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		<title>By: skoolsonline</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/10/02/oops-there-goes-another-web-site-the-web-is-disappearing/comment-page-1/#comment-818394</link>
		<dc:creator>skoolsonline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i skoolsonline we are basically develop website and also we are using 
JOOMLA ,PHP, and also handling you can also extract lost of thing
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i skoolsonline we are basically develop website and also we are using<br />
JOOMLA ,PHP, and also handling you can also extract lost of thing<br />
so on behafe of skoolsonline i am inviting you watch my site  for<br />
 innovative work</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skoolsonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.skoolsonline.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dorsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While a lot, if not most, of what&#039;s on the net is crap-ola (vanity blogs, porn, outdated catalogs, et al), what remains is likely worth holding on to.  Back in the paper-only era, studies showed that at most 3% of what was being saved was ever needed again.  The problem was that you never knew in advance what that 3% would be.  I&#039;m sure that all of you who are old enough to have maintained a paper filing system are nodding your heads about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a lot, if not most, of what&#8217;s on the net is crap-ola (vanity blogs, porn, outdated catalogs, et al), what remains is likely worth holding on to.  Back in the paper-only era, studies showed that at most 3% of what was being saved was ever needed again.  The problem was that you never knew in advance what that 3% would be.  I&#8217;m sure that all of you who are old enough to have maintained a paper filing system are nodding your heads about now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NetNerd85</title>
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		<dc:creator>NetNerd85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let’s face it, there’s so much rubbish on the net. Why should we want to keep it all anyway?
Many sites content have “graduated” from the web into print.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well said nedlud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s face it, there’s so much rubbish on the net. Why should we want to keep it all anyway?<br />
Many sites content have “graduated” from the web into print.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said nedlud.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Abhay Bakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhay Bakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Catone asks: &quot;150 years from now, will this blog post still exist?&quot;. My response is: who is worried over it? who cares if it doesn&#039;t exist? Worry is something that is not going to take us anywhere. Worry doesn&#039;t last for long, that&#039;s good news.
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My response to the *whole* blog post is: we cannot forget - &quot;energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, it just takes one form from another&quot;. If some good content is being created and posted on the web, it *will* be picked up by those (brains) to whom it is most applicable AND *will also* be retained by them in one form or another!!
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The other law that we should not forget about is: &quot;the law of sowing and reaping&quot;. Whatever you sow, you reap it, now or later. Whatever goes around comes around.
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Lastly, the best news is - the human has made progress in the whole process, and so has the Universe. Who is worried? Can we focus on our task at hand for today instead? &quot;The Web Is Disappearing&quot; - I am confident it is not. I am sorry. (Nothing personal against Josh Catone)
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Reference:
http://www.dzone.com/links/oops_there_goes_another_web_site_the_web_is_disap.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Catone asks: &#8220;150 years from now, will this blog post still exist?&#8221;. My response is: who is worried over it? who cares if it doesn&#8217;t exist? Worry is something that is not going to take us anywhere. Worry doesn&#8217;t last for long, that&#8217;s good news.<br />
*</p>
<p>My response to the *whole* blog post is: we cannot forget &#8211; &#8220;energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, it just takes one form from another&#8221;. If some good content is being created and posted on the web, it *will* be picked up by those (brains) to whom it is most applicable AND *will also* be retained by them in one form or another!!<br />
*</p>
<p>The other law that we should not forget about is: &#8220;the law of sowing and reaping&#8221;. Whatever you sow, you reap it, now or later. Whatever goes around comes around.<br />
*</p>
<p>Lastly, the best news is &#8211; the human has made progress in the whole process, and so has the Universe. Who is worried? Can we focus on our task at hand for today instead? &#8220;The Web Is Disappearing&#8221; &#8211; I am confident it is not. I am sorry. (Nothing personal against Josh Catone)<br />
*</p>
<p>Reference:<br />
<a href="http://www.dzone.com/links/oops_there_goes_another_web_site_the_web_is_disap.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dzone.com/links/oops_there_goes_another_web_site_the_web_is_disap.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nevillef</title>
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		<dc:creator>nevillef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh,
A lot of information on the Web has a limited useful lifetime, for example camera of mobile phone reviews. The shelf life of these products is so short that it is unlikely anyone would be interested in them a few years down the track. 

But there is a lot of content which is far more useful, and which in the ideal world would stay accessible for a long time. 

But sadly this is only too often not the case. And even with the likes of Google it can be difficult to &lt;em&gt;re-find&lt;/em&gt; content you know you&#039;ve found in the past, assuming it still exists. 

A solution is to take control of content that is important to you by saving it to your PC. There are a several programs that do this such as the Scrapbook Firefox Extension and our product &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surfulater.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Surfulater&lt;/a&gt;.

