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	<title>Comments on: Throw your Mac out the Window!</title>
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		<title>By: ohmz</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/17/throw-your-mac-out-the-window/comment-page-2/#comment-797529</link>
		<dc:creator>ohmz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know about everyone else but where i might save 3.5 seconds using a keyboard shortcut on windows i might say, have my file systems destroyed on my external hard drives or perhaps have a nastly little infection in the system 32 department, which would say require as it often does a reinstall of windows and the restoration of everything that made your computer different from all the factory defaults, how many 3.5 seconds does that take (at least a couple thousand i would say and before anyone replys to this you should know all of these things have happened to me MANY MANY MANY times and in a myriad of different ways) since i went mac after 7 odd years of windows i couldn&#039;t be happier. everything works, theres consistency, stability and the windows dont rub off on each other or on other programs (something windows never managed to work out). I now seriously resent the !!!VAST!!! amount of time i have wasted maintaining and re-downloading all my beloved media. I would say to anyone who has not had anyone describe them as a geek, go mac and never look back. all the super command line and anti gui gimps out there, keep your shoddy OS just dont go around telling people that it works because its simply not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know about everyone else but where i might save 3.5 seconds using a keyboard shortcut on windows i might say, have my file systems destroyed on my external hard drives or perhaps have a nastly little infection in the system 32 department, which would say require as it often does a reinstall of windows and the restoration of everything that made your computer different from all the factory defaults, how many 3.5 seconds does that take (at least a couple thousand i would say and before anyone replys to this you should know all of these things have happened to me MANY MANY MANY times and in a myriad of different ways) since i went mac after 7 odd years of windows i couldn&#8217;t be happier. everything works, theres consistency, stability and the windows dont rub off on each other or on other programs (something windows never managed to work out). I now seriously resent the !!!VAST!!! amount of time i have wasted maintaining and re-downloading all my beloved media. I would say to anyone who has not had anyone describe them as a geek, go mac and never look back. all the super command line and anti gui gimps out there, keep your shoddy OS just dont go around telling people that it works because its simply not true.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: oblivion</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/17/throw-your-mac-out-the-window/comment-page-2/#comment-789530</link>
		<dc:creator>oblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do not know how to use a mac then don&#039;t use it- Macs are made for shortcuts, consider the buttons labeled with symbols for shortcuts and ALL shortcuts can be changed in System Prefs so get a better excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not know how to use a mac then don&#8217;t use it- Macs are made for shortcuts, consider the buttons labeled with symbols for shortcuts and ALL shortcuts can be changed in System Prefs so get a better excuse.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the tiny bit of pointing and clicking is easily worth the realiability of my Mac Pro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the tiny bit of pointing and clicking is easily worth the realiability of my Mac Pro.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bill Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/17/throw-your-mac-out-the-window/comment-page-2/#comment-701704</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows sucks, ive been a windows user for 6 years of my life, and ive just started using mac, i&#039;d rather not go back to shitty ass windows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows sucks, ive been a windows user for 6 years of my life, and ive just started using mac, i&#8217;d rather not go back to shitty ass windows</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: psnyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>psnyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got suckered by the hype about how great the Mac would be for java development.

If you are a switcher who uses the mouse heavily and doesn&#039;t even know that CTRL-RIGHTARROW should take you to the beginning of the next word, you won&#039;t notice much difference.

If, like me, you rely on keyboard navigation, (word-left, word-right, end-of-line, etc.) to boost your productivity, RUN AWAY FROM THE MAC -- IT WILL KILL YOUR PRODUCTIVITY.

The answer is not for me to retrain myself (I will install Linux on this hardware as soon as I can.)  The answer would be for Apple to provide an alternate mode to make their product more switcher-friendly.

PS. Don&#039;t believe someone who tells you these can all be re-mapped, I don&#039;t believe that anyone has done this successfully for consistent behavior in different applications the way we expect from Linux or Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got suckered by the hype about how great the Mac would be for java development.</p>
<p>If you are a switcher who uses the mouse heavily and doesn&#8217;t even know that CTRL-RIGHTARROW should take you to the beginning of the next word, you won&#8217;t notice much difference.</p>
<p>If, like me, you rely on keyboard navigation, (word-left, word-right, end-of-line, etc.) to boost your productivity, RUN AWAY FROM THE MAC &#8212; IT WILL KILL YOUR PRODUCTIVITY.</p>
<p>The answer is not for me to retrain myself (I will install Linux on this hardware as soon as I can.)  The answer would be for Apple to provide an alternate mode to make their product more switcher-friendly.</p>
<p>PS. Don&#8217;t believe someone who tells you these can all be re-mapped, I don&#8217;t believe that anyone has done this successfully for consistent behavior in different applications the way we expect from Linux or Windows.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Terrapin</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/17/throw-your-mac-out-the-window/comment-page-2/#comment-535510</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrapin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!

