Thankyou. I just needed to quote this as a matter of public record.
Just quoting your edited post as a matter of public record
Remember, you have been warned 2x you have no legitimate business with vacationsense.com.
You are not a customer, you have not provided any services to them.
You are defaming and harrassing them without basis (exactly what vacation issue is involved?). If it can be proven that in fact you are conspiring with the other Yowcow nutjobs, there are RICO implications (treble damages, plus all legal fees).
You are looking to defame a legitimate business that has nothing to do with you. This is a lot more serious than you realize. I suggest you check with mommy and daddy’s attorney.
Jesse wrote:
"How do you treat your customers Mr Sink, if they make a mistake? Humiliate them on a public forum?
You disgust me !
I will now make it my mission to show people how low vacationsense.com can stoop. I will show in forums how your bulldog getreal is let loose on forums to attack innocent posters with thier own opinions. The way all this has been handled is not reasonable and people should be made aware of what they are getting into when they deal with vacationsense.com and its staff."
You have no legitimate business with vacationsense.com. You are harassing him in his place of business. You are defaming Mr. Sink personally, and his business, in public, over a matter in which you are not involved, for the purpose of damaging his business and reputation. The fact that you are “thinking” about using Yowcow’s service provides you with no status in this case.
If you were ever involved in a business, you would know that Mr. Sink has no obligation to repond to unsolicited message he receives. You have no service to offer him, and he would not be expected to respond to unsolicited offers of service in any case. The only obligation he has is not to discriminate against bona fide clients on the basis of race, religion, color, sex, or age. You are not a bona fide client, you are a wacko. Look it up in the dictionary, if you can’t spell it, just look for your picture, it will be there under the word, wacko.
Mr. Sink is running a business, he is not looking for penpals. Stop waiting for an email response from him, you are not entitled to one. Go for a walk smell the roses.
You are making groundless accusations about how he treats his customers, for the purpose of damaging his business. He’s got an excellent case, and your best defense is insanity (i.e. the nut case defense, which it looks like you can make stick, solely on the basis of your actions on this board).
I’ve got a good lawyer for him. I can recommend the same lawyer to Yowcow if you call them pretending to be upset customer - this is harassment too.
So tell me again, why is it Tizer never got an answer to his questions to Yowcow? I suppose he’s lying too? He wanted to use Yowcow, but all you moocows are too busy playing Sybil all day on the internet to answer legitmate customer inquiries.
Keep those quotes coming 
How do you know what my business is with vacationsense?. Looking at the email that vacationsense was sent by me would tell you exactly what my question was. I saw no warning when I used vacationsense contact page that read, “Submitting any form of text will make you liable for harrasment” or something along those lines.
This is the title of the Forum where Jesse posts:
“Adult Industry Community Discussion Forums For Webmistresses And Webmasters To Talk About The Various Aspects Of The Online Porn Industry.”
You’re involved in the porn industry and you’re lecturing to me about my attitude towards women? ROTFLMAO! 
forums.femalewebmasters.com/showthread.php?threadid=2350
Exactly what type of painting is it you do that makes a porno forum your preferred venue? Body painting?
NO ONE, not Randy nor I, EVER said anything that was gender specific. So much for the “Attacked because I’m female” crap. Is that where you usually run where someone nails you for your wacko behavior? I don’t think women have a monopoly on wacko behavior, do you? If you do, perhaps you need to examine your chauvinistic attitudes.
Perhaps you would like to divulge your correspondence with vacationsense to us, so that we can understand how it was related to their business? If it wasn’t related to their business, you needn’t bother, because it is irrelevant. Mr. Sink doesn’t have to become your penpal just because you want him to.
I have no relationship with vacationsense.com. In fact, I will now apologize publicly for getting Mr. Sink involved in this more than he wanted to be. My site is:
In fact, if you’ve research Yowcow, you might already have come across it. It ranks #3 at google when you search on the word “yowcow”.
I have a message board there specifically for YowCow. The board is new. Please do post there, you’ll make me look so rational and intelligent by way of contrast.
My “real” business is DREJ Consulting. You’re welcome to send me email. But understand in advance, I don’t answer unsolicited email unless there is a legitimate business interest involved, and I’ve got a terrific spam filter. If you want me to know it’s you, just include the word “wacko” in the subject. You don’t have to specify male or female, I’ll know it’s you.
