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	<title>Comments on: Poll: Should You Retire the Word &#8220;Freelancer?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: TKD</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/13/poll-should-you-retire-the-word-freelancer/comment-page-1/#comment-831396</link>
		<dc:creator>TKD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t have time to read all the comments but I&#039;ll write my view of &#039;freelancing&#039;: I&#039;m currently a student in my first year in web design &amp; development. Altough I have experience in PHP, MySQL, XHTML, CSS and some others ... it is hard to get a big project because usually I&#039;m working on my own. In contrast, when somebody get&#039;s a company to do a project, of course it will get done better and probably faster (as there is a team of people working there, each specialized in one area: design, development, marketing, etc).

I believe the advantage of hiring a freelancer is when somebody wants a smaller project. However, I don&#039;t think freelancers should get payed less. (That&#039;s directly related to the work, of course).

There are also really talented people out there who manage to work on large scale projects on their own and still call themselves freelancers because they haven&#039;t started their own business or didn&#039;t get a job in the industry because they did not wanted to.

Still ... I&#039;m a student, I definitely need the money I get out of freelance projects. But what I&#039;m aiming for is to become a professional and get a proper job in the industry after I graduate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t have time to read all the comments but I&#8217;ll write my view of &#8216;freelancing&#8217;: I&#8217;m currently a student in my first year in web design &amp; development. Altough I have experience in PHP, MySQL, XHTML, CSS and some others &#8230; it is hard to get a big project because usually I&#8217;m working on my own. In contrast, when somebody get&#8217;s a company to do a project, of course it will get done better and probably faster (as there is a team of people working there, each specialized in one area: design, development, marketing, etc).</p>
<p>I believe the advantage of hiring a freelancer is when somebody wants a smaller project. However, I don&#8217;t think freelancers should get payed less. (That&#8217;s directly related to the work, of course).</p>
<p>There are also really talented people out there who manage to work on large scale projects on their own and still call themselves freelancers because they haven&#8217;t started their own business or didn&#8217;t get a job in the industry because they did not wanted to.</p>
<p>Still &#8230; I&#8217;m a student, I definitely need the money I get out of freelance projects. But what I&#8217;m aiming for is to become a professional and get a proper job in the industry after I graduate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sagewing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arron, when you mention that your article was &quot;written for my target market, designers that are just breaking into the freelance world&quot; then things make a bit more sense. Then again, is it surprising that freelancers who are just starting off are finding it hard to build their reputations? 

I wonder if an article that was targeted towards established, successful freelancers could have been quite the opposite. Those freelancers might say that despite the fact that freelancers have a tough time building credibility, it can be done and there is nothing stopping an individual from becoming a respected and in demand freelancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arron, when you mention that your article was &#8220;written for my target market, designers that are just breaking into the freelance world&#8221; then things make a bit more sense. Then again, is it surprising that freelancers who are just starting off are finding it hard to build their reputations? </p>
<p>I wonder if an article that was targeted towards established, successful freelancers could have been quite the opposite. Those freelancers might say that despite the fact that freelancers have a tough time building credibility, it can be done and there is nothing stopping an individual from becoming a respected and in demand freelancer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Swaraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swaraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really this statement is baseless. Because any professional who is delivering things at his own responsibility that is absolute freelance. 

And a freelancer can make his own company, because he can experience the real phase of professionalism. 

If this is not sufficient to accept my vote, then please visit any popular freelance job portal, there you can see feedback of clients for individual freelancers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really this statement is baseless. Because any professional who is delivering things at his own responsibility that is absolute freelance. </p>
<p>And a freelancer can make his own company, because he can experience the real phase of professionalism. </p>
<p>If this is not sufficient to accept my vote, then please visit any popular freelance job portal, there you can see feedback of clients for individual freelancers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Arron Lock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arron Lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote the article that this is based upon at arronlock.com. I think it is interesting to read the comments here. It is blatantly obvious that the majority calling this topic a &quot;lie&quot; or &quot;bogus&quot; either didn&#039;t bother reading the entire article or are too blinded by their own self righteousness to actually consider the topic.&lt;code&gt;&lt;/code&gt;

