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	<title>Comments on: And the Inaugural &#8216;Electric Floor&#8217; Award goes to&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: HF</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-498947</link>
		<dc:creator>HF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I also propose the mind-blowing setup of Quickbooks Online?

(accounting.quickbooks.com)

It won't work on any browser but IE/Windows, because it requires you to install an ActiveX control and turn off pop-up blocking.

When I use it, I don't see much that couldn't be done through clever use of JavaScript.

I can't decide if it's an "electric floor" or just a "let's party like it's 1997" award-- because they expect you to roll back 10 years of learning on how to interact with the web.

We finally train users "turn off the popups and don't download ActiveX controls" and here comes Intuit telling us to ignore that.  I bet it really frustrates companies which would try to technically batten down systems with policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I also propose the mind-blowing setup of Quickbooks Online?</p>
<p>(accounting.quickbooks.com)</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t work on any browser but IE/Windows, because it requires you to install an ActiveX control and turn off pop-up blocking.</p>
<p>When I use it, I don&#8217;t see much that couldn&#8217;t be done through clever use of JavaScript.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t decide if it&#8217;s an &#8220;electric floor&#8221; or just a &#8220;let&#8217;s party like it&#8217;s 1997&#8243; award&#8211; because they expect you to roll back 10 years of learning on how to interact with the web.</p>
<p>We finally train users &#8220;turn off the popups and don&#8217;t download ActiveX controls&#8221; and here comes Intuit telling us to ignore that.  I bet it really frustrates companies which would try to technically batten down systems with policies.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul Annesley</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-391725</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Annesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Users who do not have JavaScript available for reasons relating to accessibility or mobile devices are not the only ones to consider. 

I'm one of many people who use the &lt;a href="http://noscript.net/" rel="nofollow"&gt;NoScript&lt;/a&gt; Firefox extension to prevent JavaScript and Flash execution on sites which I have not explicitly white-listed.

Apart from making me far safer from most XSS and other malicious JavaScript attacks,  it also makes it far easier to find new "Electric Floor" award nominees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Users who do not have JavaScript available for reasons relating to accessibility or mobile devices are not the only ones to consider. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of many people who use the <a href="http://noscript.net/" rel="nofollow">NoScript</a> Firefox extension to prevent JavaScript and Flash execution on sites which I have not explicitly white-listed.</p>
<p>Apart from making me far safer from most XSS and other malicious JavaScript attacks,  it also makes it far easier to find new &#8220;Electric Floor&#8221; award nominees.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chris ward</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-387316</link>
		<dc:creator>chris ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastiaan,

And then you go and highlight an ASP.net website... which is a very important thing to wonder about now.

Web-form submissions posted by the ASP.net platform rely heavily on JS!

Anyone found a fallback mechanism to get around this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastiaan,</p>
<p>And then you go and highlight an ASP.net website&#8230; which is a very important thing to wonder about now.</p>
<p>Web-form submissions posted by the ASP.net platform rely heavily on JS!</p>
<p>Anyone found a fallback mechanism to get around this?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sebastiaan Stok</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-387197</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastiaan Stok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of dutch banks rely on JavaScript to function.
My mothers bank will not even load when JavaScript is disabled! Or when there is high traffic...

How about. Live Mail :) That dose not work without JavaScript either!

" Anonymous Says:


&lt;blockquote&gt;September 19th, 2007 at 4:24 am

Basically if somebody is not using javascript then they should not be allowed in. Simple as that. I’d recommend the author give up on IT and go join a culture that does not require much thought."&lt;/blockquote&gt;


My deer friend that what we call being lease!
Every one can build an website just like everyone can fix a car, but really doing it the correct way is art.

Good article!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of dutch banks rely on JavaScript to function.<br />
My mothers bank will not even load when JavaScript is disabled! Or when there is high traffic&#8230;</p>
<p>How about. Live Mail :) That dose not work without JavaScript either!</p>
<p>&#8221; Anonymous Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>September 19th, 2007 at 4:24 am</p>
<p>Basically if somebody is not using javascript then they should not be allowed in. Simple as that. I’d recommend the author give up on IT and go join a culture that does not require much thought.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>My deer friend that what we call being lease!<br />
Every one can build an website just like everyone can fix a car, but really doing it the correct way is art.</p>
<p>Good article!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cranial-bore</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-386679</link>
		<dc:creator>cranial-bore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm switching to MasterCard.

The worst thing about this Visa example is that it'd have been EASIER to NOT depend on JavaScript. It just happens to have been created by someone who had a JS itch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m switching to MasterCard.</p>
<p>The worst thing about this Visa example is that it&#8217;d have been EASIER to NOT depend on JavaScript. It just happens to have been created by someone who had a JS itch.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-386537</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh i also should have pointed out the obvious:

&#60;noscript&#62;TAGS&#60;/noscript&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh i also should have pointed out the obvious:</p>
<p>&lt;noscript&gt;TAGS&lt;/noscript&gt;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-386535</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So its your way or the highway then I guess?

It's about accessibility. Blind users have javascript disabled a lot of the time. You are now saying that mr blindy can't use the online services of his credit card of choice because he doesn't have an OPTIONAL technology enabled on his browser. Because if Blindy Mc Blindness had said technology enabled his screen reader would break.

Thats ignorant. Standards + Accessibility need to be planned for and implemented in any web situation that calls for it. Some monkey's blog doesn't necessarily need it, but a site that provides a standard service would. And in this case Visa should be ashamed..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So its your way or the highway then I guess?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about accessibility. Blind users have javascript disabled a lot of the time. You are now saying that mr blindy can&#8217;t use the online services of his credit card of choice because he doesn&#8217;t have an OPTIONAL technology enabled on his browser. Because if Blindy Mc Blindness had said technology enabled his screen reader would break.</p>
<p>Thats ignorant. Standards + Accessibility need to be planned for and implemented in any web situation that calls for it. Some monkey&#8217;s blog doesn&#8217;t necessarily need it, but a site that provides a standard service would. And in this case Visa should be ashamed..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-386490</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically if somebody is not using javascript then they should not be allowed in. Simple as that. I'd recommend the author give up on IT and go join a culture that does not require much thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically if somebody is not using javascript then they should not be allowed in. Simple as that. I&#8217;d recommend the author give up on IT and go join a culture that does not require much thought.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chris ward</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/and-the-inaugural-electric-floor-award-goes-to/#comment-386154</link>
		<dc:creator>chris ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google can't parse javascript, to the best of my knowledge?

It wouldn't be able to reach page #2, but this is probably linked to from other sources on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google can&#8217;t parse javascript, to the best of my knowledge?</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be able to reach page #2, but this is probably linked to from other sources on the internet.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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