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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-747648</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-321117</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are funny with Flash slowing down pages... maybe you should ge to gmail and see how long it is to load the page!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are funny with Flash slowing down pages&#8230; maybe you should ge to gmail and see how long it is to load the page!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: andrelle</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-319206</link>
		<dc:creator>andrelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is an excellent article, especially with the inclusion of the Tactile examples.  However, he did mention Scriptaculous in the original article. A simple check of that site reveals a wealth of info.

While I agree that keeping web pages simple is ideal, without all the Flash-enabled garbage slowing things down, adding basic desktop functionality to a site makes perfect sense, especially when you review the drag-and-drop shopping cart app on Scriptaculous.  That's a very simple implementation, and very intuitive to the user.  This has great potential, not only with shopping apps but in the social networking space as well.  And to be honest, if you are going to use Javascript to provide progressive enhancements to your site, you would also provide a separate version for users who do not have Javascript available.  For example, the user with Javascript turned off has a normal shopping cart experience. Those with it turned on have the drag-and-drop features. This functionality doesn't take very long to implement, since the libraries are already provided for you.  I'm adding some of these features to my own site, and its not a time-consuming endeavor.  Simplicity is good in many cases, but I think we need to start thinking about better improvements to the user experience to draw more traffic to our sites, and these are excellent ideas for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is an excellent article, especially with the inclusion of the Tactile examples.  However, he did mention Scriptaculous in the original article. A simple check of that site reveals a wealth of info.</p>
<p>While I agree that keeping web pages simple is ideal, without all the Flash-enabled garbage slowing things down, adding basic desktop functionality to a site makes perfect sense, especially when you review the drag-and-drop shopping cart app on Scriptaculous.  That&#8217;s a very simple implementation, and very intuitive to the user.  This has great potential, not only with shopping apps but in the social networking space as well.  And to be honest, if you are going to use Javascript to provide progressive enhancements to your site, you would also provide a separate version for users who do not have Javascript available.  For example, the user with Javascript turned off has a normal shopping cart experience. Those with it turned on have the drag-and-drop features. This functionality doesn&#8217;t take very long to implement, since the libraries are already provided for you.  I&#8217;m adding some of these features to my own site, and its not a time-consuming endeavor.  Simplicity is good in many cases, but I think we need to start thinking about better improvements to the user experience to draw more traffic to our sites, and these are excellent ideas for doing so.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: veridicus</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-314379</link>
		<dc:creator>veridicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the idea of making web applications more like desktop applications.  It may be convenient in some cases, but web pages were only designed to be simple documents.  Also, these days you can make full desktop applications within the firefox browser and serve them from the web, so why try to cram the functionality into a web page?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the idea of making web applications more like desktop applications.  It may be convenient in some cases, but web pages were only designed to be simple documents.  Also, these days you can make full desktop applications within the firefox browser and serve them from the web, so why try to cram the functionality into a web page?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ikonified</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-310383</link>
		<dc:creator>Ikonified</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'd be surprised at how many users DON"T know that Drag and Drop exists (even in the desktop world).

I sat down and watched a user use a desktop email application and when I asked why they didn't drag their messages into other folders, the response was, "What do you mean drag?"

It was an eye opener to say the least.  

My suggestion is to sit down with non-techie users and see how they interact with their machines.  You'd be very surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d be surprised at how many users DON&#8221;T know that Drag and Drop exists (even in the desktop world).</p>
<p>I sat down and watched a user use a desktop email application and when I asked why they didn&#8217;t drag their messages into other folders, the response was, &#8220;What do you mean drag?&#8221;</p>
<p>It was an eye opener to say the least.  </p>
<p>My suggestion is to sit down with non-techie users and see how they interact with their machines.  You&#8217;d be very surprised.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MystaMax</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-309740</link>
		<dc:creator>MystaMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as for myself, I'd have to say I appreciate these types of articles. Although I can see where others are coming from.

