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		<title>By: Phill Arrowsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-319087</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill Arrowsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have the problem of IE7 not loading the graphics properly, ie. pictures don't fully load they pixulate but do not complete. I have searched for an answer everywhere and can't find one I am about to dump IE7 and go back to IE6. Any suggestions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have the problem of IE7 not loading the graphics properly, ie. pictures don&#8217;t fully load they pixulate but do not complete. I have searched for an answer everywhere and can&#8217;t find one I am about to dump IE7 and go back to IE6. Any suggestions</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sds</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-79488</link>
		<dc:creator>sds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell's online store (http://www.dell.com) would not work in IE7 on Wed., November 1.  I had to use Firefox to place the order.  This is fine with me since I prefer Firefox.  But Dell might take issue with IE7's incompatibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell&#8217;s online store (http://www.dell.com) would not work in IE7 on Wed., November 1.  I had to use Firefox to place the order.  This is fine with me since I prefer Firefox.  But Dell might take issue with IE7&#8217;s incompatibility.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LaliaTK</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-77728</link>
		<dc:creator>LaliaTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WebCT Vista 4 doesn't support IE7 at all.  From what I've seen of our soon-to-be-upgraded package, it keeps popping up a browser-checking window and telling me to get a compatible browser.  Heehee.

(Our home-grown online course platform, however, works just fine.  [I work at a university.]  That's what you get for paying millions of dollars for something you've already got.  Stupid administration.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WebCT Vista 4 doesn&#8217;t support IE7 at all.  From what I&#8217;ve seen of our soon-to-be-upgraded package, it keeps popping up a browser-checking window and telling me to get a compatible browser.  Heehee.</p>
<p>(Our home-grown online course platform, however, works just fine.  [I work at a university.]  That&#8217;s what you get for paying millions of dollars for something you&#8217;ve already got.  Stupid administration.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: clintonG</title>
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		<dc:creator>clintonG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open and pin the Favorites Center. Load Organize Favorites and create a new Folder called "1DeleteMe" and then Sort By Name to float 1DeleteMe to the top of the tree.

Drag 1DeleteMe into and out of Folders and it will be gone on the first drag but not neccessarily so. It may disappear on the second or third drag operation.

Can anybody replicate?

I migrated all of my Favorites to Firefox and it has some quirks but I then realized those quirks were simply doing something a bit differently. Like creating a new folder in the Bookmarks collection feels quirky until you learn it is a two step operation.

Firefox sure seems so much easier to use than IE and of course is quite easily extensible.

I'll still need IE7 because it installs the Windowss RSS Platform which is not otherwise available unless running Vista but I'm using Firefox more and more on a daily basis and all that I really need to go full-time is a way to synchronize Bookmarks with Favorites.

