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	<title>Comments on: Is Google Heading Down the Yahoo! Path?</title>
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		<title>By: Foxhound</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-767999</link>
		<dc:creator>Foxhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they launched Lively because they are going to start in-game advertising, also in PS3 and other consoles.

at least we see new ideas from Google, I prefer the idea of Google leading the internet (not owning it of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they launched Lively because they are going to start in-game advertising, also in PS3 and other consoles.</p>
<p>at least we see new ideas from Google, I prefer the idea of Google leading the internet (not owning it of course)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: disagree</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-762836</link>
		<dc:creator>disagree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t disagree more with this article. 

Google is not a search engine company and they are not an advertising company.  Even though search was how they started and advertising is the current major source of revenue, Google has a simple and clear mission; &quot;to organize the world&#039;s information and make it universally accessible and useful.&quot;  All of their products and services from Talk to Blogger to Grand Central to Google Earth and Analytics  provides them with direct access to information and data allowing them to organize it and make it easy to access and Lively will be no exception. Think of all that data and information from this new entry to the inevitable 3-d web.

Don&#039;t underestimate Google. They have a long view and their long view will be about making all that data easy to access and they&#039;ll make money by either selling that easy access, helping analyze the information, or charging a premium to keep it &quot;unlisted&quot; like the old phone company used to do with unpublished phone numbers.

Yahoo changed their mission fairly recently and while it&#039;s surely a lot better than before it&#039;s still not as simple and focused as Google&#039;s. If you have any experience with corporate mission statements and how companies use them to provide vision and guidance irrespective of time and technology and specific products or services, Google&#039;s is one of the top of all time on these criteria alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t disagree more with this article. </p>
<p>Google is not a search engine company and they are not an advertising company.  Even though search was how they started and advertising is the current major source of revenue, Google has a simple and clear mission; &#8220;to organize the world&#8217;s information and make it universally accessible and useful.&#8221;  All of their products and services from Talk to Blogger to Grand Central to Google Earth and Analytics  provides them with direct access to information and data allowing them to organize it and make it easy to access and Lively will be no exception. Think of all that data and information from this new entry to the inevitable 3-d web.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t underestimate Google. They have a long view and their long view will be about making all that data easy to access and they&#8217;ll make money by either selling that easy access, helping analyze the information, or charging a premium to keep it &#8220;unlisted&#8221; like the old phone company used to do with unpublished phone numbers.</p>
<p>Yahoo changed their mission fairly recently and while it&#8217;s surely a lot better than before it&#8217;s still not as simple and focused as Google&#8217;s. If you have any experience with corporate mission statements and how companies use them to provide vision and guidance irrespective of time and technology and specific products or services, Google&#8217;s is one of the top of all time on these criteria alone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: That Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-761639</link>
		<dc:creator>That Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Comparing Google to Yahoo is a big mistake.  Some would argue that Yahoo&#039;s problem was that it didn&#039;t do enough outside of it&#039;s search business to insure it&#039;s future.  Google is doing the right thing by diversifying it&#039;s business, and while everything they attempt may not work out as planned (what company can claim a 100% track record) their management team has shown they have a pretty good idea of the direction they want to take the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Comparing Google to Yahoo is a big mistake.  Some would argue that Yahoo&#8217;s problem was that it didn&#8217;t do enough outside of it&#8217;s search business to insure it&#8217;s future.  Google is doing the right thing by diversifying it&#8217;s business, and while everything they attempt may not work out as planned (what company can claim a 100% track record) their management team has shown they have a pretty good idea of the direction they want to take the company.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shaq</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-760778</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not complacent with being a noun AND a verb, Google&#039;s philosophy seems more and more like Pinky and the Brain...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey brain, what do you want to do tonight? Same thing we do every night, try to take over the world!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you think of it from that perspective, then venturing into all areas for acquisition and dominance starts to make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not complacent with being a noun AND a verb, Google&#8217;s philosophy seems more and more like Pinky and the Brain&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey brain, what do you want to do tonight? Same thing we do every night, try to take over the world!</p></blockquote>
<p>If you think of it from that perspective, then venturing into all areas for acquisition and dominance starts to make sense.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Black Max</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-760608</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I just don&#039;t see it. It took me about 15 minutes to become uninterested in avatar chat, virtual chat, and so forth back in 199-whatever, and I&#039;m no more interested now. But that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I just don&#8217;t see it. It took me about 15 minutes to become uninterested in avatar chat, virtual chat, and so forth back in 199-whatever, and I&#8217;m no more interested now. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ruby-lang</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-760238</link>
		<dc:creator>ruby-lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Lively&#039;s inspiration is imvu. Instead of a unified world with islands, it has chat rooms with customizable avatars. In fact, one of imvu&#039;s founders joined Google to work on Lively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Lively&#8217;s inspiration is imvu. Instead of a unified world with islands, it has chat rooms with customizable avatars. In fact, one of imvu&#8217;s founders joined Google to work on Lively.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: antaramedia-com</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-760209</link>
		<dc:creator>antaramedia-com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google certainly has a foothold on search today, however, I think it&#039;s not impossible for an unknown person or startup to take over Google one day, with better technology. Just like Yahoo search being taken over by Google today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google certainly has a foothold on search today, however, I think it&#8217;s not impossible for an unknown person or startup to take over Google one day, with better technology. Just like Yahoo search being taken over by Google today.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Black Max</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-760071</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lively, ugh. Looks like SimChat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lively, ugh. Looks like SimChat.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/07/12/is-google-heading-down-the-yahoo-path/comment-page-1/#comment-759878</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely with this post. Last week, when I heard about Lively for the first time from my brother, the first thing I said is, &quot;that&#039;s what will kill Google.&quot;. I know it&#039;s good to be strategically diversified, and you can never be in too many markets if they all make money... but you can be stretched too thin. When your revenue is growing steadily and/or plateauing, it&#039;s probably not good to do either of the following:

