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	<title>Comments on: Most People Still Won&#8217;t Pay for Ad-free Content, Would You?</title>
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		<title>By: Stevie D</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/12/09/most-people-still-wont-pay-for-ad-free-content-would-you/comment-page-1/#comment-846470</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevie D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless your site offers a completely unique service that can&#039;t be found anywhere else on the internet (which is pretty unusual), or is a zillion times better than all the other sites out there (which again is pretty unusual), you&#039;ll be very lucky if you make any money out of ad-free subscriptions.

People have got used to finding all the information they want on the web for free, and have been habituated into ignoring ads. With popup blockers available on almost every browser, and content blockers on the better ones, the only ads that some people will even see on sites they use regularly will be unobtrusive text ads, and very few people seem to mind these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless your site offers a completely unique service that can&#8217;t be found anywhere else on the internet (which is pretty unusual), or is a zillion times better than all the other sites out there (which again is pretty unusual), you&#8217;ll be very lucky if you make any money out of ad-free subscriptions.</p>
<p>People have got used to finding all the information they want on the web for free, and have been habituated into ignoring ads. With popup blockers available on almost every browser, and content blockers on the better ones, the only ads that some people will even see on sites they use regularly will be unobtrusive text ads, and very few people seem to mind these.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sinthux</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinthux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real question is; What price are people willing to pay for ad-free content? Certainly not any more than just a few dollars a month, if that. As most people have stated above, it&#039;s just not worth it. They&#039;ll just turn the other way if the ads are causing them an annoyance (which youtube and myspace seem to be doing as of late).

I, like many people, have become desensitized to advertisements and simply ignore them, unless they&#039;re very well designed or offer something I&#039;m looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real question is; What price are people willing to pay for ad-free content? Certainly not any more than just a few dollars a month, if that. As most people have stated above, it&#8217;s just not worth it. They&#8217;ll just turn the other way if the ads are causing them an annoyance (which youtube and myspace seem to be doing as of late).</p>
<p>I, like many people, have become desensitized to advertisements and simply ignore them, unless they&#8217;re very well designed or offer something I&#8217;m looking for.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Web Commonman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Commonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think humans are given enough brain to avoid the ads and just pick the free content that is of use from any website. I wouldn&#039;t pay even if I need to scroll a web page down past the ads for 10 minutes before hitting useful content.!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think humans are given enough brain to avoid the ads and just pick the free content that is of use from any website. I wouldn&#8217;t pay even if I need to scroll a web page down past the ads for 10 minutes before hitting useful content.!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sitehatchery</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/12/09/most-people-still-wont-pay-for-ad-free-content-would-you/comment-page-1/#comment-846207</link>
		<dc:creator>sitehatchery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the reference for the AdAge survey, there&#039;s no mention of this survey having taken place over the weekend. It doesn&#039;t say when they ran the survey, for how long, to which target group, or how many people were asked. It only says, &quot;we asked consumers&quot;. 

I don&#039;t think this article from AdAge is a reliable reference to support your position. I don&#039;t have any argument otherwise, except that, it&#039;s not in the best interest of any website to publish that a high percentage of people using the site won&#039;t ever see ads. Few people would be inclined to advertise on their site. Also, those who don&#039;t like the ads might leave before they give the website a chance - meaning that the majority of people using the site are already comfortable seeing ads. So, it&#039;s probably not affective to poll only the small subset of people using the particular ad-filtrated site that is offering the ad-free version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the reference for the AdAge survey, there&#8217;s no mention of this survey having taken place over the weekend. It doesn&#8217;t say when they ran the survey, for how long, to which target group, or how many people were asked. It only says, &#8220;we asked consumers&#8221;. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this article from AdAge is a reliable reference to support your position. I don&#8217;t have any argument otherwise, except that, it&#8217;s not in the best interest of any website to publish that a high percentage of people using the site won&#8217;t ever see ads. Few people would be inclined to advertise on their site. Also, those who don&#8217;t like the ads might leave before they give the website a chance &#8211; meaning that the majority of people using the site are already comfortable seeing ads. So, it&#8217;s probably not affective to poll only the small subset of people using the particular ad-filtrated site that is offering the ad-free version.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ralph Slate</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/12/09/most-people-still-wont-pay-for-ad-free-content-would-you/comment-page-1/#comment-846135</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Slate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the subscription rates desired, to date, have been overly excessive. There was a blog that I really enjoyed, the owner put up a &quot;donation&quot; link, but the lowest donation was $10/month. It was a good blog, but not worth $10/month to me.

