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	<title>Comments on: iPhoney: Test Your Site for iPhone Compatibility</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-312109</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is incorrect:

"You can instruct it to disable plugins such as Flash and JavaScript, which aren’t yet supported by the iPhone."

While the iphone doesn't support Flash or Java Applets, it does in fact support most Javascript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is incorrect:</p>
<p>&#8220;You can instruct it to disable plugins such as Flash and JavaScript, which aren’t yet supported by the iPhone.&#8221;</p>
<p>While the iphone doesn&#8217;t support Flash or Java Applets, it does in fact support most Javascript.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AlexW</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-309477</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How accurate is ‘pretty accurate’ because I know the design view rendering of both DW and Contribute CS3 leaves a lot to be desired?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Device Central is a great concept but I'm bit skeptical. It has all the phone mockups and correct screensizes pre-programmed so if you're just looking to size graphics or test navigation reainto but whether what you see in Device Central is exactly what the rendering engine in your phone would generate is maybe more questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How accurate is ‘pretty accurate’ because I know the design view rendering of both DW and Contribute CS3 leaves a lot to be desired?</p></blockquote>
<p>Device Central is a great concept but I&#8217;m bit skeptical. It has all the phone mockups and correct screensizes pre-programmed so if you&#8217;re just looking to size graphics or test navigation reainto but whether what you see in Device Central is exactly what the rendering engine in your phone would generate is maybe more questionable.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tyssen</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-309332</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dreamweaver CS3 has a system called Device Central which allows you to view your sites offline in any mobile phone that can surf the web, and it’s pretty accurate!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How accurate is 'pretty accurate' because I know the design view rendering of both DW and Contribute CS3 leaves a lot to be desired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dreamweaver CS3 has a system called Device Central which allows you to view your sites offline in any mobile phone that can surf the web, and it’s pretty accurate!</p></blockquote>
<p>How accurate is &#8216;pretty accurate&#8217; because I know the design view rendering of both DW and Contribute CS3 leaves a lot to be desired?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: wads</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-309321</link>
		<dc:creator>wads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreamweaver CS3 has a system called Device Central which allows you to view your sites offline in any mobile phone that can surf the web, and it's pretty accurate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreamweaver CS3 has a system called Device Central which allows you to view your sites offline in any mobile phone that can surf the web, and it&#8217;s pretty accurate!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mountainash</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-299596</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a closer experience (than Opera) you can download the Safari beta (available for Mac and Windows) and try your site at http://iphonetester.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a closer experience (than Opera) you can download the Safari beta (available for Mac and Windows) and try your site at <a href="http://iphonetester.com/" rel="nofollow">http://iphonetester.com/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: elemental70</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-298848</link>
		<dc:creator>elemental70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this work on linux?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this work on linux?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brothercake</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-298380</link>
		<dc:creator>brothercake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Opera in "small-screen rendering" mode uses handheld media CSS where available.

Does Safari on the iphone use handheld media? Is it comparable with Safari on the desktop, or with any other mobile device?

I hate to be a cynic, but unless the software accurately emulates the client environment, it's basically useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Opera in &#8220;small-screen rendering&#8221; mode uses handheld media CSS where available.</p>
<p>Does Safari on the iphone use handheld media? Is it comparable with Safari on the desktop, or with any other mobile device?</p>
<p>I hate to be a cynic, but unless the software accurately emulates the client environment, it&#8217;s basically useless.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AlexW</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-298282</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd think so. I know Opera Mobile supports the 'handheld' media type when it's used, so I'd presume Shift F11 does the same on the full Opera Browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think so. I know Opera Mobile supports the &#8216;handheld&#8217; media type when it&#8217;s used, so I&#8217;d presume Shift F11 does the same on the full Opera Browser.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tyssen</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-298241</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah OK, but you can simulate Opera Mobile by selecting Shift + F11 within your normal desktop browser so maybe that'd be close?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah OK, but you can simulate Opera Mobile by selecting Shift + F11 within your normal desktop browser so maybe that&#8217;d be close?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AlexW</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/07/09/iphoney-test-your-site-for-iphone-compatibility/#comment-298239</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Look forward to a Windows version being available soon but I’m wondering if using the Opera Mini demo would get you close enough in the interim? Usually if your site looks right in Opera, it’ll be pretty close in Safari so you’d think that if it looks OK in Opera Mini, it wouldn’t be too far out on the iPhone.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'd guess that Opera Mobile rather Opera Mini would be a closer match to how Safari on iPhone behaves. Opera mini pages are processed, stripped and compressed on the server before they make it client on your phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Look forward to a Windows version being available soon but I’m wondering if using the Opera Mini demo would get you close enough in the interim? Usually if your site looks right in Opera, it’ll be pretty close in Safari so you’d think that if it looks OK in Opera Mini, it wouldn’t be too far out on the iPhone.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d guess that Opera Mobile rather Opera Mini would be a closer match to how Safari on iPhone behaves. Opera mini pages are processed, stripped and compressed on the server before they make it client on your phone.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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