a) Stretch your resources, and investment capital dangerously thin by broadening into markets the diverge from your core strengths (ie, Google has some great apps, but they are by no means a software company like Oracle. Everything Google makes is broken in more ways than the normal user would understand. Even Gmail goes down on a bi-daily basis for short periods... The permanent &quot;Beta&quot; status of everything they build proves my point here.)

b) Move into markets that don&#039;t make money, just to make sure your signs can be seen from every corner. Brand building is one thing, but I think that when a company grows to be the 10th largest company in the USA from a garage status in less than a decade, this always happens. They think that if they don&#039;t hang the moon in every corner of the world, people will forget the light that shined during their brightest days, so they continue to 20% their way to self-destruction.

Google is strikingly easy to use as a search tool, and very powerful for advanced users, and it&#039;s simplicity is part of what makes it that way. but sometimes companies that experience big results from a) dumb luck, or b) no-competent competitors, they seem to get this &quot;I&#039;m a genius&quot; attitude, and fail to change the way they do things. Well, they created a whole internet mentality of &quot;I can do that&quot;, and along with that came lots of little fish that think they can eat a whale also, if they just try hard enough. What I&#039;m trying to say is that Google really doesn&#039;t have any competitive edge anymore with any of there services. Take a look at &lt;strong&gt;37 signals&lt;/strong&gt;. They&#039;ve created software suites in no-time that tower over some of what Google Apps puts out. If you get enough small fish in the pond, they will eat the whale. Google needs to put some of their capital into making there applications (Other than Gmail &amp; Search) better than what can be whipped up in R&lt;strong&gt;uby no Rails in a week&lt;/strong&gt;, or they will get eaten. In three years Google will be nothing more than a pile of decentralized startups with ideas all over the chalk board, and nothing to show their investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with this post. Last week, when I heard about Lively for the first time from my brother, the first thing I said is, &#8220;that&#8217;s what will kill Google.&#8221;. I know it&#8217;s good to be strategically diversified, and you can never be in too many markets if they all make money&#8230; but you can be stretched too thin. When your revenue is growing steadily and/or plateauing, it&#8217;s probably not good to do either of the following:</p>
<p>a) Stretch your resources, and investment capital dangerously thin by broadening into markets the diverge from your core strengths (ie, Google has some great apps, but they are by no means a software company like Oracle. Everything Google makes is broken in more ways than the normal user would understand. Even Gmail goes down on a bi-daily basis for short periods&#8230; The permanent &#8220;Beta&#8221; status of everything they build proves my point here.)</p>
<p>b) Move into markets that don&#8217;t make money, just to make sure your signs can be seen from every corner. Brand building is one thing, but I think that when a company grows to be the 10th largest company in the USA from a garage status in less than a decade, this always happens. They think that if they don&#8217;t hang the moon in every corner of the world, people will forget the light that shined during their brightest days, so they continue to 20% their way to self-destruction.</p>