I have said this for several years: micropayments would be key to monetizing websites. If I could get 5 cents per month from every unique visitor to my site, I would make enough money to work on it full-time. In fact, I&#039;d currently even take 2.5 cents per unique. 

How many websites do people actually use in a given month? 100? 500 for more advanced users? At 5 cents, the decision becomes a non-decision. 

A lesson I learned while working for a dollar store (at corporate) is that when something is a buck, people don&#039;t even think twice about buying it. Once it goes to $5, it can be the best deal in the world, a person&#039;s &quot;decision hat&quot; comes on and they don&#039;t make the purchase. But if it&#039;s a buck, they buy it.

I think this will have to come about eventually. Look at the content sites out there. They are not being developed like they used to. Why? Because people don&#039;t see the pot of gold. Sure, there are a lot of free sites, but very few free sites exist for long without their owners getting something from them, and when sites start getting popular, remember, hosting can become a significant expense, running thousands per year. Not many people will shell out thousands to work for no pay.

I suppose that once people have a mechanism to pay 5 cents per month to access a website, they might be amenable to paying higher amounts for more valuable content, or perhaps pay for a shorter period of time (5 cents a day?). 

Certainly no one will like paying, no one will volunteer to pay, but if done right, I think that people can be made to pay because there is most definitely value in what is being offered. The key is the ability to charge a very small amount, one that people won&#039;t walk away over.

If your favorite restaurant raised its prices by 1 cent, would you stop going? If your favorite website charged you 1 penny per day, would you stop reading it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the subscription rates desired, to date, have been overly excessive. There was a blog that I really enjoyed, the owner put up a &#8220;donation&#8221; link, but the lowest donation was $10/month. It was a good blog, but not worth $10/month to me.</p>
<p>I have said this for several years: micropayments would be key to monetizing websites. If I could get 5 cents per month from every unique visitor to my site, I would make enough money to work on it full-time. In fact, I&#8217;d currently even take 2.5 cents per unique. </p>
<p>How many websites do people actually use in a given month? 100? 500 for more advanced users? At 5 cents, the decision becomes a non-decision. </p>
<p>A lesson I learned while working for a dollar store (at corporate) is that when something is a buck, people don&#8217;t even think twice about buying it. Once it goes to $5, it can be the best deal in the world, a person&#8217;s &#8220;decision hat&#8221; comes on and they don&#8217;t make the purchase. But if it&#8217;s a buck, they buy it.</p>
<p>I think this will have to come about eventually. Look at the content sites out there. They are not being developed like they used to. Why? Because people don&#8217;t see the pot of gold. Sure, there are a lot of free sites, but very few free sites exist for long without their owners getting something from them, and when sites start getting popular, remember, hosting can become a significant expense, running thousands per year. Not many people will shell out thousands to work for no pay.</p>
<p>I suppose that once people have a mechanism to pay 5 cents per month to access a website, they might be amenable to paying higher amounts for more valuable content, or perhaps pay for a shorter period of time (5 cents a day?). </p>
<p>Certainly no one will like paying, no one will volunteer to pay, but if done right, I think that people can be made to pay because there is most definitely value in what is being offered. The key is the ability to charge a very small amount, one that people won&#8217;t walk away over.</p>
<p>If your favorite restaurant raised its prices by 1 cent, would you stop going? If your favorite website charged you 1 penny per day, would you stop reading it?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ferrari_chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferrari_chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only paid to remove ads from one site I visit.  And if I think about it, the payment was more to support the site and help it grow rather than to remove the ads specifically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only paid to remove ads from one site I visit.  And if I think about it, the payment was more to support the site and help it grow rather than to remove the ads specifically.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Leon Paternoster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Paternoster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the web, it should be free.

