I guess that is what’s in it for them. I am very tempted to click on the buy button sometimes. I have bought one cheap domain from them and I am going to transfer more domains successively.
Well, look… I can get the cheapest deal with IONOS (1GB of RAM, 10GB of storage, £1 per month, and no sign as far as I can tell that the price goes up after a few months), plus I can get the domain that I want with them for £1 a year (and then I’ll just go to whoever is cheapest). I guess that 10 GB is fine for my initial purposes. The only thing that will take up space will be a few videos, but I don’t see myself getting close to 10GB, and anyway the videos don’t have to be included in any backups if I’ve got them safely sitting here at home. Presumably they’ll be very happy to let me upgrade to the next largest package anyway, should the need arise.
This Ionos VPS is a proper Linux server, right, so everything is configurable? Hugo, Wordpress, whatever I decide to use in the end - everything is possible? Only the mail server and SSL issues left to decide if I go for that, and you’re telling me that I can do the SSL with Cloudfare. Still wondering why they would provide all that stuff for nothing, but hey ho 
And who provides mail hosting services, by the way? Is that something that you can get on the cheap?
Would I be installing several instances of Hugo, for each of the subdomains, like having separate databases if it’s based on Wordpress or whatever CMS? Or does Hugo work over the whole domain? Sorry if that’s not a good question. It makes sense in my head at least,
I have no experience with IONOS, but many other VPS vendors offer backup as snapshots of the entire 10GB. Sometimes the charge extra for this and sometimes it is included.
Yes. And I suggest to use Debian 12 and Webmin as an admin tool. Webmin is a visual way to manage the server.
Yes. They offer several ways to do this. Safer or simpler.
Many offer this service separate from the web hosting. But Google is your friend.
Yes, you have to install a Hugo instance for each subdomain. Something like different taxis (Hugos) controlled by a taxi center (Nginx)
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But presumably they’ll just be offering whatever version of Linux they have, no? And that’s going to be Ubuntu, I guess. Sorry, maybe I’ve misunderstood. Webmin, OK, I understand.
Well, safer sounds better!
My *frenemy!!!
OK, this is all understood!
I thnik I’m ready to get stuck in. Even if IONOS turns out to be not the best, I’m not losing much (other than the time that it might take to learn that lesson!)
Ubuntu is built on Debian. But Ubuntu is made for desktops. Not for servers. IMO.
There are other VPS that may have a “free” evaluation. DigitalOcean (Droplets = VPS), Vultr and Linode. But UpCloud is still my main suggestion as it do comply with GDPR.
Yes, I know that Debian is the root of many (or most?) distros. I’ve only ever played with Ubuntu so far, and had a look at some others on VMs.
Well, alright, I’ll have a look at them before I make the final commitment (not that £1 a month is much of a commitment anyway!)
I found this on IONOS, so you can run Debian 12 on IONOS
So IMO Debian is a faster, cleaner and better maintained (3 years of full support) version of Ubuntu. I should like to play with Ubuntu on a desktop, but not on a server.
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Well, that’s pretty cool that they let you choose!
They’re actually a German company, so stereotypically you’d expect them to be pretty reliable.
I have been running VPS servers with IONOS for years. Never once a single problem.
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We usually do not comment on the use of English but since you are teaching English to others, I seldom saw firstly used until I edited articles written by people whose native language is not English. I am accustomed to seeing first used instead of firstly.
Definitely. Services such as that make it easy to get started but they don’t want you to go elsewhere therefore they make it difficult to. Open software such as WordPress does make it (relatively) easy to convert if you need to or want to.
Did you mean WordPress?
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There are many CMSs. There once was a site that was like a database of CMS software and it probably still exists but I cannot find the site now. WordPress is the most popular.
If you have not purchased a domain name then it will help to purchase it from the hosting company you will be using. That might be a disadvantage in the future if you want to switch to a different hosting company. Cloudflare would be a good choice for domain name registration. They are the only one I know of that offers domain name registration services at their cost. Google and IBM did but they are discontinuing that service therefore I won’t be surprised when Cloudflare does too. There are a couple of disadvantages to most domain name registrars that are cheaper than most.
There are many hosts that offer managed WordPress hosting. They offer a host with WordPress installed and they manage details such as performance and updating to newer versions.
Your preferred method of customer service might be relevant. Hosts like GoDaddy only offer phone support. Phone support can be frustrating when a problem is complicated, or at least there are details that are provided easier using email or an online ticket.
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Maybe you should just not comment at all on my native English, which is different from yours. It’s kinda rude, and unfortunately makes it difficult for me to appreciate everything else that you wrote here!
I am sorry. People very often try to help others here with their programming and other technical subjects. It is unfortunate that people do not want similar help with English. Please, try to interpret as an attempt to help in the same way that people try to help with technical issues. If there is a better way to say what I meant to say then I am interested in improving too.
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It was just haughty and rude, pal. If you need to go away and listen to people speaking British English, maybe do that. I don’t know. I don’t want to waste energy feeling angry. And thank you sooooo much, but I really do not need your help with my English.
I do not understand how. I am interested in understanding.
Yes. It seems unnecessary to me.
To me it was way off topic and not very polite. And was it not the British that invented the language? I suggest you take this conversation private. If you must debate.
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Thanks. No need to debate my “nativeness”! (nativity??? LOL). I can assure you all that i was born and grew up in the British Isles. There’s plenty of dialectal variation here, despite the size of the place. English is a language spoken every day by hundreds of millions of natives, and as many as two or three billion non-natives, so i think we can accept that there are many flavours.
And that’s my final word on the matter. Back to websites now! I’ve got a few things to check, but IONOS is very much looking like the favourite here.
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It is on topic because the person says in the post that they are teaching English to others and my comments were not harsh in the manner that people around here are harsh about programming style.
Then I apologize. I agree that I must accept that there is variation. There would not have been a problem if you had just replied with this. I can admit when I make a mistake.
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Hey Everyone. I took the plunge last night with IONOS, and got an email to confirm the order. I can log on, but so far it’s saying that I have 0 domains with them. Does it normally take more than a day to process such things? Is this just because it’s a weekend??? No worries anyway - there’s plenty of football on telly.
I had also included the basic web hosting in the basket, but for some reason it wasn’t there when I placed the order. I thought that was a bit weird, but maybe something that I did 
Well, I called them in fact. It takes 24 hours to process things, apparently. Presumably it’ll be there by tomorrow at the latest.
Well, having taken the plunge with IONOS, I’m now trying to play around with nginx (and Apache, for comparison and general learning, I guess). I’ve got questions about that. Can I ask them here, or should I move them to a different category?
So far, I just want to understand what I need to put in the conf files to ensure that the server can serve PHP pages, while keeping HTML as the default in the root directory. This is connected to the plan to use Hugo for most of the site, but to keep WordPress (or whatever other CMS) for blogging. I haven’t got around to installing Hugo yet, by the way. It was enough just looking at nginx and apache today.
I haven’t, by the way, completely discounted the idea of using Hugo for blogging. I just read an article about that, but still not entirely convinced that it would be as easy as doing it with a CMS. Anyway, I guess that you’re going to end up needing a CMS for something eventually, so I think my question is fair enough.