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	<title>Comments on: Is It Time to Ditch IE6?</title>
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		<title>By: gold coast website design</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-880943</link>
		<dc:creator>gold coast website design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a last issue due to the horrific html and css rendering of IE6 some pages does not look pretty in IE7. Therefore some companies won’t upgrade since they would break their intranet of other web applications with an upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a last issue due to the horrific html and css rendering of IE6 some pages does not look pretty in IE7. Therefore some companies won’t upgrade since they would break their intranet of other web applications with an upgrade.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BlueBoden</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-861423</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueBoden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had my share of IE6 Problems, and i run a major site with Tutorials and References for Web Designers, found at www.brugbart.com.

I would advice everyone to stop supporting IE6, and/or other older browsers for that matter. I would say that its a very unprofessional decision to support older browsers on out part, there might be unique cases where it would be needed, but i actually can&#039;t think of any.


We as Web Designers need to teach our users how important it is to upgrade their browser, just as they would upgrade any other software on their computer.

While XP is supported for some time still, i would say that its more then safe to start telling people to upgrade. We have had a bad start as web designers, with poor support for web standards, it has been pure guesswork how to get something to work at times.

Finally the browsers are beginning to catch up, and we really need to get people to upgrade their browsers as fast as possible, and change the general understanding that we should keep supporting browsers whos useful life ended years ago.

I will continiue to tell people to stop supporting older browsers, and that will also be the message on my website, i really hope that more of you will do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had my share of IE6 Problems, and i run a major site with Tutorials and References for Web Designers, found at <a href="http://www.brugbart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.brugbart.com</a>.</p>
<p>I would advice everyone to stop supporting IE6, and/or other older browsers for that matter. I would say that its a very unprofessional decision to support older browsers on out part, there might be unique cases where it would be needed, but i actually can&#8217;t think of any.</p>
<p>We as Web Designers need to teach our users how important it is to upgrade their browser, just as they would upgrade any other software on their computer.</p>
<p>While XP is supported for some time still, i would say that its more then safe to start telling people to upgrade. We have had a bad start as web designers, with poor support for web standards, it has been pure guesswork how to get something to work at times.</p>
<p>Finally the browsers are beginning to catch up, and we really need to get people to upgrade their browsers as fast as possible, and change the general understanding that we should keep supporting browsers whos useful life ended years ago.</p>
<p>I will continiue to tell people to stop supporting older browsers, and that will also be the message on my website, i really hope that more of you will do the same.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: techachino.com</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-835751</link>
		<dc:creator>techachino.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who voted no obviously have not had to try and make any half decent site work in that blasted browser...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who voted no obviously have not had to try and make any half decent site work in that blasted browser&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Griever, Web developer</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-822782</link>
		<dc:creator>Griever, Web developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, i&#039;d love to see IE 6 burn.
This is not because it&#039;s old.
It&#039;s because it proves a risk to the user, and in turn can harm a company.
Why support a browser that invites attacks and promotes bugs.
I know corporate busnisses do not want to update because their intranet wouldn&#039;t work correctly.

Develop a new intranet is what I&#039;d say.
Now some might say, that that will cost a company to much money.
But seriously, IE 6 is old, ancient in internet age.
Updating the itnranet provides the company with a more interactive and faster intranet, cleaner code and better support.

Sure a lot of coding will come along, but the time saved that would&#039;ve been spend making it IE 6 complient, would not exist, and be saved on the costs, or if the company really wishes to go the extra mile, that time and money could be used to improve the intranet even more.

And let&#039;s not forget the user, if we make websites work in IE 6, we promote it, and thusly we tell the user that it&#039;s ok to use it, while in fact it endangers their system.

IE 6 is a browser that should disapear.
It will save companies money that would&#039;ve otherwise been spend on IE 6 support.
It will save companies time.
It will make life easier for web developers, allowing us developers to actually improve things, rather than fix things.

It will improve speed on website, as there&#039;s less code to be used.

