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	<title>Comments on: Famous Rails Screencast Gets an Update</title>
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		<title>By: Tech Per</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/30/famous-rails-screencast-gets-an-update/comment-page-1/#comment-842249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@orokusaki:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Instead of focusing on making their crap better .... they focus only on trying to dis the competition&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even though I am not such a big fan of Rails as some are, I would say that you are not right on this one. I do think, that they focus on making their stuff work.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Microsoft has been, and probably will always be more successful than Apple&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True, but this does in no way say anything about quality. A lot of Microsoft products are crap, and only have success due to market dominance in formats of data documents and great marketing.

A true indicator on that Rails have done a lot of stuff right, is how nearly every framework and platform has been mimicking them since they became huge. And projects like Grails might even have done a better implementation. They sure did it on a better platform :-)

Said &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techper.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tech Per&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@orokusaki:</p>
<blockquote><p>Instead of focusing on making their crap better &#8230;. they focus only on trying to dis the competition</p></blockquote>
<p>Even though I am not such a big fan of Rails as some are, I would say that you are not right on this one. I do think, that they focus on making their stuff work.</p>
<blockquote><p>Microsoft has been, and probably will always be more successful than Apple</p></blockquote>
<p>True, but this does in no way say anything about quality. A lot of Microsoft products are crap, and only have success due to market dominance in formats of data documents and great marketing.</p>
<p>A true indicator on that Rails have done a lot of stuff right, is how nearly every framework and platform has been mimicking them since they became huge. And projects like Grails might even have done a better implementation. They sure did it on a better platform :-)</p>
<p>Said <a href="http://www.techper.net" rel="nofollow">Tech Per</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/30/famous-rails-screencast-gets-an-update/comment-page-1/#comment-842223</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To respond to orokusaki&#039;s comment... The Rails community as a whole doesn&#039;t dis the competition because they look at it from the perspective that the productivity gains that the Rails framework provides gives them a competitive advantage. If the Ruby language and ORM systems like ActiveRecord didn&#039;t attract developers, then way is Microsoft spending so much time working on IronRuby and building their updated .NET MVC - which in my option is very Rails like. CakePHP, Symfony, and all the other various frameworks out there are trying to achieve a similar productivity benefit that Ruby/Rails developers are seeing - because it makes developers happier. Your comment that they aren&#039;t making their product better is just ridiculous... With Rails 2.2 introducing i18n support out of the box, threadsafety, ActiveRecord connection pooling, and improved Ruby 1.9 and JRuby support I can only guess that you are just posting your comment to find something to complain about. This Rails screencast is an awesome improvement over the previous. It touches on topics like TDD, RJS, and shows some of the great benefits of the console. Rails isn&#039;t for everyone, but for those of you that are interested in it... this is a great 15 minutes to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to orokusaki&#8217;s comment&#8230; The Rails community as a whole doesn&#8217;t dis the competition because they look at it from the perspective that the productivity gains that the Rails framework provides gives them a competitive advantage. If the Ruby language and ORM systems like ActiveRecord didn&#8217;t attract developers, then way is Microsoft spending so much time working on IronRuby and building their updated .NET MVC &#8211; which in my option is very Rails like. CakePHP, Symfony, and all the other various frameworks out there are trying to achieve a similar productivity benefit that Ruby/Rails developers are seeing &#8211; because it makes developers happier. Your comment that they aren&#8217;t making their product better is just ridiculous&#8230; With Rails 2.2 introducing i18n support out of the box, threadsafety, ActiveRecord connection pooling, and improved Ruby 1.9 and JRuby support I can only guess that you are just posting your comment to find something to complain about. This Rails screencast is an awesome improvement over the previous. It touches on topics like TDD, RJS, and shows some of the great benefits of the console. Rails isn&#8217;t for everyone, but for those of you that are interested in it&#8230; this is a great 15 minutes to spend.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: orokusaki</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/30/famous-rails-screencast-gets-an-update/comment-page-1/#comment-842153</link>
		<dc:creator>orokusaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RoR is like Apple - Instead of focusing on making their crap better (My IPhone 3G crashes every day multiple times), they focus only on trying to dis the competition. Do I need to remind everyone that Microsoft has been, and probably will always be more successful than Apple, which is why Bill Gates is the riches man in the world.

Another thing they do that is FAIL is making people want to work with them. The IPhone&#039;s AppStore is the exception, and it is only because of consumers that the AppStore is successful. A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoR is like Apple &#8211; Instead of focusing on making their crap better (My IPhone 3G crashes every day multiple times), they focus only on trying to dis the competition. Do I need to remind everyone that Microsoft has been, and probably will always be more successful than Apple, which is why Bill Gates is the riches man in the world.</p>
<p>Another thing they do that is FAIL is making people want to work with them. The IPhone&#8217;s AppStore is the exception, and it is only because of consumers that the AppStore is successful. A</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/30/famous-rails-screencast-gets-an-update/comment-page-1/#comment-841705</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really a shame that they didn&#039;t release the source code with the screencast; it&#039;d be a lot easier to follow along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really a shame that they didn&#8217;t release the source code with the screencast; it&#8217;d be a lot easier to follow along.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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