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	<title>Comments on: PNG8 &#8211; The Clear Winner</title>
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		<title>By: pixelbobby</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/comment-page-2/#comment-895023</link>
		<dc:creator>pixelbobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned a lot from this article!  Years and years of web design, and I cannot believe I missed this!  Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned a lot from this article!  Years and years of web design, and I cannot believe I missed this!  Thanks for sharing!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/comment-page-2/#comment-888479</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don&#039;t bother with PNGs in IE6 and earlier.
People who haven&#039;t upgraded their browsers in almost a decade get a GIF. Still works, just doesn&#039;t look as pretty. 
I&#039;m so tired of busting my balls for workarounds to other people&#039;s problems/mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t bother with PNGs in IE6 and earlier.<br />
People who haven&#8217;t upgraded their browsers in almost a decade get a GIF. Still works, just doesn&#8217;t look as pretty.<br />
I&#8217;m so tired of busting my balls for workarounds to other people&#8217;s problems/mistakes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/comment-page-2/#comment-884943</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on what you need to do . . . 

I was able to use Microsoft Expression Design 2 to take a picture and export it as a PNG with color mode of indexed, palette of optimized-2 colors with transparency checked, and it worked in IE 6, just like a PNG 8 would . . .

Now, I was just creating a one-pixel transparent png, so not sure how good this would work in other scenarios . . . still it gives you something to try if you have Microsoft, not Fireworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on what you need to do . . . </p>
<p>I was able to use Microsoft Expression Design 2 to take a picture and export it as a PNG with color mode of indexed, palette of optimized-2 colors with transparency checked, and it worked in IE 6, just like a PNG 8 would . . .</p>
<p>Now, I was just creating a one-pixel transparent png, so not sure how good this would work in other scenarios . . . still it gives you something to try if you have Microsoft, not Fireworks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Aaron and Dan!  Let&#039;s boycott IE!  Nobody develop for IE ANYMORE!!!  
Crowd says: HERE HERE!!!  
Let IE die like old people on WebTV!!! Viva La Revolucion!!! 
Crowd cheers excitedly:  Wii Wii!!!  
And if anybody asks who started this, blame CANADA!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Aaron and Dan!  Let&#8217;s boycott IE!  Nobody develop for IE ANYMORE!!!<br />
Crowd says: HERE HERE!!!<br />
Let IE die like old people on WebTV!!! Viva La Revolucion!!!<br />
Crowd cheers excitedly:  Wii Wii!!!<br />
And if anybody asks who started this, blame CANADA!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dan.  Screw IE 6 users.  In fact, screw IE users across the board.  My stats are now showing that across all the sites I work on / with, Firefox is pushing between 53 and 69% of the total visitorship.  IE is losing market share and I&#039;m a happy camper because of it.  On one site, IE (altogether) is only an 18% share of the total visitors (and is being beaten by Safari with a solid 22%).  A fact that makes me as giddy as a 14 year old girl in the mall with mommy&#039;s credit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dan.  Screw IE 6 users.  In fact, screw IE users across the board.  My stats are now showing that across all the sites I work on / with, Firefox is pushing between 53 and 69% of the total visitorship.  IE is losing market share and I&#8217;m a happy camper because of it.  On one site, IE (altogether) is only an 18% share of the total visitors (and is being beaten by Safari with a solid 22%).  A fact that makes me as giddy as a 14 year old girl in the mall with mommy&#8217;s credit card.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have the IE users suffer for using a bad browser than cater to their requirements. Maybe if they suffered more, they&#039;d switch already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have the IE users suffer for using a bad browser than cater to their requirements. Maybe if they suffered more, they&#8217;d switch already!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least starting with CS3, photoshop offers PNG8&#039;s in the &quot;save for web&quot; dialog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least starting with CS3, photoshop offers PNG8&#8217;s in the &#8220;save for web&#8221; dialog.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pvc granül</title>
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		<dc:creator>pvc granül</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I switched from png to gif in photoshop save, and it crunched the bg image down from 3.6kb to 300bytes.

that is almost 100 times smaller in size, how can I get that kind of compression with .png? Do i really have to use some 3rd party tool to shrink them? Why not just use .gif for small images (like tiled backgrounds)?

pvc granül</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switched from png to gif in photoshop save, and it crunched the bg image down from 3.6kb to 300bytes.</p>
<p>that is almost 100 times smaller in size, how can I get that kind of compression with .png? Do i really have to use some 3rd party tool to shrink them? Why not just use .gif for small images (like tiled backgrounds)?</p>
<p>pvc granül</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: zorella</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... how did I not know this existed?! Not only has this fixed a major issue, but it&#039;s cut my file sizes to a third.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. how did I not know this existed?! Not only has this fixed a major issue, but it&#8217;s cut my file sizes to a third.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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