Besides, an intranet that still depends on IE 6, sounds like a out dated intranet, that could really improve if some time and money would&#039;ve been spend on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, i&#8217;d love to see IE 6 burn.<br />
This is not because it&#8217;s old.<br />
It&#8217;s because it proves a risk to the user, and in turn can harm a company.<br />
Why support a browser that invites attacks and promotes bugs.<br />
I know corporate busnisses do not want to update because their intranet wouldn&#8217;t work correctly.</p>
<p>Develop a new intranet is what I&#8217;d say.<br />
Now some might say, that that will cost a company to much money.<br />
But seriously, IE 6 is old, ancient in internet age.<br />
Updating the itnranet provides the company with a more interactive and faster intranet, cleaner code and better support.</p>
<p>Sure a lot of coding will come along, but the time saved that would&#8217;ve been spend making it IE 6 complient, would not exist, and be saved on the costs, or if the company really wishes to go the extra mile, that time and money could be used to improve the intranet even more.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the user, if we make websites work in IE 6, we promote it, and thusly we tell the user that it&#8217;s ok to use it, while in fact it endangers their system.</p>
<p>IE 6 is a browser that should disapear.<br />
It will save companies money that would&#8217;ve otherwise been spend on IE 6 support.<br />
It will save companies time.<br />
It will make life easier for web developers, allowing us developers to actually improve things, rather than fix things.</p>
<p>It will improve speed on website, as there&#8217;s less code to be used.</p>
<p>Besides, an intranet that still depends on IE 6, sounds like a out dated intranet, that could really improve if some time and money would&#8217;ve been spend on it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: busy</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-793340</link>
		<dc:creator>busy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read any of the comments, but my take is that sites should function normally and not look completely awful in IE6, but I no longer spend any more time than necessary and I don&#039;t mind minor problems showing up in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read any of the comments, but my take is that sites should function normally and not look completely awful in IE6, but I no longer spend any more time than necessary and I don&#8217;t mind minor problems showing up in it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: neron-fx</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/08/25/is-it-time-to-ditch-ie6/comment-page-3/#comment-790388</link>
		<dc:creator>neron-fx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I state in all new web proposals that my company will no longer support IE6 by default. We WILL support it, or any other non-current browser, for any client willing to pay 20% more. Giving clients this option up-front takes the burden of decision out of my hands and places it back in theirs.

Our non-support of the horrible IE6 has given us the ability to build sites better, faster AND cheaper. So far no client has requested to pay extra for IE6, and they have each understood and supported the reasons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thats actaully quite a good idea :o) Not sure how many of my freelance clients would bite though! Work would most certainly hate the idea of me asking for a 20% pay rise to make stuff work in IE6 HAHA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I state in all new web proposals that my company will no longer support IE6 by default. We WILL support it, or any other non-current browser, for any client willing to pay 20% more. Giving clients this option up-front takes the burden of decision out of my hands and places it back in theirs.</p>
<p>Our non-support of the horrible IE6 has given us the ability to build sites better, faster AND cheaper. So far no client has requested to pay extra for IE6, and they have each understood and supported the reasons.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thats actaully quite a good idea :o) Not sure how many of my freelance clients would bite though! Work would most certainly hate the idea of me asking for a 20% pay rise to make stuff work in IE6 HAHA!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Jennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I state in all new web proposals that my company will no longer support IE6 by default.  We WILL support it, or any other non-current browser, for any client willing to pay 20% more.  Giving clients this option up-front takes the burden of decision out of my hands and places it back in theirs. 

