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		<title>By: ncloud</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761477</link>
		<dc:creator>ncloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, let me get this straight -- you want to hand direct legislative control over to citizens who &lt;em&gt;themselves&lt;/em&gt; elected the lowest approved Congress in United States history?  Brilliant.  Bypass checks and balances and pipe &quot;teh stoopid&quot; straight into law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me get this straight &#8212; you want to hand direct legislative control over to citizens who <em>themselves</em> elected the lowest approved Congress in United States history?  Brilliant.  Bypass checks and balances and pipe &#8220;teh stoopid&#8221; straight into law!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TheOriginalH</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761395</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOriginalH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add constructively to the debate (and pertinently, naming no African nation in particular),a problem missed by Josh is that of electronic transparency. &quot;e-votes&quot; are potentially a damn site easier to &quot;stuff&quot;, manipulate or just plain lie about than real ones... any idea how they plan to combat that potential issue (and/or safeguard against it from the inside...)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add constructively to the debate (and pertinently, naming no African nation in particular),a problem missed by Josh is that of electronic transparency. &#8220;e-votes&#8221; are potentially a damn site easier to &#8220;stuff&#8221;, manipulate or just plain lie about than real ones&#8230; any idea how they plan to combat that potential issue (and/or safeguard against it from the inside&#8230;)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TheOriginalH</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761384</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOriginalH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matty - no confusion, a question (there has been no clarification to date). Having been on the forums for 8 years I&#039;m aware of where the rule came from. Question answered though. Bloggers can write about politics....members can&#039;t. 

@ Josh, I realise that the post is pretty much ideology free, and respect that. It&#039;s an interesting topic that certainly warrants some debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matty &#8211; no confusion, a question (there has been no clarification to date). Having been on the forums for 8 years I&#8217;m aware of where the rule came from. Question answered though. Bloggers can write about politics&#8230;.members can&#8217;t. </p>
<p>@ Josh, I realise that the post is pretty much ideology free, and respect that. It&#8217;s an interesting topic that certainly warrants some debate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Josh Catone</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761325</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Catone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adesignrsa: I was actually trying to be fairly careful to &lt;strong&gt;avoid&lt;/strong&gt; talking about the political message.  This post is (or rather, was attempting to be) a discussion of the merits of applying theory prominent on the web and web tech (wisdom of crowds, web polls, etc.) to a new area (politics).  

Certainly it is hard to have that discussion without some discussion of the politics, but your political ideology doesn&#039;t really matter in this.  Two people on the same side of the political fence may disagree that this is a good idea, while two people diametrically opposed when it comes to political policy might think Digg-style voting on political issues is a brilliant idea. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adesignrsa: I was actually trying to be fairly careful to <strong>avoid</strong> talking about the political message.  This post is (or rather, was attempting to be) a discussion of the merits of applying theory prominent on the web and web tech (wisdom of crowds, web polls, etc.) to a new area (politics).  </p>
<p>Certainly it is hard to have that discussion without some discussion of the politics, but your political ideology doesn&#8217;t really matter in this.  Two people on the same side of the political fence may disagree that this is a good idea, while two people diametrically opposed when it comes to political policy might think Digg-style voting on political issues is a brilliant idea. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tehgamecat</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761263</link>
		<dc:creator>tehgamecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesnt work, ends in a dictatorship as noone cba to fill all the forms in. Good film in the 60s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesnt work, ends in a dictatorship as noone cba to fill all the forms in. Good film in the 60s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mattymcg</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761253</link>
		<dc:creator>mattymcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;does this not rather heavily infringe the SP “No politics” rule?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t confuse our policy that applies to conversations in our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion forums&lt;/a&gt; with the topics we choose to write about on our blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>does this not rather heavily infringe the SP “No politics” rule?!</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t confuse our policy that applies to conversations in our <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/" rel="nofollow">discussion forums</a> with the topics we choose to write about on our blogs.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: adesignrsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>adesignrsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to say, and TheOriginalH beat me to it... when did Sitepoint turn political? I can understand the technology behind the site being discussed, but not the political message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to say, and TheOriginalH beat me to it&#8230; when did Sitepoint turn political? I can understand the technology behind the site being discussed, but not the political message.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TheOriginalH</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761170</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOriginalH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting concept indeed. Will read more before making assessment, but it does smack of e-referendum governing through the back door on the face of it (whether that is good or bad is an essay subject!).

