Comments on: ColdFusion myth-busting

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By: MrBaseball34

MrBaseball34 — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:59:24 +0000

@sassy:

The reason CF developers are so hard to find is because fewer and fewer people are learning it.

Fewer and fewer people are learning it because it’s dying as a viable career path.
…

Accept reality and move forward, always. There is nothing wrong with CF but there is something very wrong with the marketing strategy of everyone who’s owned it since Allaire.

I have been saying exactly the same about my primary GUI development language, Delphi, for a long time. Borland/Codegear have been dancing the same marketing dance as Macromedia/Adobe have been with CF and it has reaped the same results. People have been saying that Delphi is dead for a number of years and there has not been one shred of marketing to refute it. Jobs are few and far between and if you’re lucky to find one now, it is usually a Delphi->.Net conversion gig.

I got started in HTML markup languages with a product called IHTML back in 2000/01. I then moved to CF (v4/4.5). It was really nice back then but lacked a lot of features. After a brief layoff from web development, I have moved on to PHP. I would love to go back to CF, as a developer friend of mine has claimed that CF8 is WONDERFUL. BTW, he has no PHP experience.

I don’t use CF or ASP.net now mostly because of the lack of affordable hosts. If anyone can show me otherwise, I may switch my thinking and move back from the “dark side”..

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:15:32 +0000

I have been coding CF since 1998 and I have to say that it has gotten me a big house, nice 401K and a six figure salary. Not to mention that I make from 30 to 45K doing CF side work on nights and weekends. CF has been very very good to me even now, almost 10 years later. I brought it into the company I now work for and they made me department manager. I work for a public company so I’m not talking about a small operation. If you believe in the technology don’t let anyone change your mind.

By: idkfa

idkfa — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:47:26 +0000

Folks, don’t pigeon-hole yourselves to one language. There are many other languages/environments out there. Focus on language-agnostic patterns, OOP principles, and proper software architecture. The syntax of your particular implementation should NOT matter. For instance…

I began using CF back in the 4.0 days and loved it. So quick and easy to solve the problem. The fact that it solved the problem made it the RIGHT solution.

Then I got into enterprise portals, search engines, and content management systems. In that world (at least in my experience) CF solutions were almost always considered legacy. I preached CF till I turned blue.

One portal in particular was a .NET solution so I decided to pick up ASP.NET. This lead me down the path of ‘Gang of Four’ and Martin Fowler methodologies (I suggest Learning Tree #511). CF supports most of this now that it finally supports interfaces (at least I think so).

Now, a few years later, I find myself working for a start-up company creating augmented reality situational awareness solutions for the military. Sorry folks, there is absolutely no room for CF in this world. Just managed .NET / Java or unmanaged C/C++.

By: Sassy

Sassy — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:06:46 +0000

I worked in a CF shop for a couple of years. I have repeatedly said it is a good tool. Technically, there is nothing wrong with it. That doesn’t change the rest of what I’ve said.

By: dave

dave — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:58:35 +0000

“Accept reality and move forward, always.”

ok sassy this just proves that you are just plain dumb. Im sorry but comments like this are ridiculous.

By: dave

dave — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:56:35 +0000

@sassy
“Fewer and fewer people are learning it because it’s dying as a viable career path.”

You just don’t get it and that’s fine.. just don’t waste your time on something that is above your head. It’s a damn fine career path, I bring in WELL over 6 figures a year, so you just remember that when you are filing your taxes for your messily pay that you will get with the others. Either way you go you aren’t going to make good money until you are good at whatever language you choose and no offense but it sounds like you got a long ways to go.

Fyi~ most coldfusion developers I know make around 70k - 120k a year, most php and .net developers I know make around 40k - 70k a year.

But yet you keep coming in here knowing absolutely NOTHING about Coldfusion and try to tell the people here that are in the Coldfusion community “how it is”… This IS the problem with Coldfusion.. meaning people flapping their mouths with no knowledge… I got $10 that says you are a blonde ;)~