I don’t know how they are implemented and what you can get to due to the encoding. For example, if you look at the search form you’ll see that the html file contains just {SEARCH} in it. This means that you may or may not be able to hack the contents.

  5. Thumbnailing seems to stretch out photos. Some are better able to make use of dimensions that aren’t totally square and just resize them so they don’t stretch. Not that most don’t suffer this problem but I’m noticing it all over on their demo. The thumbnails look good on some pages because they are displayed in the right dimensions but stretched on others because of the template requiring a square box. This can probably be be fixed but prepare to make changes across the board.

  6. Did I mention that their profile search doesn’t allow you to search just for profiles with photos? I’m sure you can hack this but, again, I don’t know how easy this is to work with under the hood or if you can.

  7. Profiles - Other than the eye candy interface, exactly what can a user do with his/her profile? All the ones I browsed showed a few characteristics, a guestbook, list of friends and that’s just about all. I logged in for an account and found that you can’t create your own pages. Right now it only acts as a modification of their dating package except you can put up songs for your band - if this is what you’re using the site for.

So after looking through all this and seeing #7, it appears this isn’t really a reasonable equivalent to PHPFox, BuddyZone, or any of the others at this point. At least this is what I took away from this.

Hello, I just joined the forum today.

Sorry to inturrupt the thread but I am interrested in creating a social network site within a small buisness niche ASAP, but I have no experience whatsoever. I came up with the idea last week, so that gives you an idea how new I am to this. It seems like phpFox has the most votes in this thread,
but I can’t decide for myself at the moment. I basically want people to be able to share their products (description, photos, and possibly videos).

I iventually plan to improve the site by outsourcing a programmer to build a custom site as my site evolves, so I would like to be able to
migrate all my members. But for the meantime I would like to get started with
a small investment (around $300)

I know I sound like a retard, but can anyone give me some good advice for a novice like me to get started quickly?

Thank you!

Respectfully, you may want to read discussion threads and take time to look at the products and see the differences for yourself. There is no script that is just the greatest. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. There is plenty of data here and any of the scripts mentioned should do the job.

Hmm…It appears that phpFox seems to be a favorite here. After the feedback I’ve seen on Webscribble, phpFox looks like a good fit. Does anyone know how easy it is to manipulate to build it into a custom design? There templates are pretty ugly.

It’s not like OSCommerce where the code and UI is all tied together is it?

Thanks,
Tony

HI all

thanks for your replies to my question about webnetwork from webscribble
I also looked at dolphin from Boonex, is is now free and they say no encryption etc anymore
Anybody any experience? I know it is basically the old AE dating, but they claim that it now evolved into a social networking/community platform

It looks quiet ok

thanks martino