P.S. Feel free to post whatever you want about me on the porn forum. It’s not the first place my customers look for information about me.
P.P.S. Mr. Sink didn’t harass you because you filled out a form, he IGNORED you because he runs a business and you are contacting him about something that has nothing to do with that business (unless you want to divulge what business content there was in the email).
You do understand the difference harassment and non-response, don’t you?
YOWCOW tried to get my petition taken off the web, and paypalsucks banned my IP because I embarassed their biggest advertiser.
I posted a copy of Mark Karlsson’s email to petitiononline. In that email, Karlsson asked that my web petition be suppressed.
Before you could say “butt kisser,” paypalsucks.com banned my IP, claiming my posts had nothing to do with YOWCOW’s business operations.
I disagree. People have a right to know who they are dealing with. YOWCOW claims they are an advocate of “unlimited free speech,” and CEO Karlsson says “the very basics of life is FREE SPEECH.” For Mark Karlsson to ask petitiononline.com to suppress my petition because it was embarassing shows this company is underhanded and hypocritical.
Anyone who has posted anything less than glowing about YOWCOW, and has been attacked viciously on multiple forums by multiple YOWCOW personalities, knows exactly what I’m talking about.
See paypalsucks-sucks.com to see Karlsson’s letter to petitiononline.com, and the calm, reasoned reply from Kevin Matthews (manager of petitiononline.com)
See http://www.yowcow-sucks.com/board/index.php?topic=5.0 for a discussion of why YOWCOW is a hypocrite when it comes to Free Speech.
Maybe he should change his tagline to “Free Speech becomes an inconvenience when you are the subject”
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As the Host, you are responsible in accordance with your rules.
We believe our actions should now include pair Networks
Thank you for letting us know your stance
Mark Karlsson
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Security seems to be an inconvenience until you get burned.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:19 AM
To: manager@yowcow.com
Subject: Re: [F8P5U8L] Urgent
Hello, this is Chris Carter from pair Networks, Inc. Abuse Dept.
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question, nor exercise editorial control over our customer’s web
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> Please inform me of your actions in regards to
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> We don’t oppose free speech but we do oppose condemnation of a company
> who appreciates free speech
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> Mark Karlsson
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> Fax: +61 260591603
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> Security seems to be an inconvenience until you get burned.
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all that almost would be funny if i wouldn’t be that blue…
Any reason you three fight this personal dispute in public?
but this thread was about using YOWCOW as a financial service provider.
I think that anyone considering this is entitled to know that YOWCOW selectively enforces their Acceptable Use Policy to favor hate sites.
Just as I avoid doing business with companies that use child labor, I think that many people would prefer to avoid doing business with a company that chooses to help raise money for hates sites, in violation of their own Acceptable Use Policy.
That’s why I am making this dispute public - that and the fact that YOWCOW has tried get both my petition and website removed from the internet.
Since YOWCOW’s argument for servicing the hate site was “Free Speech,” I think their hypocrisy in trying to take away my right to Free Speech is something potential customers should know about too.
The only way to inform potential customers is to spread the word publicly.
See:
and
http://www.yowcow-sucks.com/board/index.php?topic=9.0
for details.
whatever you or the others are saying cannot be proofed from neither party and so it’s pretty much worthless.
What you guys are doing here in this thread is XAB.
You are the one who is adding nothing to the discussion.
If you’re not interested, look elsewhere.
I am one of the parties involved, I’ve posted the emails and correspondence that “proof” (sic) what I am saying.
This intersting debate aside I wouldnt advise anybody to go anywhere yowcow. They are notorious for late payments if they pay at all and regularly seem to freeze accounts for no reason. Plus they are Australian so forget about any legal action should yowcow milk you of your cash :0)
For almost a year now I have been using YowCow but in the past couple months they have become very unreliable.
On 3/26/05 I ordered a withdrawal of $209.00 to be transferred into my bank account.
On 4/16/05 I ordered a withdrawal of $639.00 to be transferred into my bank account.
As of today, 6/4/2005 I have still not received $848.00 of my money that they are holding for no apparent reason. I have also gotten an e-mail from a customer trying to order a video telling me that they are now showing a page that I am not a recognized seller. I don’t know what is going on with them but it is obvious that I cannot any longer utilize their services nor recommend them.