I would never expect people to pay for my content (I couldn&#039;t see anyone wanting to do so anyway!)  The payback I get is interest in my work and the odd enquiry.

Newspapers sell advertising on their websites.  If they&#039;re clever enough, they can maybe get through adblock - if they&#039;re really clever, they can make their advertising good&#8211;looking enough to become an integral part of the site.  After all, no-one objects to ads in print.  Getting over reader resistance to advertising that forces them to look and/or click (pop ups, prominent banners etc.) is the challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the web, it should be free.</p>
<p>I would never expect people to pay for my content (I couldn&#8217;t see anyone wanting to do so anyway!)  The payback I get is interest in my work and the odd enquiry.</p>
<p>Newspapers sell advertising on their websites.  If they&#8217;re clever enough, they can maybe get through adblock &#8211; if they&#8217;re really clever, they can make their advertising good&ndash;looking enough to become an integral part of the site.  After all, no-one objects to ads in print.  Getting over reader resistance to advertising that forces them to look and/or click (pop ups, prominent banners etc.) is the challenge.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tarh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too worried about content producers halting operations because they lose their ad revenue due to those who block ads.  As long as the majority of surfers remain ignorant to the fact that all of the ads could be removed instantly &amp; for free, there will always be money to be made.  Luckily, judging by the number of people still using IE6, there&#039;s plenty of ignorant users waiting to buy from ads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too worried about content producers halting operations because they lose their ad revenue due to those who block ads.  As long as the majority of surfers remain ignorant to the fact that all of the ads could be removed instantly &amp; for free, there will always be money to be made.  Luckily, judging by the number of people still using IE6, there&#8217;s plenty of ignorant users waiting to buy from ads!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: monton</title>
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		<dc:creator>monton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to remember, like TV and radio or conventional print media, if websites are not able to run ads and therefre unable to make money, people won&#039;t spend hours and hours of their time creating webpages. Sure, 8-12 years ago there were people dedicated enough to create websites without expectatation of any revenue and therefore were driven by passion, more than anything. However, expectations have changed. With internet advertising taking hold and booming over the years, if people feel there is no money to be made now, they won&#039;t create sites. Why spend hours creating content when you could do something more useful. Some of the people that created sites all those years ago without expecting to earn money, are actually making big bucks now because theuy rank well and some of them have become authority sites. The Internet as a medium wil dominate this century like TV and radio did the last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to remember, like TV and radio or conventional print media, if websites are not able to run ads and therefre unable to make money, people won&#8217;t spend hours and hours of their time creating webpages. Sure, 8-12 years ago there were people dedicated enough to create websites without expectatation of any revenue and therefore were driven by passion, more than anything. However, expectations have changed. With internet advertising taking hold and booming over the years, if people feel there is no money to be made now, they won&#8217;t create sites. Why spend hours creating content when you could do something more useful. Some of the people that created sites all those years ago without expecting to earn money, are actually making big bucks now because theuy rank well and some of them have become authority sites. The Internet as a medium wil dominate this century like TV and radio did the last.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hierophant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hierophant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising on websites doesn&#039;t really bother me unless its blinking lights and noise. So I doubt I would pay just to remove advertising from a site. They would have to offer me a real benefit. I pay for HBO because not having commercials in an uncut movie is a real benefit. 

Not having advertisements on a webpage isn&#039;t a benefit. I actually click on interesting advertisements on websites that I frequent a lot. Either to review products or they to see if they have something I might be interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising on websites doesn&#8217;t really bother me unless its blinking lights and noise. So I doubt I would pay just to remove advertising from a site. They would have to offer me a real benefit. I pay for HBO because not having commercials in an uncut movie is a real benefit. </p>
<p>Not having advertisements on a webpage isn&#8217;t a benefit. I actually click on interesting advertisements on websites that I frequent a lot. Either to review products or they to see if they have something I might be interested in.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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