Really? I guess having it in larger text must make it easier to read
Thank you all for the helpful replies. I think the reason I posted this thread was to confirm my belief for not really needing a Sitemap for a Website which only has 8 pages (excluding the Sitemap page which would make it a 9 page Website), each well linked to.
I agree with all of you who say that only a larger Website that may have a more complicated link structure should include a Sitemap. I don’t think I’ll include an XML Sitemap for Google either as it’s such a small Website and simple link structure. Of course I’ll make sure to submit the Websites links to Google and other search engines though :).
Another two questions though:
If you do include a Website Sitemap page showing internal links, should it also include a list of the external Web links that are on each Web page in the site?
and
In a Website Sitemap, as Mittineague has previously said above “The sitemap pages for the smaller sites were not simply a short list of links. They had a small paragraph describing each page.” - Does everyone agree that a relatively small and manageable Sitemap, say for up to a 25 page Website should have such descriptions for each link in the Sitemap page, or should it just be a list of the links to each Web page?
Thanks for the help so far and I’m sure the contributions in this thread from others have helped others who have read this thread.
Andrew Cooper
You can generate XML sitemap using this free service: http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/
xml-sitemaps for small sites
For my point of view the site map is such as the one in question is has no value in any field.it has in good designed.
That’s a good question about external links. I have seen “links” pages that list links to outside “resources”, like a blog roll type of thing.
As an example from my site, say someone goes to:
Home page -> Park section -> Vernal pools page
and follows the link to “mosquitoes.edu” and finds it of interest but doesn’t bookmark it. If they want to visit the external site again, there is a possibility that they could later wander all over my site trying to find that link again. So having the external links listed could be a big help for my visitors. My to-do list just grew again
As for descriptions vs. plain links, I guess it depends on how well the link text conveys the pages content. Something like products/page1, products/page2, products/page3, … could benefit from descriptions. But products/BlueWidgets, products/RedGizmos, products/GreenThings probably would be OK without.
Per your original question, I don’t think a small site needs a sitemap page if the important links can be included in the footer of the site. That’s the first place people go when they can’t find something: they go looking for it in the footer.
I can’t comment having an .xml sitemap, but it sounds like it can be pretty useful.
If you do include a Website Sitemap page showing internal links, should it also include a list of the external Web links that are on each Web page in the site?
No, I don’t think you should include external links on your sitemap. It is there to help visitors find what they need on YOUR site. Directing them away to another site kind of defeats that purpose. One exception might be if you have a joint site or alternate site that your users are likely to be looking for… but that is entirely up to you, whether you think it would be helpful or not.
Does everyone agree that a relatively small and manageable Sitemap, say for up to a 25 page Website should have such descriptions for each link in the Sitemap page, or should it just be a list of the links to each Web page?
This sounds like a good idea to me! It might not be necessary, but it can show that you put some thought into organizing the site. Also, if the purpose of the website is to introduce the general user to a more specialized field it can only help to have some extra info there to guide them.
If you do include a Website Sitemap page showing internal links, should it also include a list of the external Web links that are on each Web page in the site?
AndrewCooper & Mittineague: The simple answer is no. The Sitemap specification explicitly forbid’s the use of external linking within a sitemap.
Also, all URLs in a Sitemap must be from a single host, such as www.example.com or store.example.com
Note that this means that all URLs listed in the Sitemap must use the same protocol (http, in this example) and reside on the same host as the Sitemap. For instance, if the Sitemap is located at http://www.example.com/sitemap.xml, it can’t include URLs from http://subdomain.example.com.
URLs that are not considered valid are dropped from further consideration.
I know that external links shouldn’t go in the Google sitemap.xml file. I was talking about an HTML sitemap page, the “human” sitemap.
thank you for this info…i didn’t know that external links should’n be in the site map
Mittineague, well I would say the same should apply to human readable sitemaps as they do to the machine readable ones, After all Google DOES acknowledge non XML sitemaps and will take the same action upon reading such links. In fact you may run the risk of having your websites position lowered in search rankings on the basis that Google accidently assumes you (and that page) of being a link pharm (as in spamming others URL’s). The method of delivery may be different but the purpose should still be the same, a site map exists only to lay out the location of a websites contents, not to showcase external materials.
ok, now i get it.
thank you very much