Many of my colleagues have dealt with this issue at some point or another. I have dealt with it as well. The article was written for my target market, designers that are just breaking into the freelance world. If you haven&#039;t dealt with this kind of prejudice then I am extremely happy for you. Many of us have. It can be based on geographic location and the type of business people in that area. Not all areas, especially ones with high population of creative professionals, are going to have this problem. I wrote this article based on my personal experienced of being a FREELANCER for nearly six years in a smaller town that seriously lack creative services. &lt;code&gt;&lt;/code&gt;

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion but be fair. Just because you haven&#039;t personally dealt with the issue does not make it a lie. If you have not had cancer, is it a lie? Thank you to all of you who actually read the article and comprehended it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the article that this is based upon at arronlock.com. I think it is interesting to read the comments here. It is blatantly obvious that the majority calling this topic a &#8220;lie&#8221; or &#8220;bogus&#8221; either didn&#8217;t bother reading the entire article or are too blinded by their own self righteousness to actually consider the topic.<code></code></p>
<p>Many of my colleagues have dealt with this issue at some point or another. I have dealt with it as well. The article was written for my target market, designers that are just breaking into the freelance world. If you haven&#8217;t dealt with this kind of prejudice then I am extremely happy for you. Many of us have. It can be based on geographic location and the type of business people in that area. Not all areas, especially ones with high population of creative professionals, are going to have this problem. I wrote this article based on my personal experienced of being a FREELANCER for nearly six years in a smaller town that seriously lack creative services. <code></code></p>
<p>Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion but be fair. Just because you haven&#8217;t personally dealt with the issue does not make it a lie. If you have not had cancer, is it a lie? Thank you to all of you who actually read the article and comprehended it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: awasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>awasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Given that the vast majority of so-called “professional” web design companies produce such awful results, I think it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I think I know what you mean but it might be hard to back up as a fact being so-called professional... I&#039;ve got a feeling there is so much garbage on the web because so many entrepreneurial individuals saw the opening and opened up shop whether they had talent or not. Don&#039;t forget anyone who takes money in trade for a service is by definition a professional regardless of whether they call themselves a business or a freelancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Given that the vast majority of so-called “professional” web design companies produce such awful results, I think it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I think I know what you mean but it might be hard to back up as a fact being so-called professional&#8230; I&#8217;ve got a feeling there is so much garbage on the web because so many entrepreneurial individuals saw the opening and opened up shop whether they had talent or not. Don&#8217;t forget anyone who takes money in trade for a service is by definition a professional regardless of whether they call themselves a business or a freelancer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cfaj</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/11/13/poll-should-you-retire-the-word-freelancer/comment-page-1/#comment-826104</link>
		<dc:creator>cfaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the vast majority of so-called &quot;professional&quot; web design companies produce such awful results, I think it&#039;s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the vast majority of so-called &#8220;professional&#8221; web design companies produce such awful results, I think it&#8217;s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I intend to do freelance work once I start a family though I will probably trade using a business name as it sounds more professional. I dont know anyone (in a personal or business environment) who frowns upon the name freelancer. Personally though I think using a business name sounds more successful, professional and trustworthy so, that&#039;s what I&#039;ll do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intend to do freelance work once I start a family though I will probably trade using a business name as it sounds more professional. I dont know anyone (in a personal or business environment) who frowns upon the name freelancer. Personally though I think using a business name sounds more successful, professional and trustworthy so, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: awasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>awasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again to me this perception of freelancers being something less than a &quot;professional&quot; is just downright weird and not reflected at all in the industry up here.

Freelancers up here are well paid professionals who work for various agencies on a per job basis. The ones I know are often offered full-time opportunities along with the extended health, RRSP savings benefits, etc... but they choose freelance because it pays better and provides more flexibility.