<p>Google is strikingly easy to use as a search tool, and very powerful for advanced users, and it&#8217;s simplicity is part of what makes it that way. but sometimes companies that experience big results from a) dumb luck, or b) no-competent competitors, they seem to get this &#8220;I&#8217;m a genius&#8221; attitude, and fail to change the way they do things. Well, they created a whole internet mentality of &#8220;I can do that&#8221;, and along with that came lots of little fish that think they can eat a whale also, if they just try hard enough. What I&#8217;m trying to say is that Google really doesn&#8217;t have any competitive edge anymore with any of there services. Take a look at <strong>37 signals</strong>. They&#8217;ve created software suites in no-time that tower over some of what Google Apps puts out. If you get enough small fish in the pond, they will eat the whale. Google needs to put some of their capital into making there applications (Other than Gmail &amp; Search) better than what can be whipped up in R<strong>uby no Rails in a week</strong>, or they will get eaten. In three years Google will be nothing more than a pile of decentralized startups with ideas all over the chalk board, and nothing to show their investors.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It  is    hard  to  be a bright star in all  worlds .  What  most  people don&#039;t  remember,  is  that  most  of  these  companies,  call  it  Google,  Yahoo  Ebay, Amazon  etc  are  where  they are  no  really  because of tech supremacy .  Companies  like  Google   are  what  they  are  because they  hard  the    right service at  the  right  time  and  did  the  right  thing Q.E.D .  Ia  just  hard to  have  the  right  service, do  the  right  thing  and  be at  the  right  time  in  a  changing  world .
The  reason  why  Microsoft  is having  a hard time  catching up  with Google in  search is  not  because  they  don&#039;t  have  enough  talents . The advantage they  have  is  their brand  recognition that  is  what  make  Google  a  king .  Google  tried  froogle  to  compete with  Ebay we  all  know  the  result .  Google  failed in  the  auction   venture not  because they  didn&#039;t  have  the needed  talents .  Google will  only  be  known  for  search .  It  will  be  hard  for  them  to  pull  of  an  original idea   that  will  be like  their Google  search  service . Most  people who  use  youtube don&#039;t  even  know it  is  owned by  Google .  Youtube seems  to  be  a  success  because  it  is  original  in  creation .  If  they  want to  increase share  holders  value they  should  structure all  this  little  bids  they  do  into  individual start-ups that  can  be  seen  as  original this  will  help  create  a  uinque  user  experience like  what  youtube  provides .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It  is    hard  to  be a bright star in all  worlds .  What  most  people don&#8217;t  remember,  is  that  most  of  these  companies,  call  it  Google,  Yahoo  Ebay, Amazon  etc  are  where  they are  no  really  because of tech supremacy .  Companies  like  Google   are  what  they  are  because they  hard  the    right service at  the  right  time  and  did  the  right  thing Q.E.D .  Ia  just  hard to  have  the  right  service, do  the  right  thing  and  be at  the  right  time  in  a  changing  world .<br />
The  reason  why  Microsoft  is having  a hard time  catching up  with Google in  search is  not  because  they  don&#8217;t  have  enough  talents . The advantage they  have  is  their brand  recognition that  is  what  make  Google  a  king .  Google  tried  froogle  to  compete with  Ebay we  all  know  the  result .  Google  failed in  the  auction   venture not  because they  didn&#8217;t  have  the needed  talents .  Google will  only  be  known  for  search .  It  will  be  hard  for  them  to  pull  of  an  original idea   that  will  be like  their Google  search  service . Most  people who  use  youtube don&#8217;t  even  know it  is  owned by  Google .  Youtube seems  to  be  a  success  because  it  is  original  in  creation .  If  they  want to  increase share  holders  value they  should  structure all  this  little  bids  they  do  into  individual start-ups that  can  be  seen  as  original this  will  help  create  a  uinque  user  experience like  what  youtube  provides .</p>]]></content:encoded>
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