Comments on: IE8 Standards Mode Is Opt-in

By: akayani

akayani — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:23:04 +0000

Imagine that crap they are going to spew out for OOXML. Microsoft or is that Microhoo or Yasoft - for lemmings.

Yani

By: mistycabal

mistycabal — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:22:27 +0000

It’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of - but then again, it comes from Microsoft and they are the king of coming up with backwards solutions.

I can just imagine the blank looks on someones face when I try to explain that … well, IE8 isn’t going to act like IE8 unless I specifically ask it to, otherwise it’s going to act like IE7.

How backwards can you get?

If MS insists on including this more modern take on the old browser sniffing - then they could at least do it in a way that makes sense…. meaning how about IE8 will act like IE8. Then, if it breaks a site of a lazy developer and that developer decides not to fix it, then they can just toss in the meta tag so their site renders like IE7 instead.

By: akayani

akayani — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:54:46 +0000

Here is a funny take on this issue…

http://www.katemonkey.co.uk/article/48/x-ua-lemur-compatible

Yani

By: akayani

akayani — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:08 +0000

I’m a bit feed up with my clients thinking I’m either a perfectionist wanker or trying to rip them off or that I don’t know what I’m doing when after they have seen their site work perfect in FF I tell them it will take another week to test and correct it for IE5 IE5.5 IE6 IE7 AND Safari. Who here would even give a damn if you could justify $100+ a hours to frig about because MS think they know best. I don’t know anyone who codes web pages that wouldn’t shoot the IE team and destroy the browser if that were possible. You watch even with all this hype it won’t match FF. It will just be yet another browser from MS that has to be hacked into standards compliance. At least it has a hack not like Safari where you have to keep tricking up the CSS till you get a compromise that works kinda with Firefox. They all need to grow up and use one common engine and put their collective development efforts into a single task. Nothing stopping MS from adding Active X or whatever weirdo extras they want on top of that.

Yani

By: busy

busy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:04:37 +0000

I just can’t get upset at Microsoft anymore. To me it seems like they’re doing exactly what developers want them to, namely whip IE into line with respect to standards.

They’re a huge company and huge == slow for various valid reasons. All I know is IE is way less of a pain than it used to be and it seems to be continuing on that trend.

By: Drew

Drew — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:56:33 +0000

I have been coding for a few years now. I am taking a website developement course and I also read a lot of stuff on w3schools and w3c. I have coded by the standards and have always seen IE having issues dislaying my code in one form or another. I think that IE should just suck it up and start building their browsers to display web compliant code. I was a little annoyed that I had built a site that displayed great in FF just like i coded it to and not so bad in Safari and Opera. Then when i viewed it in ie 6 and 7 it was broken. I also had a site that worked fine in all browsers other than IE 7. You have to ask. Is Microsoft building there browsers for Use on the web or just another program to add into their many other problematic programs.

By: linux_mike

linux_mike — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:58:46 +0000

All this is well and good…

But it is not the HTML rendering that is broken. It is the CSS rendering.

I have just settled nicely into a hack method which allows me to keep all my hacks for IE CSS rendering in a separate CSS file (@import hack).

Why doesn’t IE supply it’s hacks in a CSS fix, not an HTML fix. Declare the CSS model supported, not the HTML model and don’t fix it in the (X)HTML code fer chrisake!

By: akayani

akayani — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:10:40 +0000

“Good grief. It’s one tag. The sky isn’t falling.”

Why do they need any tags? That is the point. I think we are going to discover that it isn’t the compatible browser that it’s being hyped up to be.

A one tag can be a very big pain in the arse if you have multiple sites with heaps of pages. Not to mention all the email traffic it’s going to cause.

“Why don’t my web pages work for IE anymore?”

“They need to be updated for IE8 about $2000 for your site.”

“I’m not paying that explain to me why I should.”

Who need it!

Yani

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:18:35 +0000

It’s time for developers to start telling MS what’s expected instead of MS delivering (as usual) a half-baked solution. Any company with a standards track record this pathetic has no business trying to influence how anyone’s code should look in a browser.

Over 200 documented CSS bugs in IE6, new ones still being discovered in IE7, and now we’re supposed to just “accept” their IE8 multi-part band-aid hack? Please Microsoft, go develop some more accounting widgets or something, and leave the standards interpretation to the W3C and the open-source companies who actually care about them.

By: tgoyer

tgoyer — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:59:13 +0000

Good grief. It’s one tag. The sky isn’t falling. If all I have to do is add one tag to my page and I don’t have to code all those retarded CSS hacks, then I’ll put the tag in.

At least Microsoft is making an effort at getting it right. They aren’t going to get the ship righted in one swoop, it’s going to take a bit. Cut them some credit for trying to do it right. This is just another case of biting the hand that feeds you. I guess I can’t expect FireFox Fanbois to acknowlege the fact that they are trying.