Small note though.....does this not rather heavily infringe the SP &quot;No politics&quot; rule?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting concept indeed. Will read more before making assessment, but it does smack of e-referendum governing through the back door on the face of it (whether that is good or bad is an essay subject!).</p>
<p>Small note though&#8230;..does this not rather heavily infringe the SP &#8220;No politics&#8221; rule?!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: antaramedia-com</title>
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		<dc:creator>antaramedia-com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea of an open source government could work and is a real alternative to a traditional capitalist government.
 
Today, our governments are controlled by a relatively small number of people (the politicians and technocrats),
who control many aspects of our lives, from taxes and government spending to regulation of the Internet and commerce. But imagine that open-source alternatives for these functions, perhaps one at a time, are created and grow in acceptance. This may be difficult to imagine, but take an example of schools.

Currently, knowledge and the teaching of that knowledge is in the hands of a few, from elementary to highschools to higher education. But why do we need to go through the public or private school system, and why does Harvard and Stanford and
MIT control the education of our professionals and academics?

Homeschooling, for example, is a growing movement that allows parents to regain control of their child’s education, to move away from an authoritarian setting of mind control and towards one of learning, of questioning, of critical thinking — and that’s really what education should be. Please understand that I’m not blaming the teachers — they are good people with good intentions, but they are bound by the school system, which is really controlled by our government. The open-source concept can be applied to higher education: imagine an online school for programmers or accountants or businesspeople, where the real professionals decide the curriculum and teach the classes and give out the certificates. If this alternative grows in acceptance (and this will take a long time to happen), there is no reason why a Harvard
business degree would be better than an open-source one, which would also be much less expensive

Email is another example of how a government function can be co-opted, as the postal system is less necessary than before — fewer people use the postal system to write letters, and the days of getting bills in the mail may soon be a thing of the past. Perhaps not every government function can be co-opted (although it’s possible), but if enough government services become obsolete because of better alternatives, the justification of taxes becomes weaker. Open-source helping of the poor, instead of government welfare. Open-source medical help, instead of the government’s public health system. There are many possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea of an open source government could work and is a real alternative to a traditional capitalist government.</p>
<p>Today, our governments are controlled by a relatively small number of people (the politicians and technocrats),<br />
who control many aspects of our lives, from taxes and government spending to regulation of the Internet and commerce. But imagine that open-source alternatives for these functions, perhaps one at a time, are created and grow in acceptance. This may be difficult to imagine, but take an example of schools.</p>
<p>Currently, knowledge and the teaching of that knowledge is in the hands of a few, from elementary to highschools to higher education. But why do we need to go through the public or private school system, and why does Harvard and Stanford and<br />
MIT control the education of our professionals and academics?</p>
<p>Homeschooling, for example, is a growing movement that allows parents to regain control of their child’s education, to move away from an authoritarian setting of mind control and towards one of learning, of questioning, of critical thinking — and that’s really what education should be. Please understand that I’m not blaming the teachers — they are good people with good intentions, but they are bound by the school system, which is really controlled by our government. The open-source concept can be applied to higher education: imagine an online school for programmers or accountants or businesspeople, where the real professionals decide the curriculum and teach the classes and give out the certificates. If this alternative grows in acceptance (and this will take a long time to happen), there is no reason why a Harvard<br />
business degree would be better than an open-source one, which would also be much less expensive</p>
<p>Email is another example of how a government function can be co-opted, as the postal system is less necessary than before — fewer people use the postal system to write letters, and the days of getting bills in the mail may soon be a thing of the past. Perhaps not every government function can be co-opted (although it’s possible), but if enough government services become obsolete because of better alternatives, the justification of taxes becomes weaker. Open-source helping of the poor, instead of government welfare. Open-source medical help, instead of the government’s public health system. There are many possibilities.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: abraham</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/15/is-the-world-ready-for-digg-style-government/comment-page-1/#comment-761059</link>
		<dc:creator>abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care what anyone says, we need to institute intelligence tests.  If you score anything below 120 then YOU CANNOT SERVE IN GOVERNMENT SO SORRY PLEASE MOVE ALONG.  If this rule were instituted today fully 2/3s of the current government would be required to step down.  Bush would have to step down twice because he&#039;s two times as dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care what anyone says, we need to institute intelligence tests.  If you score anything below 120 then YOU CANNOT SERVE IN GOVERNMENT SO SORRY PLEASE MOVE ALONG.  If this rule were instituted today fully 2/3s of the current government would be required to step down.  Bush would have to step down twice because he&#8217;s two times as dumb.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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