I honestly completely disagreed with 98% of what you said.. I find keyboards on a mac easier than windows, and I have also been using both for some time now, up until my studio officially &quot;switched&quot; in 2003.

Anyway, kudos for taking such a long time to get one over on your friend.

*Command-Q&#039;s screen*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!</p>
<p>I honestly completely disagreed with 98% of what you said.. I find keyboards on a mac easier than windows, and I have also been using both for some time now, up until my studio officially &#8220;switched&#8221; in 2003.</p>
<p>Anyway, kudos for taking such a long time to get one over on your friend.</p>
<p>*Command-Q&#8217;s screen*</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cymrojazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>cymrojazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I now use macs too infrequently (out of choice) for keyboard shortcuts to be an issue.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;I suspect if you were a real power use&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Perhaps I should first of all revise my first statement that it isn&#039;t entirley out of choice that I no longer use Macs but I&#039;m not missing using them.

and as far as some of the shouting and posturing, (and I&#039;m not saying which side is the worst culprit) your Mac/PC may or may not be better than my PC/Mac but my dad is bigger than yours .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I now use macs too infrequently (out of choice) for keyboard shortcuts to be an issue.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;I suspect if you were a real power use&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Perhaps I should first of all revise my first statement that it isn&#8217;t entirley out of choice that I no longer use Macs but I&#8217;m not missing using them.</p>
<p>and as far as some of the shouting and posturing, (and I&#8217;m not saying which side is the worst culprit) your Mac/PC may or may not be better than my PC/Mac but my dad is bigger than yours &#8230;..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has published a list of shortcuts that are reserved for the system. Some of these are already in use by OS X, and some are for future implementation. Cmd-space is/was among those shortcuts reserved for the system. It is certainly not Apple&#039;s fault that Adobe&#039;s developers made a poor choice for the shortcuts; Apple gave them sufficient warning that they would conflict with system shortcuts. 

Also, It is not objective to criticize Apple&#039;s keyboard shortcut implementation, when they have included the ability for users to easily customize those shortcuts.

Apple has a far superior menubar location (at the top of the screen) compared to Windows&#039; (at the top of the window), which significantly speeds up access via mouse. I am MUCH faster on a Mac mousing (actually track padding) around, compared to using keyboard shortcuts (especially in combination with the bottom row enter key, which I use far more often that the return key, since I don&#039;t have to remove my hand from the trackpad). Studies have shown this to be consistently true with nearly all users. Of course, studies have also shown that keyboard shortcuts nearly universally SEEM faster to the user, despite the stopwatch showing otherwise, due to the increased complexity of keyboard shortcuts compared to mousing. (Google: tog keyboard vs mouse)

@UndergroundFX

I suspect if you were a real power user, you would be aware that showing file extensions (or not) can be toggled in Finder&#039;s preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has published a list of shortcuts that are reserved for the system. Some of these are already in use by OS X, and some are for future implementation. Cmd-space is/was among those shortcuts reserved for the system. It is certainly not Apple&#8217;s fault that Adobe&#8217;s developers made a poor choice for the shortcuts; Apple gave them sufficient warning that they would conflict with system shortcuts. </p>
<p>Also, It is not objective to criticize Apple&#8217;s keyboard shortcut implementation, when they have included the ability for users to easily customize those shortcuts.</p>
<p>Apple has a far superior menubar location (at the top of the screen) compared to Windows&#8217; (at the top of the window), which significantly speeds up access via mouse. I am MUCH faster on a Mac mousing (actually track padding) around, compared to using keyboard shortcuts (especially in combination with the bottom row enter key, which I use far more often that the return key, since I don&#8217;t have to remove my hand from the trackpad). Studies have shown this to be consistently true with nearly all users. Of course, studies have also shown that keyboard shortcuts nearly universally SEEM faster to the user, despite the stopwatch showing otherwise, due to the increased complexity of keyboard shortcuts compared to mousing. (Google: tog keyboard vs mouse)</p>
<p>@UndergroundFX</p>
<p>I suspect if you were a real power user, you would be aware that showing file extensions (or not) can be toggled in Finder&#8217;s preferences.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ben Overmyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Overmyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go click the Start button to shut down my PC. That makes sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or you could just push the power button, which DOES make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go click the Start button to shut down my PC. That makes sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or you could just push the power button, which DOES make sense.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cymrojazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>cymrojazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;IE7 is rubbish. try developing a website that works properly on it - microsoft have never heard of complying with standards, or perhaps they are just too arrogant to care&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Which is why Firefox is my default browser on my pcs - hey it even works on the nonsense that is Vista!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;IE7 is rubbish. try developing a website that works properly on it &#8211; microsoft have never heard of complying with standards, or perhaps they are just too arrogant to care&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Which is why Firefox is my default browser on my pcs &#8211; hey it even works on the nonsense that is Vista!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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