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	<title>Comments on: How to Block the Advert Blockers</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926861</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO not a good approach for three reasons:
1. Most website owners use some kind of CMS, hacking around in it is usually not a good idea (think: updates).
2. If someone uses an adblocker, s/he effectively makes the statement: I won&#039;t click anyway. Trying to force those people to see banners is a vain attempt for PPC ads.
3. Someone, who does not click on ads may still give backlinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO not a good approach for three reasons:<br />
1. Most website owners use some kind of CMS, hacking around in it is usually not a good idea (think: updates).<br />
2. If someone uses an adblocker, s/he effectively makes the statement: I won&#8217;t click anyway. Trying to force those people to see banners is a vain attempt for PPC ads.<br />
3. Someone, who does not click on ads may still give backlinks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Buckler</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926857</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AutisticCuckoo
Ok, but corporate and public environments tend to have locked-down PCs. Those users won&#039;t be able to enable JS or disable a blocker, so detailed instructions would be useless ... you might as well keep the &lt;em&gt;&quot;rude&quot;&lt;/em&gt; message!

Joking aside, this all leads us to the same conclusion: blocking the blockers is not clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AutisticCuckoo<br />
Ok, but corporate and public environments tend to have locked-down PCs. Those users won&#8217;t be able to enable JS or disable a blocker, so detailed instructions would be useless &#8230; you might as well keep the <em>&#8220;rude&#8221;</em> message!</p>
<p>Joking aside, this all leads us to the same conclusion: blocking the blockers is not clever.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AutisticCuckoo</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926846</link>
		<dc:creator>AutisticCuckoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But what makes you think ad-blocking users are non-savvy?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I didn&#039;t say ad-blocking users are non-savvy. But it&#039;s not impossible that non-savvy people use ad blocking. Perhaps a more savvy friend or relative installed it for them? Perhaps the company IT department did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But what makes you think ad-blocking users are non-savvy?</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say ad-blocking users are non-savvy. But it&#8217;s not impossible that non-savvy people use ad blocking. Perhaps a more savvy friend or relative installed it for them? Perhaps the company IT department did?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Buckler</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926799</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AutisticCuckoo
&lt;blockquote&gt;You are not providing alternate content, you’re just providing a rude message which many non-savvy users wouldn&#039;t even understand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hold on there! Website owners can use whatever text they like ... they could provide highly detailed instructions, or even a summary of the premium content the user&#039;s missing. The example above is brief - because it&#039;s an example!

But what makes you think ad-blocking users are non-savvy? Could a novice install Firefox and AdBlock then add regex rules? It also takes a little knowledge to disable JavaScript and doing so blocks many adverts too.

My point is: yes you can block the blockers, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/11/blocking-ad-blockers-will-fail/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you will cause accessibility issues and harm your business&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AutisticCuckoo</p>
<blockquote><p>You are not providing alternate content, you’re just providing a rude message which many non-savvy users wouldn&#8217;t even understand.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hold on there! Website owners can use whatever text they like &#8230; they could provide highly detailed instructions, or even a summary of the premium content the user&#8217;s missing. The example above is brief &#8211; because it&#8217;s an example!</p>
<p>But what makes you think ad-blocking users are non-savvy? Could a novice install Firefox and AdBlock then add regex rules? It also takes a little knowledge to disable JavaScript and doing so blocks many adverts too.</p>
<p>My point is: yes you can block the blockers, but <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/11/blocking-ad-blockers-will-fail/" rel="nofollow">you will cause accessibility issues and harm your business</a>&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shady Aidy</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926797</link>
		<dc:creator>Shady Aidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would in this situation produce &#039;premium content&#039; in such a way that e.g. premium images get blocked. The user can still read the article I&#039;ve produced but won&#039;t get the really nice high res piccys - maybe modify this approach so that they only get a grainy low-res image instead?
I stand on both sides of the fence here - I don&#039;t use adblockers directly because I don&#039;t agree with them, but I do add an entry to my hosts file in order to block ads that either give me Javascript pop-up errors (in IE - poorly coded JS powered adverts popping up debug alerts all over the place p!$$ me off more than annoying adverts - and don&#039;t tell me to use FF, browser zealots - it&#039;s MY choice, I&#039;m comfortable with it and like it. I use FF for testing and development only) or induce migraines.
I know that adblockers have &#039;exceptions&#039;, but, not having any imperative data at hand to go on, I would rely on the good old human psyche to tell me that the average user who uses an adblocker will rarely, if ever, grant an exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would in this situation produce &#8216;premium content&#8217; in such a way that e.g. premium images get blocked. The user can still read the article I&#8217;ve produced but won&#8217;t get the really nice high res piccys &#8211; maybe modify this approach so that they only get a grainy low-res image instead?<br />
I stand on both sides of the fence here &#8211; I don&#8217;t use adblockers directly because I don&#8217;t agree with them, but I do add an entry to my hosts file in order to block ads that either give me Javascript pop-up errors (in IE &#8211; poorly coded JS powered adverts popping up debug alerts all over the place p!$$ me off more than annoying adverts &#8211; and don&#8217;t tell me to use FF, browser zealots &#8211; it&#8217;s MY choice, I&#8217;m comfortable with it and like it. I use FF for testing and development only) or induce migraines.<br />
I know that adblockers have &#8216;exceptions&#8217;, but, not having any imperative data at hand to go on, I would rely on the good old human psyche to tell me that the average user who uses an adblocker will rarely, if ever, grant an exception.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AutisticCuckoo</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926791</link>
		<dc:creator>AutisticCuckoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; providing alternate content, you&#039;re just providing a rude message which many non-savvy users wouldn&#039;t even understand.

