Johhny2Bad: The facts: currently hardware is being designed around software when software should be designed around hardware hence the illusion that the OS is boss, but thats half the problem because what we actually have is many manufacturers of hardware AND software hence incompatibility issues which leads to crashing/freezing systems, to solve the problem of incompatibility we have to limit ourselves to one hardware manufacturer and as many OS platforms as u like or vice versa (one OS manufacturer and as many hardware manufacturers as u like) hence the battle for dominance.

This is true and rarely if ever considered by the average computer user. Back in the days before the Windows PC, computers were very hardware specific and the operating system was specific to the chip… A z80 computer used a different disk operating system than an 8080 or an 8085. Commodore 64’s used an OS from Commodore which would work as well on my Commodore 64 as yours because the hardware and software came from the same place.

I think this is something that Apple has considers with their hardware/software products although there are casualties along the way when various hardware pieces become outdated because the OS requires something that is only supported in the new hardware. Mac OS worked up to OS9 with their Power PC G3/G4 products but G3’s ran slow and spotty on anything greater than OS8. The latest OSX is spec’d to work with G4 & G5 computers but to get the most out of it, you better have a dual core Intel system with a whack load of ram. In this way, Apple can ensure that the hardware & software have less trouble than if their OS ran on some generic hardware. That said, I’d still like to hack OSX and run it on my Toshiba Laptop :)

Sorry for going so way off topic but I thought that was an interesting point.

They didn’t want to engage with you because you’re incapable of having a discussion without being rude, condescending, calling people with differing opinions stupid, fabricating “facts” on the fly, etc… I mean to spin that you purposely left out 4 bits as bait. That’s just weak.

So, when you find that people don’t respond to your posts you might think that you’re clever however, it probably means that they have better things to do and just don’t want to invest.

Peace out!

u said “I’m surprised nobody else called you on your 16bit”

they where obviously smart enough to see the bait.

I’m surprised nobody else called you on your 16bit, I’m a low level coder and I know binary rubbish. It could be a collection of 4 bit instructions, it could be an 8 bit operator and a 4 bit operand or a 4 bit operator and an 8 bit operand or it could be a 12 bit instruction… It could be anything but it isn’t 16 bits long.

Now I wasn’t actually trying to rattle your cage but I guess I did.

Vista is a troubled operating system. I’ve given it the old college try several times and even fully patched the Sony Viao dual core with Vista doesn’t feel as responsive as my AMD64 with XP SP3. They both have 2GIG’s of RAM but the Sony should blow circles around the AMD… It doesn’t and all I see from Microsoft is propaganda about why Vista is the #1 choice or how Vista’s adoption rate is higher than all OS’s combined.

 
On the other hand we have several Macs in the office. The latest 24 inch (Imac) running Leopard has 4GIG’s RAM, picked up our wireless network, printer, internet, filesharing, etc… without a glitch. I had the pleasure of setting it up and when I had to go back to my workstation to check some settings I was a little let down with the visuals that my XP workstation possesses. I’ve got a Radeon 9550 with a pair of Samsung SyncMaster 206BW displays, which might not give me good gaming performance but should be more than enough to write code and develop websites yet the system lacks the sparkle that the Mac naturally possesses. OSX is Unix (FreeBSD) which gives it a rugged foundation but it’s the Quartz display layer that really makes it shine.

 
I often have to use Windows to develop on but I’m getting to the point where I may pick up a 24″ Imac, load it up with Ram and virtualize XP on it so I can run Visual Studio. I have an Ubuntu workstation with XP running in Virtual Box and it’s fantastic in this configuration. It may just be a matter of time until I start treating XP or Vista as just another application I run on my workstation.

 
One last thing…. 000100101000 isn’t a 16 bit representation of anything. It’s 12 bits.

thens says

“I prefer Mac. Period.”

I have to put up with this kind of errm…. “contradiction” everyday but hey who the cap fits let them wear it, and if u take offence then obviously the cap fits. i’ve no time to baby people, thats why this ms vs mac argument persists.
The facts: currently hardware is being designed around software when software should be designed around hardware hence the illusion that the OS is boss, but thats half the problem because what we actually have is many manufacturers of hardware AND software hence incompatibility issues which leads to crashing/freezing systems, to solve the problem of incompatibility we have to limit ourselves to one hardware manufacturer and as many OS platforms as u like or vice versa (one OS manufacturer and as many hardware manufacturers as u like) hence the battle for dominance. What Mac are doing to try and solve this problem is screen the hardware that they use hence the limited availability of hardware for mac systems, by doing this they limit the potential for crashes and therefore the OS is cleaner then MS but at the expense of limiting choice of hardware and upgradeability. MS on the other have a more open system hence wider availability of hardware but at the expense of potential incompatibility issues which makes there OS appear to be prone to crashing. As a business what stance would u take because the only argument we as users should be having is do we want to limit hardware choice or OS choice and i know what side of the fence i stand on, i’d rather see more hardware and less OS’s because i overstand that the OS is just an interface between the hardware and the software and the software is the interface between the human user and the hardware via a operating system. So in truth the OS is nothing and will soon disappear when embedded software takes hold because then there will be no need for an OS as the hardware will have the software onboard. so your not only pointlessly arguing about who is best but your actually hindering the progress of computer technology. Let the embedded software revolution begin and forget about the soon to be obsolete OS and watch as computers get faster, more powerful and simply easier to use. PS a bit of humorous sarcasm now… so what was u saying about my outlook????

I would really like to see a penguin in a Mac commercial to make it fair. Kubuntu is straight forward and would give both OS’s a run for the money, or lack of it for the penguin.

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Cheers

I have never made a purchase (or voted for a candidate for that matter) based on a TV commercial. Evidently, some of you have. If you base your decisions on TV commercials, or if your personal psyche is affected by them, you need help.

I have Macs running MS Office and VirtualPC with Windows XP. I use the best of all products. I could care less how ‘evil’ either Microsoft or Apple is, as long as their products work for what I need to get done!

I doubt it.

Seems like a tactic more likely to harden a potential customer against Mac than covert them.