Comments on: Yahoo!: Web 3.0 is All About Desktop RIAs http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:35:20 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jobol http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/comment-page-1/#comment-774570 jobol Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:30:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=2744#comment-774570 Browser extensions can play an important niche role in pushing web standards forward, but are they important enough to deserve a Web 3.0 label? I'm not so sure. I wrote this post about a few other <a href="http://impl.emented.com/2008/08/04/the-return-of-web-30-cloud-computing-browser-extensions-or-the-distributed-web/" rel="nofollow">recent Web 3.0 proposals</a>. Browser extensions can play an important niche role in pushing web standards forward, but are they important enough to deserve a Web 3.0 label? I’m not so sure. I wrote this post about a few other recent Web 3.0 proposals.

]]> By: Mattt Thompson http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/comment-page-1/#comment-772272 Mattt Thompson Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:42:45 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=2744#comment-772272 @stuartk Right now, I have a strong, but loosely held opinion about AIR. It seems to me that AIR is approaching desktop integration from the wrong direction. It falls somewhere between OS widgets / gadgets and real web applications, with none of the advantages. I just don't see users being motivated enough to go through such an extensive installation process to try out something not much different than a widget or a normal website. What I've found to be much more interesting is the approach that Mozilla Prism and Fluid are doing by leveraging existing rendering engines to easily port heavily-used applications to specific applications. @stuartk Right now, I have a strong, but loosely held opinion about AIR. It seems to me that AIR is approaching desktop integration from the wrong direction. It falls somewhere between OS widgets / gadgets and real web applications, with none of the advantages. I just don’t see users being motivated enough to go through such an extensive installation process to try out something not much different than a widget or a normal website.

What I’ve found to be much more interesting is the approach that Mozilla Prism and Fluid are doing by leveraging existing rendering engines to easily port heavily-used applications to specific applications.

]]> By: stuartk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/comment-page-1/#comment-771663 stuartk Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:33:04 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=2744#comment-771663 @Matt, just wondering how you think Adobe Air fits into this picture. Although it's not Open, it does allow a transition from web 2.0 to RIA's, as I believe you can use html, flash or flex to develop with Air. @Matt, just wondering how you think Adobe Air fits into this picture. Although it’s not Open, it does allow a transition from web 2.0 to RIA’s, as I believe you can use html, flash or flex to develop with Air.

]]> By: Mattt Thompson http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/comment-page-1/#comment-771638 Mattt Thompson Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:56:11 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=2744#comment-771638 @rickmans As I wrote in my article, Gears was released as open-source in May. Unlike the browser wars of the 90's, Gears is positioning itself as an extension of existing web standards, ie HTML5. The modular approach of BrowserPlus, however, does not easily lend itself to a completely open-source implementation as it necessitates a gatekeeper of sorts. However, Yahoo! and the BrowserPlus team are doing their best to open up the process as much as they can, without compromising security to users. @rickmans As I wrote in my article, Gears was released as open-source in May. Unlike the browser wars of the 90’s, Gears is positioning itself as an extension of existing web standards, ie HTML5. The modular approach of BrowserPlus, however, does not easily lend itself to a completely open-source implementation as it necessitates a gatekeeper of sorts. However, Yahoo! and the BrowserPlus team are doing their best to open up the process as much as they can, without compromising security to users.

]]> By: rickmans http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/31/yahoo-web-30-is-all-about-offline-rias/comment-page-1/#comment-771487 rickmans Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:01:35 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=2744#comment-771487 Well a vendor lock-in, that a new approach. Finally we were finished with the heritage of IE's and now we get plugins that do not differ that much. Are there any open alternatives for these two plugins? Well a vendor lock-in, that a new approach. Finally we were finished with the heritage of IE’s and now we get plugins that do not differ that much. Are there any open alternatives for these two plugins?

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