ron just for a first look on the imges that you sent and tomorrow i will look more extensively on the two messges and tell you about it just a question you tell me to do with precent is more better but for what i see is more or less the same what i did and what you did what do you think(the first images that is in precent and the secound in pixels)?
thanks galia
Hi ron!
about firefox it is not look like your firefox i can zoom but i do not know if it is the all page or text only what do you think?
see image
thanks galia
If you right-click near the top of the Firefox browser (in the empty space beside the tabs), and select âMenu Barâ, the menu at the top of the browser will appear. You can then use the image that I sent to help you click the âViewâ menu item and select âZoom Text Onlyâ.
If you have not checked âZoom Text Onlyâ, then you are zooming the whole page and not just the text.
ok thank you it works and about the images contact and the all thing about it later on i will send you message but you did not answer me about message #424 and as i think also on #402
thank you galia
Hi ron!
so i try for myself the three options i can see why you did with the percent the text field do not go out from the notebook image page like in the file that i sent when i am changing in firefox the font size and it is good but what about the buttons but the best look is on the fun contact Is there a way to integrate the two files the percent and the fun contact or even better mine file and the fun contact? because now i do not know what to do
thank you galia
Please try the code in post #393 and see what you think.
i try the code in post #393 i see that is behaves like the first images that you sent in post #422 but the buttons looking much better but as you know one button not seen on dreamweaver and still i do not what to do
Why does that matter? Dreamweaver design view is not a real browser. Do both buttons show up correctly in real browsers? Yes? People use real browsers! Thatâs what matters!!!
[size=4]You MUST let go of design view.
Your reliance on Design View is holding back your future like an albatross.[/size]
Please go to post #243 and look at the form in the bottom screen shot. It is not your design, HOWEVER, it is practically foolproof. Fixed width, because there are no columns, there is no interference between them at different font sizes. The buttons remain in a good position. No tables, though.
Nevertheless, that is a design choice, too. And because the space for the form is so narrow, itâs a pretty good choice.
Yes, you DO know what to do, but you do not like the choice. It is not an easy choice. You cannot just coast downhill. You MUST learn more. You call it âtaking a riskâ. I call it âfinally growing up and taking responsibilityâ.
Hi ron!
Why does that matter?
i tell you why does it matters and yes it is true that the look in the browsers is what matters but design view on dreamweaver is not just how the page look like it is also used for using tools to put on the page like div for example and at this case a button that can able work on it in the design view and not just in the code view.
about post #243 if this is what you meant yes it is a good choice too can it be with a table?
Yes, you DO know what to do, but you do not like the choice. It is not an easy choice. You cannot just coast downhill. You MUST learn more. You call it âtaking a riskâ. I call it âfinally growing up and taking responsibilityâ
you are right on a personal note as one that failed all her life it is hard it is meters of a grade and believe me if it were not a project for my course it were be easy even i did not learned all but willing to learn and I hope it will be worth
thank you galia
I think this is a main point.
Design view allows an easier way for those that donât know how to code up a page to do so.
And design view can give you a rough idea how a page might look.
For many that donât care or are ignorant of how the created page will actually look in a real browser, this is good enough.
But for those that know and do care, design view is a crude tool that can help them rough out the beginnings of a page without being too closely bound to the code it produces.
Iâm not saying you shouldnât use design view at all, (though IMHO it would be better if you avoided it altogether) just donât get yourself depending on it or ever think that it will create quality cross-browser pages without needing a lot of tweaking.
Use it as a tool to help you, not as a tool to do it for you.
Which is another reason that you need to learn some CSS⌠so you can modify Dreamweaverâs very old code and make the page behave properly in real browsers. You know that Dreamweaverâs design view does not make the page look the way you want it to and you know that the code does not always work properly in real browsers. You also know that Dreamweaverâs design view will never create good code. Dreamweaver is a very, very old product. You must learn CSS so you can fix Dreamweaverâs old code.
I am very sorry that you have had a life with many failures. Perhaps you should talk with a psychologist about career opportunitites that you would enjoy. Psychologists can administer tests that can help identify career interests and help you make choices.
Writing web pages that work in (most) all browsers is not always easy. There is no magic solution⌠Dreamweaver design view least of all. I am afraid for you that you may be setting yourself up for another disappointment by counting on Dreamweaver. You know that it is not a good tool or you would not be visiting us for answers. You need to go to school again and learn CSS. Itâs a MUST DO!
You asked if that form in post #243 can be written with a table. Yes, but it still requires almost as much CSS as the non-table form to achieve the behavior that you wish.
contact20150115a.html (7.2 KB)
Hi ron!
first of all thank you for your advice and considered i take it to my attention
now i have a dilemma to choose between the two form design what more likely design like something to write on the notebook and what is more effective accessible to users what is your suggestion and i have a question about the file that you sent
1.why to do css style to the buttons if i want to look like i did in the former form?
2. did you leave the javascript like i did on the form?
thanks galia
I left the buttons as they appeared in the image from post #243.
Hopefully, this update changes them to your preferred design.
I have not touched any Javascript on the page, so it should still work as designed. ALWAYS TEST, though. (check with the validator, too.)
contact20150118a.html (7.3 KB)
can you answered about that?
I apologize for the delay responding to your last post.
First, are the small buttons in my last post OK or are they not satisfactory?
Which two form designs are you debating? Please be specific.
Are you asking which looks better? If yes, thatâs up to you. You are the designer, itâs your choice.
I am not sure that I understand this question. Are you asking about users who use screen readers? or do you have a different concern? Please be specific.
Hi ron!
I apologize for the delay responding to your last post.
I was intended to go to bed anyway 
First, are the small buttons in my last post OK or are they not satisfactory?
yes if there are the original size/buttons
Which two form designs are you debating? Please be specific.
the two designs are
this
and this
I am not sure that I understand this question. Are you asking about users who use screen readers? or do you have a different concern? Please be specific.
no i am asking if Is it convenient forum for users and if you sat so for screen readers i did not think about it
and i have to ask why you did css for the table and the buttons because in my original page i did no do it?
like the page is right now
contact2.html (6.7 KB)
thank you galia
I think that both form designs are convenient for users. The top form gives the user more room to write information, if that is a concern.
⌠and you were not satisfied with your original page.
CSS is necessary. You did not like your original page and wanted it to look different. CSS is the correct way to style the look of a page. Instead of 32 errors, the CSS styled page has none. Did you test the behavor of your table page when you zoom the text size only in Firefox? If that behavior is OK with you, then use your form.
What have we been doing here?