Neville</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,<br />
A lot of information on the Web has a limited useful lifetime, for example camera of mobile phone reviews. The shelf life of these products is so short that it is unlikely anyone would be interested in them a few years down the track. </p>
<p>But there is a lot of content which is far more useful, and which in the ideal world would stay accessible for a long time. </p>
<p>But sadly this is only too often not the case. And even with the likes of Google it can be difficult to <em>re-find</em> content you know you&#8217;ve found in the past, assuming it still exists. </p>
<p>A solution is to take control of content that is important to you by saving it to your PC. There are a several programs that do this such as the Scrapbook Firefox Extension and our product <a href="http://www.surfulater.com" rel="nofollow">Surfulater</a>.</p>
<p>Neville</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: skunkbad</title>
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		<dc:creator>skunkbad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if the size of the Google cache really means anything. Google might have just come up with better ways of filtering (and not caching) a lot of junk/spam sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the size of the Google cache really means anything. Google might have just come up with better ways of filtering (and not caching) a lot of junk/spam sites.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Geeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes I&#039;m with recycle all unwanted articles &amp; data but for sure archiving them is the main idea of making the web history. I believe that one day students in college or people out there will hit the search engines to search about the web in our time and how it used to be now, what we were thinking of, what we used &amp; how we communicate together, which services came first &amp; what&#039;s after..many many things that should be archived for the history of the web :)

PS. not talking about personal blogs, hi/bye tweets etc of course am talking about the useful information over there in the cloud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes I&#8217;m with recycle all unwanted articles &amp; data but for sure archiving them is the main idea of making the web history. I believe that one day students in college or people out there will hit the search engines to search about the web in our time and how it used to be now, what we were thinking of, what we used &amp; how we communicate together, which services came first &amp; what&#8217;s after..many many things that should be archived for the history of the web :)</p>
<p>PS. not talking about personal blogs, hi/bye tweets etc of course am talking about the useful information over there in the cloud</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sean Tierney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, 
I&#039;d agree with the sentiments expressed that we don&#039;t have to preserve _everything_ created.  It&#039;s almost like hoarding possessions in your house- every one you keep dilutes the value of your existing collection because it makes the truly interesting ones harder to find.   
*

So if the problem can be broken into two components: #1 filtering out the crap and #2 preserving the data created,  I&#039;d say things like akismet, the pagerank algorithm, relying on a trusted authorities to distill info on a certain space and the discovery aspects of social bookmarking sites are helping us deal with #1 adequately.  #2 has an interesting &quot;thermostat&quot; effect working in its favor in that people are more likely to protect  valuable info so for instance, I&#039;ve put a lot of time into writing what I believe are useful posts on my blog over the past 3 years. You can believe that I&#039;ve taken precautions to backup the writings that I&#039;ve labored hard to produce.  
*

So #2 should actually help with #1 in that the less valuable data will die off as people fail to protect it (i&#039;ve let sites go that sucked and I&#039;ve revived sites that went down because they&#039;re worthy of preserving).  What survives should be the cream of the crop mixed in with the inevitable spam, but hopefully our spam-fighting technology will stay one step ahead in the arms race.
*

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,<br />
I&#8217;d agree with the sentiments expressed that we don&#8217;t have to preserve _everything_ created.  It&#8217;s almost like hoarding possessions in your house- every one you keep dilutes the value of your existing collection because it makes the truly interesting ones harder to find.<br />
*</p>
<p>So if the problem can be broken into two components: #1 filtering out the crap and #2 preserving the data created,  I&#8217;d say things like akismet, the pagerank algorithm, relying on a trusted authorities to distill info on a certain space and the discovery aspects of social bookmarking sites are helping us deal with #1 adequately.  #2 has an interesting &#8220;thermostat&#8221; effect working in its favor in that people are more likely to protect  valuable info so for instance, I&#8217;ve put a lot of time into writing what I believe are useful posts on my blog over the past 3 years. You can believe that I&#8217;ve taken precautions to backup the writings that I&#8217;ve labored hard to produce.<br />
*</p>
<p>So #2 should actually help with #1 in that the less valuable data will die off as people fail to protect it (i&#8217;ve let sites go that sucked and I&#8217;ve revived sites that went down because they&#8217;re worthy of preserving).  What survives should be the cream of the crop mixed in with the inevitable spam, but hopefully our spam-fighting technology will stay one step ahead in the arms race.<br />
*</p>
<p>Sean</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ferrari_chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferrari_chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder how I will keep track of sites/pages that I link to on my site.

It looks bad when a link is broken - even if it is in an article I posted a couple of years earlier.

Maybe I should make a page where I can track and monitor all the external links I use...

Does anyone else think about this for their sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder how I will keep track of sites/pages that I link to on my site.</p>
<p>It looks bad when a link is broken &#8211; even if it is in an article I posted a couple of years earlier.</p>
<p>Maybe I should make a page where I can track and monitor all the external links I use&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone else think about this for their sites?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Pratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This process of losing the web happens quicker than many of us think. I&#039;ve seen blog posts created within the last year chalk up 404&#039;s when I finally stumble upon them in Google search results. In those cases, Google keeping a cache has been invaluable, as I can still get the information I was looking for.

However, it really doesn&#039;t make sense to keep a cache of everything ever created for all time. There&#039;s a lot of garbage out there. There is, though, a mechanism for creative caching already in place. Just use bookmarking and other site recommendation services already out there to sift the wheat versus the chaff. This isn&#039;t a 100% fool-proof, but for the most part, it would ensure that the most important information does it saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This process of losing the web happens quicker than many of us think. I&#8217;ve seen blog posts created within the last year chalk up 404&#8217;s when I finally stumble upon them in Google search results. In those cases, Google keeping a cache has been invaluable, as I can still get the information I was looking for.</p>
<p>However, it really doesn&#8217;t make sense to keep a cache of everything ever created for all time. There&#8217;s a lot of garbage out there. There is, though, a mechanism for creative caching already in place. Just use bookmarking and other site recommendation services already out there to sift the wheat versus the chaff. This isn&#8217;t a 100% fool-proof, but for the most part, it would ensure that the most important information does it saved.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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