Our non-support of the horrible IE6 has given us the ability to build sites better, faster AND cheaper. So far no client has requested to pay extra for IE6, and they have each understood and supported the reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I state in all new web proposals that my company will no longer support IE6 by default.  We WILL support it, or any other non-current browser, for any client willing to pay 20% more.  Giving clients this option up-front takes the burden of decision out of my hands and places it back in theirs. </p>
<p>Our non-support of the horrible IE6 has given us the ability to build sites better, faster AND cheaper. So far no client has requested to pay extra for IE6, and they have each understood and supported the reasons.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: neron-fx</title>
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		<dc:creator>neron-fx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A friend of me already stopped IE6 Support and I think I´ll do that in future too and get in some message box telling the visitor to swtich over to the new version. I don´t understand why people still use that old browser. Even our school has IE7, Opera and Firefox installed…. and our admin isn´t the smartest at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do agree with what you are saying in a way. I don&#039;t think the

&quot;We could upgrade to IE 7 but its a pain in the butt...&quot; 

excuse should be a good enough not to upgrade their business systems or networks. Surely its much more important to maintain the networks security and integrity of these business systems at all costs. 

I think in general (with the odd exception)that the excuse used above is from lazy ass sys admins who really cant be bothered doing their job properly, and who also tell you to &quot;Reboot your computer&quot; at every problem you encounter! :o) That is not a jibe at sys admins by the way before you all start jumping down my throat! I know your jobs are not easy I am referring to the genuinely bad ones who don&#039;t do stuff just because its a pain :o) We have excpetionally good sys admin at my place of work who keep everything up to date and will bend over backwards to help you :o)

However I will continue to develop for IE 6.0 professionally (All work I do with the exception of personal projects) as for the time being we are stuck with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A friend of me already stopped IE6 Support and I think I´ll do that in future too and get in some message box telling the visitor to swtich over to the new version. I don´t understand why people still use that old browser. Even our school has IE7, Opera and Firefox installed…. and our admin isn´t the smartest at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>I do agree with what you are saying in a way. I don&#8217;t think the</p>
<p>&#8220;We could upgrade to IE 7 but its a pain in the butt&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>excuse should be a good enough not to upgrade their business systems or networks. Surely its much more important to maintain the networks security and integrity of these business systems at all costs. </p>
<p>I think in general (with the odd exception)that the excuse used above is from lazy ass sys admins who really cant be bothered doing their job properly, and who also tell you to &#8220;Reboot your computer&#8221; at every problem you encounter! :o) That is not a jibe at sys admins by the way before you all start jumping down my throat! I know your jobs are not easy I am referring to the genuinely bad ones who don&#8217;t do stuff just because its a pain :o) We have excpetionally good sys admin at my place of work who keep everything up to date and will bend over backwards to help you :o)</p>
<p>However I will continue to develop for IE 6.0 professionally (All work I do with the exception of personal projects) as for the time being we are stuck with it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: div^</title>
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		<dc:creator>div^</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of me already stopped IE6 Support and I think I´ll do that in future too and get in some message box telling the visitor to swtich over to the new version. I don´t understand why people still use that old browser. Even our school has IE7, Opera and Firefox installed.... and our admin isn´t the smartest at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of me already stopped IE6 Support and I think I´ll do that in future too and get in some message box telling the visitor to swtich over to the new version. I don´t understand why people still use that old browser. Even our school has IE7, Opera and Firefox installed&#8230;. and our admin isn´t the smartest at all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TheBuzzSaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBuzzSaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, markbrown4, it is one thing to demand users convert to one specific browser; it is totally different to ask users to convert to a modern browser of his/her choice that is NOT freakin&#039; seven years old. People continue to use IE6 because they are completely ignorant to the problems presented by that browser. That is why I work to INFORM my users through my IE6 script that warns the user to upgrade in order to view the site properly.

You just recently dropped IE5.5 support? Wow, welcome to the 21st century...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, markbrown4, it is one thing to demand users convert to one specific browser; it is totally different to ask users to convert to a modern browser of his/her choice that is NOT freakin&#8217; seven years old. People continue to use IE6 because they are completely ignorant to the problems presented by that browser. That is why I work to INFORM my users through my IE6 script that warns the user to upgrade in order to view the site properly.</p>
<p>You just recently dropped IE5.5 support? Wow, welcome to the 21st century&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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