I'm enrolling in classes this fall that pertain to this very subject and its good to see these intro / idea building articles. Variety is good. So, job well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as for myself, I&#8217;d have to say I appreciate these types of articles. Although I can see where others are coming from.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m enrolling in classes this fall that pertain to this very subject and its good to see these intro / idea building articles. Variety is good. So, job well done.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brothercake</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-309398</link>
		<dc:creator>brothercake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drag n Drop is a great interface paradigm, but the vast majority of implementations are mouse-specific. It would be great to see more keyboard accessible drag-n-drop being used: http://www.brothercake.com/site/resources/scripts/dbx/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drag n Drop is a great interface paradigm, but the vast majority of implementations are mouse-specific. It would be great to see more keyboard accessible drag-n-drop being used: <a href="http://www.brothercake.com/site/resources/scripts/dbx/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brothercake.com/site/resources/scripts/dbx/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ian Muir</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-309175</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here some examples I've put together quickly to demonstrate some of the ideas. &lt;a href="http://ian.sundermedia.com/examples/tactile/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Tactile Examples&lt;/a&gt;

@Isreal
I would agree that simplicity is important. However, the idea of dragging items into folders or minimizing panels/windows is a simple and familiar task for most users.

@LiQ
Sorry, my bad. I should have been a bit more thorough with the initial post with samples and screen caps. As far as cross-browser support goes, most of the more popular javascript libraries, JQuery, Dojo, Scriptaculous, are pretty solid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here some examples I&#8217;ve put together quickly to demonstrate some of the ideas. <a href="http://ian.sundermedia.com/examples/tactile/" rel="nofollow">Tactile Examples</a></p>
<p>@Isreal<br />
I would agree that simplicity is important. However, the idea of dragging items into folders or minimizing panels/windows is a simple and familiar task for most users.</p>
<p>@LiQ<br />
Sorry, my bad. I should have been a bit more thorough with the initial post with samples and screen caps. As far as cross-browser support goes, most of the more popular javascript libraries, JQuery, Dojo, Scriptaculous, are pretty solid.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LiQ</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-308963</link>
		<dc:creator>LiQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on man, links, code-examples, pictures, sections with different font... give us anything.

I agree with above, what about keeping it simple? Spending hours and hours developing flashy interfaces and suddenly it's all spoiled by a browser with turned off javascript.

Or something bigger like cross browser incompability, javascript-function turned off in big browsers because of security issues (or whatever) or, as allways, different behaviour from javascript between different browsers.

Gmail, Netvibes and lots of other big Web 2.0-pages behaves different between IE and Firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on man, links, code-examples, pictures, sections with different font&#8230; give us anything.</p>
<p>I agree with above, what about keeping it simple? Spending hours and hours developing flashy interfaces and suddenly it&#8217;s all spoiled by a browser with turned off javascript.</p>
<p>Or something bigger like cross browser incompability, javascript-function turned off in big browsers because of security issues (or whatever) or, as allways, different behaviour from javascript between different browsers.</p>
<p>Gmail, Netvibes and lots of other big Web 2.0-pages behaves different between IE and Firefox.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: IanMuir</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/17/creating-a-tactile-interface/#comment-308914</link>
		<dc:creator>IanMuir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this was less technical than you were expecting. Based on some discussions I've had over the past few months, it seemed that many teams had been tasked with this kind of thing and were focusing more on data.

I can put together a few code samples. In the meantime, there are a few good tutorials to get started on at &lt;a href="http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/DragAndDrop" rel="nofollow"&gt;Scriptaculous&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this was less technical than you were expecting. Based on some discussions I&#8217;ve had over the past few months, it seemed that many teams had been tasked with this kind of thing and were focusing more on data.</p>
<p>I can put together a few code samples. In the meantime, there are a few good tutorials to get started on at <a href="http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/DragAndDrop" rel="nofollow">Scriptaculous</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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