Comments on: Internet Explorer Extinct By 2013?

By: x-ymore

x-ymore — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:43:29 +0000

I am writing code for ie and firefox at the same time.
Firefox 3.0 erase some improvements of 2.x.
Ex: text-aling to center a page with div does nothing in ff 3, but is working in 2.x.
All my customers are using windows/ie, and i have not see any chanches. Windows + ie is more easy to learn and install for end users. My customers emploees know who to install xp, but does not now how to download linux, and less how to install it.
96% os people that i now, are xp users, and others are vista users.
Linux is my produtction environement. But not for development.

By: SneakyWho_am_i

SneakyWho_am_i — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:35:53 +0000

“OMFG” makes a point I don’t understand. Why point out that other browsers become more popular at an equal rate to that at which IE becomes less popular? Duh….. It would have to by definition, wouldn’t it?

“Rose” actually makes a pro-designing-for-IE argument that makes sense! If Internet Explorer is so bad, we should just stop writing code for it.

So, I have stopped writing code for it. Almost a year ago, in fact. Internet Explorer is ALREADY dead. Sites which NEED visitors, I make sure to send as text/html. For personal or noncommercial sites, I write code MY way, not the MS way. I like to write valid, well formed XML and serve it under an XML mime type.

I write one copy of each page, and give it one stylesheet. No hacks, no workarounds, nothing. IE may choke and fail, but all the other browsers get it right and that’s all that matters to me.

When I’m providing a service to everyone, I will at least explain to people that they need to upgrade their browser to view the content. It’s not a case of “You must be using browser X”, more a case of “You must not be using browser Y”.

Is web design about money? For some, yeah. Do you hate your job? If so, QUIT.
Web design is NOT about money. Web design is about the joy of creating something excellent.

Internet Explorer is a great handicap to this excellence and creativity. I celebrated its demise long ago.

By: Rose

Rose — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:24:59 +0000

You guys all need to get a life. You got into the web design business knowing the issues with IE – whichever version it is – so just do your job and shut the *@#! up. Or find another source of income. And I wish you would (most of you) learn how to spell and proofread!

By: seazuvip

seazuvip — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:03:54 +0000

In China, the most popular browser is Maxthon ,base on IE…

For Firefox,google pay the website owner for visitor downloading the FF,so it’s just like a virus flooding ,so google would cancel the plan in the next month…

For Opera,it offer a faster way to visit the web,may be it would instead of FF.Till now ,we use opera on the mobile
phone more than on pc….

By: Richard Cherry

Richard Cherry — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:07:54 +0000

After vacillating between TABLE layouts and CSS style formatting i am still not comfortable with a purely either/or approach. So i utilize both-where appropriate.

Several interesting CSS instructional books on the market advise building complete web pages without resorting to the use of tables. They even encourage leaping ahead into CSS-3 syntax. This is fantasyland, because IE has a long way to go to become compliant with even CSS2.1; and it is still the dominant browser out there.

What to do?
I recommend using a good reference book-such as one that O’Reilly publishes-that lists every CSS element, selector, etc. along with the compatibility of each element in all the major browsers.

For simple 2 or even 3 column page layouts i will use CSS only-but the lack of IE compliance can ruin your day if you don’t have a handle on the support details.

By: buggy - IE

buggy - IE — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:07:47 +0000

yes, IE will lose more users, but not extinct.

By: seazuvip

seazuvip — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:09:20 +0000

Thank you for your writings….

I have translated it into Chinese and post in my blog..

Click here:http://www.copicosoft.cn/read.php/2.htm

IE would be the next NETSCAPE if the Microsoft has nothing done to solve the problem。。。

By: Srirangan

Srirangan — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:17:23 +0000

I think the one thing that will reduce IE’s hold on the general population, is when they become more educated to the lack of CSS support from IE..

Yes because the average person cares ever so dearly about the correct rendering of CSS on web browsers as per W3C standards.. indeed! /sarc

By: bloodofeve

bloodofeve — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:56:30 +0000

I think the one thing that will reduce IE’s hold on the general population, is when they become more educated to the lack of CSS support from IE and people try to find out why their favourite site doesn’t render correctly in IE.

I regularly try to educate my clients into the benefits of Opera, Safari and Firefox mainly because sites work properly and you don’t have to add hacks or tweak your site so that it fits the clients IE system.

I had a discussion about an issue with a contact form I designed for a new site - looked great in everything but IE, I explained that the issue was with IE not my design. But to keep my client happy I had to alter the spacing so that it looked correct, this sort of thing drives me mad. Why can’t Microsoft stop being so darn anal about how great IE is and accept that it SUCKS big time and it isn’t CSS friendly.

I would agree that to loose IE totally isn’t good for the market, but I can see the strangle hold they have on the market being reduced as the non-techi public begin to see the benefits of the css compliant browsers. Heres to 2012!!

By: Anti-Chief

Anti-Chief — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:50:55 +0000

KCChief - are you a complete idiot or do you like to pretend to be so horribly uneducated? Please do continue your decent into the bowels of Microsoft web technologies. This will allow the rest of us to have all the sites that actually generate real traffic and cashflow. I mean so what if all those MS technologies ONLY run in MSIE (well, at least attempt to most of the time). I mean if the majority are using something other than MSIE and can’t view all those pretty little bells and whistles MS technology web sites so what right? So you go right ahead and dive blindly into the MS wagon while I stick with my development for the rest of the world…

PS - Anyone here even remotely involved with an IT department in a large corporation kn9ows first hand most companies are only using MS technologies now because of ease of use and paid support. This too is changing, people are sick of spending $$$$$$$$ for their business when they can find something that works faster, harder, and better in opensource or not even open source just anything other than MS technology…