Comments on: News Wire: “Flash Killer” WPF/E Preview

By: pixelsoul

pixelsoul — Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:47:07 +0000

I doubt it will be a flash killer.. remember it’s made by the same company who launched the “I-pod killer” :p

Anyways with Flex they will have a hard time with Flash as it allready makes building RIA’s a breeze ;)

By: saumendra

saumendra — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:49:55 +0000

This is really great. Although Flash environment flurished through out the web , but the simplycity of using WFP/E is the future. The comming years may not be in the same track. Adobe and Macromedia are in continous research on the web front and one can axpect a cold war (in web). Lets hold our breath and and select our flavour of choice. . .

By: mrsmiley

mrsmiley — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:33:37 +0000

There is also the small matter of a mechanism known as Windows update. Flash will always be disadvantaged here because they have to keep their download size to around 600Kb from memory because that’s what their tests show users will wait for. Every time they introduce a new feature they have to squeeze more bytes out of the runtime so put in the new stuff.

With Windows update and its BITS transfer mechanism, download size is not an issue for Microsoft. They can jam as many features into the runtime as possible. The current download is 1.1Mb. With a simple Windows update push, you already have comparable market penetration to Flash in a fraction of the time.

The flip side is there is serious potential for bloated download sizes, but if its going to perform well, it will have to optimised anyway. From what I’ve seen so far it is way more integrated than Flash, performs extremely well for a CTP and already gives you more potential than Flash on the client side.

Adobe will have a serious fight on their hands if they want to hold this back. Weirdly enough, nobody has thought about using Flash within a XAML document.

With a CTP of this quality already, it will be interesting to see what is released in future versions.

By: chris ward

chris ward — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:03:46 +0000

@ Andy Moss, please think carefully now…

guess what else is installed on >90% of online machines?

Netscape Navigator used to have a 99% share of the browser market, and we all know how that ended.

By: jmoriconi

jmoriconi — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:41:50 +0000

It will be interesting to see how WFP/E pans out. I’ve long hated flash, and have longed for better SVG support w/in HTML documents so that some graphics manipulation could be offloaded to the client’s browser w/out hogging system resources and alienating visually impaired visitors like flash does. As much as i hate to admit it, i believe microsoft could have a hit on their hands if they play their cards right.

By: Andy Moss

Andy Moss — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:22:37 +0000

flash will never be killed, its installed on too many machines (>90% of online computer id guess) where as wtf, sorry wpfe is installed on 0.09 computers (i left the percentage off to prove my point, nobody has it!)

By: chris ward

chris ward — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:29:32 +0000

Kevin, let’s not beat around the bush here!

XAML, “Flash, PDF, HTML KILLER”

Everyone, seriously… WAKE UP NOW