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	<title>Comments on: IE8, ACID2 and You</title>
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		<title>By: wwb_99</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/07/ie8-acid2-and-you/#comment-651135</link>
		<dc:creator>wwb_99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Asimov: I don't see anything about having to install a VPC to test this browser. I would also point out that all necessary items [VPC 2007, VHDs] are available free of charge. The reason I highly recommend using them is that the pain factor using VPC is alot lower than using hacked versions or switching computers or burning your main box with beta software. Or at least it is to me. And I could very well have machines dedicated to every different version of IE and whatever other cases I wished. And actually did have such a setup at one point. But it is far easier to mount, nevermind share, VPCs than it is to physically visit a computer. Also, I wonder if you think the same thing about Safari since it too does not support multiple simultaneous versions running in the same OS without it's own set of hacks.

As for your question about "saving Microsoft some money by testing IE8", well, it really is not about money but about coverage. That got me thinking so much, I got a bit of verbal diarrhea and &lt;a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/10/microsoft-ie8-lets-move-on-and-make-it-great/" rel="nofollow"&gt;wrote a little post about it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Asimov: I don&#8217;t see anything about having to install a VPC to test this browser. I would also point out that all necessary items [VPC 2007, VHDs] are available free of charge. The reason I highly recommend using them is that the pain factor using VPC is alot lower than using hacked versions or switching computers or burning your main box with beta software. Or at least it is to me. And I could very well have machines dedicated to every different version of IE and whatever other cases I wished. And actually did have such a setup at one point. But it is far easier to mount, nevermind share, VPCs than it is to physically visit a computer. Also, I wonder if you think the same thing about Safari since it too does not support multiple simultaneous versions running in the same OS without it&#8217;s own set of hacks.</p>
<p>As for your question about &#8220;saving Microsoft some money by testing IE8&#8243;, well, it really is not about money but about coverage. That got me thinking so much, I got a bit of verbal diarrhea and <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/10/microsoft-ie8-lets-move-on-and-make-it-great/" rel="nofollow">wrote a little post about it</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Asimov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just having to install a VPC to test a browser is bull.  It's only like that so Microsoft can claim they can't separate IE from Windows when they get monopoly lawsuits.  Yeah, tell us another one...

Anyway, I have one PC set up with IE6 to test how that breaks my new sites, and another machine to test Firefox, IE7, Opera and Safari.  Am I that nice to help out Microsoft by wasting my time setting up VPCs or another machine?  I don't think so.  When I can test IE7 and IE8 on the same pc without a virtual PC requirement, then maybe I'll save Microsoft some money by helping test IE8, which is after all their jobs anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just having to install a VPC to test a browser is bull.  It&#8217;s only like that so Microsoft can claim they can&#8217;t separate IE from Windows when they get monopoly lawsuits.  Yeah, tell us another one&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I have one PC set up with IE6 to test how that breaks my new sites, and another machine to test Firefox, IE7, Opera and Safari.  Am I that nice to help out Microsoft by wasting my time setting up VPCs or another machine?  I don&#8217;t think so.  When I can test IE7 and IE8 on the same pc without a virtual PC requirement, then maybe I&#8217;ll save Microsoft some money by helping test IE8, which is after all their jobs anyway.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Php_penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/07/ie8-acid2-and-you/#comment-649892</link>
		<dc:creator>Php_penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy crap, a browser that complies with standards ... whatever next?

good news for designers everywhere :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap, a browser that complies with standards &#8230; whatever next?</p>
<p>good news for designers everywhere :D</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: busy</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/07/ie8-acid2-and-you/#comment-649864</link>
		<dc:creator>busy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had gone the VPC route, but at least there's no side effects yet, (and IE7 mode appears to be working correctly)

I'm giving IE8 mode the benefit of the doubt that it's still VERY beta. Otherwise it's a little on the borked side to be step forward in standards compliance. Not that I'm complaining though, I'm happy with the progress IE has been making lately. (Commence IE flaming from the masses)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had gone the VPC route, but at least there&#8217;s no side effects yet, (and IE7 mode appears to be working correctly)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giving IE8 mode the benefit of the doubt that it&#8217;s still VERY beta. Otherwise it&#8217;s a little on the borked side to be step forward in standards compliance. Not that I&#8217;m complaining though, I&#8217;m happy with the progress IE has been making lately. (Commence IE flaming from the masses)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/07/ie8-acid2-and-you/#comment-648786</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly disappointed so far. Doesn't seem to render CSS generated content correctly (well, at all actually)

http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/969/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly disappointed so far. Doesn&#8217;t seem to render CSS generated content correctly (well, at all actually)</p>
<p><a href="http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/969/" rel="nofollow">http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/969/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Hapke</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/07/ie8-acid2-and-you/#comment-648715</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Hapke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wyatt,

Here is the link to the VPC downloads... note there is now an IE8 VPC available.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&#38;displaylang=en

Stephanie Vaughn Hapke
St. Charles, MO USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wyatt,</p>
<p>Here is the link to the VPC downloads&#8230; note there is now an IE8 VPC available.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&amp;displaylang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&amp;displaylang=en</a></p>
<p>Stephanie Vaughn Hapke<br />
St. Charles, MO USA</p>]]></content:encoded>
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