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Old Nov 8, 2009, 03:52   #1
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Hi all,

I hope I won't cause problem with my answer, does anyone know of a very good reputable SEO company that can get you on top page on google or other serach engines. Any reply would be much appreciated.

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Old Nov 8, 2009, 07:38   #2
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Nobody can get you on top. It's just the nature of how search engines work. There are so many variables that nobody can predict exactly what will lift you to the top of the results for certain keywords.

In fact, the only certainty when it comes to SEO is that anybody who guarantees you top place is a liar.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 13:30   #3
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Nobody can get you on top. It's just the nature of how search engines work. There are so many variables that nobody can predict exactly what will lift you to the top of the results for certain keywords.

In fact, the only certainty when it comes to SEO is that anybody who guarantees you top place is a liar.

Thank you so much for your reply it is much appreciated, that's what I thought it's just one of my client been approached by a suppose seo company and the guy told him he can keep him on top google page for 18 months and he believed LOL but lucky for him he usually get my opinion before he gave his credit card away, i told him straight away the guy was lying no one can get to the top page just like that, as the guys here are very good I wanted your opinions to know for sure.

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Old Nov 8, 2009, 13:41   #4
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Thank you so much for your reply it is much appreciated, that's what I thought it's just one of my client been approached by a suppose seo company and the guy told him he can keep him on top google page for 18 months and he believed LOL
people like that are usually not to be trusted, and you need to make due diligence, i.e. getting first-hand testimonials from their clients.

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i told him straight away the guy was lying no one can get to the top page just like that
It is possible just like that, it all depends on the competitiveness of the keywords you are targeting. He could also mean through SEM (sponsored links) rather than SEO.
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 01:11   #5
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people like that are usually not to be trusted, and you need to make due diligence, i.e. getting first-hand testimonials from their clients.



It is possible just like that, it all depends on the competitiveness of the keywords you are targeting. He could also mean through SEM (sponsored links) rather than SEO.
I would probably think it be hard work though and someone who have the great know how. The internet is not enough to get the business going word of mouth is very affective and leg works, even though a company is on top page it doesn't mean you'll get plenty of business.

thanks for your reply much appreciated.
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 02:06   #6
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I would probably think it be hard work though and someone who have the great know how. The internet is not enough to get the business going word of mouth is very affective and leg works, even though a company is on top page it doesn't mean you'll get plenty of business.
The basics of SEO are easy to grasp and not at all time consuming to implement, and that is enough to get you to the first page with a not so competitive keyword combinations. Some market research or some very good educated guesses of what is important to those searching for these keywords will do the rest, i.e. will help with message framing and targeting.[/quote]

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thanks for your reply much appreciated.
even though your intention is good and you want to be polite I guess, you don't have to tell everybody that their reply is much appreciated, sounds very fake and unreal after a while and more like you don't really mean it but still want to be polite, a simple cheers or thanks is enough.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 07:52   #7
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corbyboy is pretty much right, though it depends on the keyword and your competition (see below). It also depends on your budget, there are quite a few very good SEO specialists out there that can get you very good results but they demand a lot of money, both one-off and monthly "maintenance" fees.

If your keyword combination is not very competitive, you can achieve top results by simply following the SEO guide at the top of this sub-forum.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 13:33   #8
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corbyboy is pretty much right, though it depends on the keyword and your competition (see below). It also depends on your budget, there are quite a few very good SEO specialists out there that can get you very good results but they demand a lot of money, both one-off and monthly "maintenance" fees.

If your keyword combination is not very competitive, you can achieve top results by simply following the SEO guide at the top of this sub-forum.
Thank you very much for your reply it is much appreciated, yes I agree too and I need to tell my client that how it works there are no qucik fix.

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Old Nov 8, 2009, 10:36   #9
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First of all, if you are tight with your budget you could always try hiring an individual freelancer rather than a company.. you have to screen them to make sure they really could deliver quality service for you. And just a hint. Any seo that tries to offer you a sure spot on google or other se in such a short span of time, is definitely not a good seo company. It takes time to do quality work but worth it in the long run.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 13:54   #10
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First of all, if you are tight with your budget you could always try hiring an individual freelancer rather than a company.. you have to screen them to make sure they really could deliver quality service for you. And just a hint. Any seo that tries to offer you a sure spot on google or other se in such a short span of time, is definitely not a good seo company. It takes time to do quality work but worth it in the long run.
Thanks for your reply it is much appreciated I agree also with your reply that's what I've told my client and need to tell him again.