It must be different elsewhere because I know quite a few freelancers, we hire some as needed and as far as I know they are well regarded and compensated for their expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again to me this perception of freelancers being something less than a &#8220;professional&#8221; is just downright weird and not reflected at all in the industry up here.</p>
<p>Freelancers up here are well paid professionals who work for various agencies on a per job basis. The ones I know are often offered full-time opportunities along with the extended health, RRSP savings benefits, etc&#8230; but they choose freelance because it pays better and provides more flexibility.</p>
<p>It must be different elsewhere because I know quite a few freelancers, we hire some as needed and as far as I know they are well regarded and compensated for their expertise.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Compumaniac12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Compumaniac12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately, there will always be someone on the bottom who pulls away from your good work. So yes there is a time if your going to go &quot;professional&quot; that you shouldn&#039;t refer to yourself as a freelancer. But the term will always have that baggage for good or bad. Less reliable, but less expensive, thats just how it works...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately, there will always be someone on the bottom who pulls away from your good work. So yes there is a time if your going to go &#8220;professional&#8221; that you shouldn&#8217;t refer to yourself as a freelancer. But the term will always have that baggage for good or bad. Less reliable, but less expensive, thats just how it works&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: L4DD13</title>
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		<dc:creator>L4DD13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I view myself as a freelancer but the term freelancer doesn&#039;t sound too good to me.

Freelancer to me means basically a loose cannon or someone who cannot get to do what they want when in full time employment so they go at it alone.

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Freelancers are amateurs. They’re not as talented as the designers, writers, and programmers who work for major development shops. They’re not as professional, use lower quality tools, and don’t produce the same quality of work. As such, they deserve less pay. Want to save a buck? Hire a freelancer. The work won’t be quite as good, but the cost savings will be immense.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;
Personally I find that downright rude. Why aren&#039;t freelancers as good as professionals.
I&#039;ve met many &#039;professional&#039; web designers and to be frank, they  may have the qualifications, etc but the work is downright pathetic. I&#039;ve only been a webdesigner for 2 years but I have taught people with 10 years plus commercial experience a thing or too and many of them don&#039;t even know what OOP is.

Freelancers are often used by professional companies when they can&#039;t get the work done. I have been contacted numerous times about doing work for &#039;professional&#039; companies. So if there is a bad media for freelancers then why do companies use them. I wonder how many large, popular websites have had a freelancer involved somewhere in the development or maintenance.
However, yes &quot;Freelancer&quot; should be retired. Its a too generic term and frowned upon far too much for my liking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I view myself as a freelancer but the term freelancer doesn&#8217;t sound too good to me.</p>
<p>Freelancer to me means basically a loose cannon or someone who cannot get to do what they want when in full time employment so they go at it alone.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Freelancers are amateurs. They’re not as talented as the designers, writers, and programmers who work for major development shops. They’re not as professional, use lower quality tools, and don’t produce the same quality of work. As such, they deserve less pay. Want to save a buck? Hire a freelancer. The work won’t be quite as good, but the cost savings will be immense.&#8221;</b><br />
Personally I find that downright rude. Why aren&#8217;t freelancers as good as professionals.<br />
I&#8217;ve met many &#8216;professional&#8217; web designers and to be frank, they  may have the qualifications, etc but the work is downright pathetic. I&#8217;ve only been a webdesigner for 2 years but I have taught people with 10 years plus commercial experience a thing or too and many of them don&#8217;t even know what OOP is.</p>
<p>Freelancers are often used by professional companies when they can&#8217;t get the work done. I have been contacted numerous times about doing work for &#8216;professional&#8217; companies. So if there is a bad media for freelancers then why do companies use them. I wonder how many large, popular websites have had a freelancer involved somewhere in the development or maintenance.<br />
However, yes &#8220;Freelancer&#8221; should be retired. Its a too generic term and frowned upon far too much for my liking.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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