Comments on: All in the mind? http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:28:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: phpimpact http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-511914 phpimpact Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:17:25 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-511914 <blockquote>So what is the difference between thinking and feeling? Isn’t it all just in the mind?</blockquote> Umm, I don't know. I'm a programmer, I don't feel.

So what is the difference between thinking and feeling? Isn’t it all just in the mind?

Umm, I don’t know. I’m a programmer, I don’t feel.

]]> By: Sperlock http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-511885 Sperlock Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:03:12 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-511885 Feelings tend to be an unconscious response to some sort of mental stimulation, while thinking is conscious. Notice, however, that I say feelings <em>tend</em> to be unconscious - we'll just have them without having to think about it, but when that happens, it can be more difficult to control. At the same time, we can consciously choose to have a feeling, such as anger, but have the control to not be angry anymore. This is something that is difficult to explain in words - experience does a much better job. Feelings tend to be an unconscious response to some sort of mental stimulation, while thinking is conscious. Notice, however, that I say feelings tend to be unconscious – we’ll just have them without having to think about it, but when that happens, it can be more difficult to control. At the same time, we can consciously choose to have a feeling, such as anger, but have the control to not be angry anymore.

This is something that is difficult to explain in words – experience does a much better job.

]]> By: stikkybubble http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-506817 stikkybubble Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:29:42 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-506817 I agree with vSkyfluxx: there are some really amazing robots out there, check out KRONOS (videos available on the Univ. of Essex site, sorry no time to link) and Leonardo (giant furby).... : ) I agree with vSkyfluxx: there are some really amazing robots out there, check out KRONOS (videos available on the Univ. of Essex site, sorry no time to link) and Leonardo (giant furby)….

: )

]]> By: Rob_D http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-506715 Rob_D Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:31:26 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-506715 "Don't think - feel" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQORnYPqU3A “Don’t think – feel”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQORnYPqU3A

]]> By: vSkyfluxx http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-506694 vSkyfluxx Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:22:54 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-506694 I'd question whether or not we'd feel at all if the brain was seperated from the body. I think embodiment plays more of a role than most traditional artificial intelligence research and philosophers give it credit for. Have you ever heard of Rodney Brooks and his work? Subsumption Architecture is an amazing way of building robots that operate without complex symbolic representations; all their reasoning and learning is a result of a group of modules that are designed to achieve a simple goal at varying levels of abstraction. These type of machines wouldn't be able to function if they had no body. Maybe humans wouldn't either? Although it's fiction, even in The Matrix, humans needed bodies to believe and experience the simulation. I’d question whether or not we’d feel at all if the brain was seperated from the body. I think embodiment plays more of a role than most traditional artificial intelligence research and philosophers give it credit for. Have you ever heard of Rodney Brooks and his work? Subsumption Architecture is an amazing way of building robots that operate without complex symbolic representations; all their reasoning and learning is a result of a group of modules that are designed to achieve a simple goal at varying levels of abstraction. These type of machines wouldn’t be able to function if they had no body. Maybe humans wouldn’t either? Although it’s fiction, even in The Matrix, humans needed bodies to believe and experience the simulation.

]]> By: Rob_D http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-506661 Rob_D Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:05:20 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-506661 I have a *feeling* that what we feel and think is all part of the same thing - the organism. If the brain were separated from the body I'm sure that we would think and feel quite differently. I have a *feeling* that what we feel and think is all part of the same thing – the organism. If the brain were separated from the body I’m sure that we would think and feel quite differently.

]]> By: stikkybubble http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-504354 stikkybubble Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:57:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-504354 OK you asked for this: different areas of the brain are involved, at least some of which operate in opposition to one another. The dorsal and ventral medial prefrontal cortex, to be specific (Gusnard et al 2001). The dorsal MPFC is associated with attending to one's emotions, the ventral MPFC is associated with attending to task performance. I will be really interested if anyone out there has any more to add to this. Seriously... what *is* this doing here? Somebody spike his coffee? OK you asked for this: different areas of the brain are involved, at least some of which operate in opposition to one another. The dorsal and ventral medial prefrontal cortex, to be specific (Gusnard et al 2001). The dorsal MPFC is associated with attending to one’s emotions, the ventral MPFC is associated with attending to task performance.

I will be really interested if anyone out there has any more to add to this.

Seriously… what *is* this doing here? Somebody spike his coffee?

]]> By: mniessen http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-501978 mniessen Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:35:16 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-501978 I *think* this have little to do with Web Tech... but that's just my opinion! Good day! I *think* this have little to do with Web Tech… but that’s just my opinion!

Good day!

]]> By: dtra http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-501831 dtra Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:13:44 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-501831 doh, agree, and Rich, too many drinks at lunch :D doh, agree, and Rich, too many drinks at lunch :D

]]> By: dtra http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-501814 dtra Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:07:29 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-501814 i have to afgree with Rick, i reckon the great man said it first. prolly enter the dragon. i have to afgree with Rick, i reckon the great man said it first. prolly enter the dragon.

]]> By: Rich http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-500981 Rich Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:02:25 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-500981 "Don’t think — feel" Um, I'm sure Bruce Lee said that first. Enter the Dragon wasn't it? Could be wrong though. “Don’t think — feel”

Um, I’m sure Bruce Lee said that first. Enter the Dragon wasn’t it? Could be wrong though.

]]> By: Matthias http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-500583 Matthias Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:24:37 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-500583 I 'think' the difference is about intention. Matthias <em>Begin easy And you are right Continue right And you are easy The right way To begin easy Is to forget the right way Sun Tzu</em> I ‘think’ the difference is about intention.
Matthias

Begin easy
And you are right

Continue right
And you are easy

The right way
To begin easy
Is to forget the right way

Sun Tzu

]]> By: vSkyfluxx http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-499849 vSkyfluxx Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:10:41 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-499849 I'm not sure what this is doing on SitePoint but yes, on more logical days I tend to agree, it's all in the mind. The more interesting question is - what is mind? Is there more to it than just the brain, more than just those electrochemical reactions at amazingly complex levels of abstraction? I’m not sure what this is doing on SitePoint but yes, on more logical days I tend to agree, it’s all in the mind. The more interesting question is – what is mind? Is there more to it than just the brain, more than just those electrochemical reactions at amazingly complex levels of abstraction?

]]> By: Dylan FM http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-499231 Dylan FM Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:49:59 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/22/all-in-the-mind/#comment-499231 Mate, you just think it's all in the mind. Mate, you just think it’s all in the mind.

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