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Old Nov 8, 2009, 21:25   #11
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Do not go with anybody who guarantees you will get on the first page! These people are lying. Whilst many of us try to help our clients by using best practices, we can never be sure of SERP's as competition and the marketplace varies between each industry.
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 01:18   #12
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Do not go with anybody who guarantees you will get on the first page! These people are lying. Whilst many of us try to help our clients by using best practices, we can never be sure of SERP's as competition and the marketplace varies between each industry.
Thank you for your reply it is much appreciated, I agree totally and know how hard work it is to get to the top page, I need to tell my client that and let him look into seo himself as I do not wish to go down that road, it's very time consuming and time I do not have.

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Old Nov 9, 2009, 00:46   #13
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beware of company that promising to get your site on top, without doing any site analysis.. its really hard to get on top or on first page these days with a well known kws..
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 01:20   #14
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beware of company that promising to get your site on top, without doing any site analysis.. its really hard to get on top or on first page these days with a well known kws..
Thank you for your reply it is much appreciated, I agree totally I shall convince my client to change his route unless he has plenty of dosh to get a very good and expensive seo company to put his business to the top.

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Old Nov 9, 2009, 01:53   #15
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very good? I think you can learn something about SEO
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Old Nov 10, 2009, 01:50   #16
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very good? I think you can learn something about SEO
Thanks very much for your post Risahe it is much appreciated yes I suppose one can learn about seo but there are so much involved and to do with regards to seo I am not sure I would go down that road at the moment. The old fashion way of drumming up some business is pretty affective also lol.

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Old Nov 10, 2009, 03:40   #17
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You don't blindly go for a company. Think of what you require and what the other side can provide you. Then you select a best company that can lead you nearest to your goals.
Dont expect to reach the first page of Google in a week or a month. It depends on the niche you are actually targeting on.
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Old Nov 10, 2009, 08:50   #18
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Umm ok interesting thread here guys. Well, as everyone else had said nobody can guarantee you to be #1 for your keywords.
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Old Nov 10, 2009, 12:45   #19
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Helen,

Let me start by saying that there is no way to "ensure" you will be number one or even on the first page of any search. That being said, I always “guaranty” my work especially on geo-specific keywords. All that means is if I can’t get a top 3 ranking on a keyword people are actually searching for within a set amount of time I will stop charging them. Any SEO company should be able to look at the keywords you want and let you know approximately how long it will take to get you the ranking you are looking for.
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I know that no one can guarantee a top spot on SERP's, but I have a hard time believing that no one can strongly promise high rankings. There are definitely practices that work in SEO and there are people that can tell you how to perform such tactics. That will likely get you high rankings if these practices are implemented over a long-term consistent period.
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I agree with the later posts. It's true that no one can absolutely guarantee a particular position for any keywords they are thrown. However, someone with a bit of experience could certainly be confident of getting pages a decent ranking if the key phrases aren't ultra competitive, or they are targeting geographic specific searches.

I think if Ultra Mega Widgets Miami came to me wanting to rank well for their own business name (no competition) I'd be pretty confident of getting on the first page!
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Old Nov 10, 2009, 16:23   #22
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It seems to me that for the prices I have heard thrown around for SEO companies it would be best to go it alone until you are certain you cant attain success on your own. Its a ton of work to do backlinking and optimization on your own but it can be done if you incorporate the time into your daily routine. I wouldn't bother with the SEO's unless I had a large budget and zero time.
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What about purchasing high PR links does anyone know how well that works?
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What about purchasing high PR links does anyone know how well that works?
From what I've been reading lately google is trying its best to eliminate the practice of paying for high PR links. Evidence of this is in the recent webmaster tools page getting rid of the pagerank meter which showed how google viewed your website rank. They are essentially trying to de-emphasize the importance of a sites page rank so that people dont feel like its the only way to achieve ranking success.
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@ RibbonsBaskets - Buying high page rank links can help but there's a lot of variables. Some sites will leave those links up indefinitely. Some will remove them as soon as you put them up. Some will be dofollow and some will be nofollow. There's a lot to consider before you just buy some links.
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