And you&#039;re not telling the user how to fix the problem, if that user is unable to enable JavaScript. For instance, using a public computer in a library, or in a corporate environment where scripting is disabled centrally or blocked by a firewall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are <em>not</em> providing alternate content, you&#8217;re just providing a rude message which many non-savvy users wouldn&#8217;t even understand.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re not telling the user how to fix the problem, if that user is unable to enable JavaScript. For instance, using a public computer in a library, or in a corporate environment where scripting is disabled centrally or blocked by a firewall.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Buckler</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926789</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SpacePhoenix
&lt;blockquote&gt;Could the technique described be classed as cloaking...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s an interesting thought. IMHO, I wouldn&#039;t have thought so - most people and search engines will see the page as you intended. Only those modifying the page themselves - via AdBlock or disabling JS - would have a different experience.

Strictly speaking, I doubt it&#039;s breaking accessibility laws either (they&#039;re not that specific). You&#039;re only preventing access for &quot;unsupported&quot; browsers and providing alternative content telling the user how to fix the problem.

That said, it goes against the &lt;em&gt;spirit&lt;/em&gt; of accessibility. If you want to hide premium content, then make people register or pay for it. That&#039;s a far better overall solution than content blocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SpacePhoenix</p>
<blockquote><p>Could the technique described be classed as cloaking&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting thought. IMHO, I wouldn&#8217;t have thought so &#8211; most people and search engines will see the page as you intended. Only those modifying the page themselves &#8211; via AdBlock or disabling JS &#8211; would have a different experience.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, I doubt it&#8217;s breaking accessibility laws either (they&#8217;re not that specific). You&#8217;re only preventing access for &#8220;unsupported&#8221; browsers and providing alternative content telling the user how to fix the problem.</p>
<p>That said, it goes against the <em>spirit</em> of accessibility. If you want to hide premium content, then make people register or pay for it. That&#8217;s a far better overall solution than content blocking.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SpacePhoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926767</link>
		<dc:creator>SpacePhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could the technique described be classed as cloaking, which if I remember correctly will get a site banned from search engines. If a site gets banned from search engines, it won&#039;t get found very much and the sites revenue would then drop a lot more.

Also anyone who uses the noscript FireFox add-on would not see the content. If the technique breaks accessibility then the site could perhaps fall foul of accessability laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the technique described be classed as cloaking, which if I remember correctly will get a site banned from search engines. If a site gets banned from search engines, it won&#8217;t get found very much and the sites revenue would then drop a lot more.</p>
<p>Also anyone who uses the noscript FireFox add-on would not see the content. If the technique breaks accessibility then the site could perhaps fall foul of accessability laws.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig Buckler</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926764</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Buckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You could have made them by integrating it into this one but you didn&#039;t!?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was originally, but it became far too long and had too many points. Anyway, it&#039;s now available - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/11/blocking-ad-blockers-will-fail/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read Why Blocking Ad Blockers Will Fail&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You could have made them by integrating it into this one but you didn&#8217;t!?</p></blockquote>
<p>It was originally, but it became far too long and had too many points. Anyway, it&#8217;s now available &#8211; <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/11/blocking-ad-blockers-will-fail/" rel="nofollow">read Why Blocking Ad Blockers Will Fail</a>&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NetNerd85</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/06/10/block-ad-blockers/comment-page-1/#comment-926759</link>
		<dc:creator>NetNerd85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hopefully they’ll also read the next post...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You could have made them by integrating it into this one but you didn&#039;t!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hopefully they’ll also read the next post&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>You could have made them by integrating it into this one but you didn&#8217;t!?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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