Comments on: Now you can be as cool as me - GO GET CF 8 BETA! http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:39:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: tgoyer http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-271794 tgoyer Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:41:53 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-271794 Yeah.. Image manipulation was definately needed. You could still import libraries to do some of those things, couldn't ya? If I recall from my CF4 days, wasn't there some CFIMPORT block or something you could use to bring in external resources (COM DLLs, etc)? Yeah.. Image manipulation was definately needed. You could still import libraries to do some of those things, couldn’t ya? If I recall from my CF4 days, wasn’t there some CFIMPORT block or something you could use to bring in external resources (COM DLLs, etc)?

]]> By: davidjmedlock http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-271719 davidjmedlock Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:11:27 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-271719 If you're going to make bold and uneducated comments, at least have the decency to post some sort of nom de plume so that we can attribute your brilliance to someone other than an anonymous user. It clearly says on the page "public beta". Public, as in: NOT private. For those who say CF is outdated or not used, you're entitled to your opinion, but there are many of us still using CF. The new version shows that it's still actively being developed and that Adobe is dedicated to its furtherance. ColdFusion's ease of use often puts it in a "lightweight" category when it comes to web development tools. Just because something's easy doesn't mean that it doesn't have a very valid place in the grand scheme of things. It's worked well for me for many years in many applications. (From one-(or-two)-man shops to well funded start ups to Fortune 500's.) I've been pretty vocal in the past about defending CF. I honestly don't care what .Net'ers or PHP'ers think about it. It suits my purposes. The new features look great. I'm expecting that some of them may be underdeveloped. That should change with time. Image manipulation, IMO, is about three versions overdue. That should've been a no brainer... Thanks for the post, Eric. If you’re going to make bold and uneducated comments, at least have the decency to post some sort of nom de plume so that we can attribute your brilliance to someone other than an anonymous user.

It clearly says on the page “public beta”. Public, as in: NOT private.

For those who say CF is outdated or not used, you’re entitled to your opinion, but there are many of us still using CF. The new version shows that it’s still actively being developed and that Adobe is dedicated to its furtherance.

ColdFusion’s ease of use often puts it in a “lightweight” category when it comes to web development tools. Just because something’s easy doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have a very valid place in the grand scheme of things. It’s worked well for me for many years in many applications. (From one-(or-two)-man shops to well funded start ups to Fortune 500’s.)

I’ve been pretty vocal in the past about defending CF. I honestly don’t care what .Net’ers or PHP’ers think about it. It suits my purposes.

The new features look great. I’m expecting that some of them may be underdeveloped. That should change with time. Image manipulation, IMO, is about three versions overdue. That should’ve been a no brainer…

Thanks for the post, Eric.

]]> By: tonybone http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-270312 tonybone Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:41:53 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-270312 To those who are insisting the NDA is still in effect -- clearly it's you who need to "do you homework". Not only does it state on the Adobe web site that CF8 is now in public beta, but CF luminaries like Ray Camden (who have been tight-lipped about CF8 during the limited private beta) are now blogging freely about the features of the new release. To the Coldfusion haters/doubters: Fortunately, no one is forcing you to use CF and you are free to use whatever technology you please, so go right ahead. But I really see no point for you to be trolling the Coldfusion blogs except to maybe start flame wars or to demonstrate your third-grade school boy "your language sucks" mentality. To those who are insisting the NDA is still in effect — clearly it’s you who need to “do you homework”. Not only does it state on the Adobe web site that CF8 is now in public beta, but CF luminaries like Ray Camden (who have been tight-lipped about CF8 during the limited private beta) are now blogging freely about the features of the new release.
To the Coldfusion haters/doubters: Fortunately, no one is forcing you to use CF and you are free to use whatever technology you please, so go right ahead. But I really see no point for you to be trolling the Coldfusion blogs except to maybe start flame wars or to demonstrate your third-grade school boy “your language sucks” mentality.

]]> By: tgoyer http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-268123 tgoyer Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:53:52 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-268123 They bother because it's a tool. A tool is useful when it fills a need. The hammer isn't any less important simply just because it was invented by apes in the pre-stone age. Personally, I'm pretty much a C# ASP.NET guy, but I like to keep my eyes open to current and future technologies. You never know when some scrap of information may prove vital. Keep your eyes and your mind open. It may save your career someday. -- T They bother because it’s a tool. A tool is useful when it fills a need. The hammer isn’t any less important simply just because it was invented by apes in the pre-stone age.

Personally, I’m pretty much a C# ASP.NET guy, but I like to keep my eyes open to current and future technologies. You never know when some scrap of information may prove vital. Keep your eyes and your mind open. It may save your career someday.

– T

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-268090 Anonymous Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:14:41 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-268090 CF is so 90s i wounder why they even bother. CF is so 90s i wounder why they even bother.

]]> By: tgoyer http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-268075 tgoyer Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:04:59 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-268075 That's kinda funny, because the download page at http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5Fadobecf8%5Fbeta says, and I quote: <blockquote> Adobe ColdFusion 8 This page contains downloads for the <em><strong>public beta release</strong></em> of ColdFusion 8. Adobe ColdFusion 8 is a must have release for ColdFusion developers. It solves the day-to-day challenges faced by developers, integrates in complex enterprise environments, and delivers rich and engaging application experiences for users. The final release of ColdFusion 8 will be available after the pre-release cycle is complete, expected in the middle of this year. </blockquote> <em>emphasis mine</em> Not that I really care, either way. I just hate it when people act like "know-it-all" jerks. Note that you can correct someone without being a jerk. It's all in the delivery. That’s kinda funny, because the download page at http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5Fadobecf8%5Fbeta
says, and I quote:

Adobe ColdFusion 8
This page contains downloads for the public beta release of ColdFusion 8.

Adobe ColdFusion 8 is a must have release for ColdFusion developers. It solves the day-to-day challenges faced by developers, integrates in complex enterprise environments, and delivers rich and engaging application experiences for users.

The final release of ColdFusion 8 will be available after the pre-release cycle is complete, expected in the middle of this year.

emphasis mine

Not that I really care, either way. I just hate it when people act like “know-it-all” jerks. Note that you can correct someone without being a jerk. It’s all in the delivery.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-268023 Anonymous Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:47:31 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-268023 Private Beta is not over. NDA is still in effect. Private Beta is not over. NDA is still in effect.

]]> By: tonybone http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-263167 tonybone Thu, 31 May 2007 09:20:33 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-263167 it's a PUBLIC BETA! Anyone can now download it from Adobe labs. The private beta is over (and therefore so is the NDA). it’s a PUBLIC BETA! Anyone can now download it from Adobe labs. The private beta is over (and therefore so is the NDA).

]]> By: MCsolas http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-262962 MCsolas Thu, 31 May 2007 02:55:51 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-262962 > CFImage—Standardized image manipulation, will it live up to the expectations, probably it has CAPTCHA built in Built in captcha would be pretty slick. At least lyla works :) > CFImage—Standardized image manipulation, will it live up to the expectations, probably it has CAPTCHA built in

Built in captcha would be pretty slick. At least lyla works :)

]]> By: anon http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/05/31/now-you-can-be-as-cool-as-me-go-get-cf-8-beta/#comment-262786 anon Wed, 30 May 2007 20:39:01 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1933#comment-262786 You're wrong - the NDA restrictions are not lifted. Do your homework - you're still not free to say you have/are participating. You’re wrong - the NDA restrictions are not lifted. Do your homework - you’re still not free to say you have/are participating.

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