Isn't it ironic? Microsoft's SyncToy will synchronize Bookmarks and Favorites but some process must transform the format when synchronizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open and pin the Favorites Center. Load Organize Favorites and create a new Folder called &#8220;1DeleteMe&#8221; and then Sort By Name to float 1DeleteMe to the top of the tree.</p>
<p>Drag 1DeleteMe into and out of Folders and it will be gone on the first drag but not neccessarily so. It may disappear on the second or third drag operation.</p>
<p>Can anybody replicate?</p>
<p>I migrated all of my Favorites to Firefox and it has some quirks but I then realized those quirks were simply doing something a bit differently. Like creating a new folder in the Bookmarks collection feels quirky until you learn it is a two step operation.</p>
<p>Firefox sure seems so much easier to use than IE and of course is quite easily extensible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll still need IE7 because it installs the Windowss RSS Platform which is not otherwise available unless running Vista but I&#8217;m using Firefox more and more on a daily basis and all that I really need to go full-time is a way to synchronize Bookmarks with Favorites.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it ironic? Microsoft&#8217;s SyncToy will synchronize Bookmarks and Favorites but some process must transform the format when synchronizing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jmarkj</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-77087</link>
		<dc:creator>jmarkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a followup, I can successfully drag-and-drop links to the "pinned" Favorites menu (haven't seen any get deleted yet). so that's a bit of a workaround, but still a huge pain compared to the way it could be done with IE6. The only benefit with IE 7 is that I can now see my complete list of uncategorized favorites at the bottom of the list. IE6 must have had a memory limitation that prevented you seeing the titles of favorites beyond a certain amount. They were still "there", you just wouldn't see anything but a blank white region (that could be mysteriously scrolled, if you had a number of favorites in the list "beyond" the memory limitation. I confirmed they were there by deleting a favorite directly above the first "blank" one, which would cause that first "blank" favorite to move up in the list and become "visible".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a followup, I can successfully drag-and-drop links to the &#8220;pinned&#8221; Favorites menu (haven&#8217;t seen any get deleted yet). so that&#8217;s a bit of a workaround, but still a huge pain compared to the way it could be done with IE6. The only benefit with IE 7 is that I can now see my complete list of uncategorized favorites at the bottom of the list. IE6 must have had a memory limitation that prevented you seeing the titles of favorites beyond a certain amount. They were still &#8220;there&#8221;, you just wouldn&#8217;t see anything but a blank white region (that could be mysteriously scrolled, if you had a number of favorites in the list &#8220;beyond&#8221; the memory limitation. I confirmed they were there by deleting a favorite directly above the first &#8220;blank&#8221; one, which would cause that first &#8220;blank&#8221; favorite to move up in the list and become &#8220;visible&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jmarkj</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-77083</link>
		<dc:creator>jmarkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy clintonG, do I feel your pain. Couldn't believe that IE7 expands all the folders automatically. That's one of the most boneheaded feature changes I've ever seen Microsoft do, and they've done some doozies. I'm one of those users who has a huge favorites archive, and it's going to be e nightmare managing them now. If FireFox does this any better, this will be the thing that finally makes me switch. I haven't seen a workaround anywhere, and it sounds like there isn't one. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy clintonG, do I feel your pain. Couldn&#8217;t believe that IE7 expands all the folders automatically. That&#8217;s one of the most boneheaded feature changes I&#8217;ve ever seen Microsoft do, and they&#8217;ve done some doozies. I&#8217;m one of those users who has a huge favorites archive, and it&#8217;s going to be e nightmare managing them now. If FireFox does this any better, this will be the thing that finally makes me switch. I haven&#8217;t seen a workaround anywhere, and it sounds like there isn&#8217;t one. :-(</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hugues Lamy</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-74725</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugues Lamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our site at &lt;a href="http://m2i3.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;M2i3&lt;/a&gt; isn't being displayed correct.

On the other hand, we're making heavy use of CSS that contain IE6 hacks. I have to review them, I hope mostly remove all of them and get a nice display for the future.

Anybody share my faith?

Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our site at <a href="http://m2i3.com" rel="nofollow">M2i3</a> isn&#8217;t being displayed correct.</p>
<p>On the other hand, we&#8217;re making heavy use of CSS that contain IE6 hacks. I have to review them, I hope mostly remove all of them and get a nice display for the future.</p>
<p>Anybody share my faith?</p>
<p>Good day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: awasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>awasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clintonG that's a bit extreme but if it's causing you grief then it's a valid complaint. 

I like managing favorites in Firefox using the Manage Boookmarks item in the Bookmarks menu. I just checked and low and behold IE has added that to IE7 too. It's under the star with a plus sign icon. They could have made it much more intuitive but it is there for organizing your favorites. I don't know if it's as effective as the one in Firefox but it's much better than IE6.

I've played with it a little more and most sites are ok. I've seen some really bad renderings, mostly of sites built in .NET using MS Visual Studio .NET. That's ironic ;-)

I'm a confirmed Firefox fan so it's a hard call whether I'll switch but I sure hope they cram it down everyones throat as a critical update. (What the heck? Did I just say that?) 

Hands down, it's a much better browser than 6!

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clintonG that&#8217;s a bit extreme but if it&#8217;s causing you grief then it&#8217;s a valid complaint. </p>
<p>I like managing favorites in Firefox using the Manage Boookmarks item in the Bookmarks menu. I just checked and low and behold IE has added that to IE7 too. It&#8217;s under the star with a plus sign icon. They could have made it much more intuitive but it is there for organizing your favorites. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s as effective as the one in Firefox but it&#8217;s much better than IE6.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve played with it a little more and most sites are ok. I&#8217;ve seen some really bad renderings, mostly of sites built in .NET using MS Visual Studio .NET. That&#8217;s ironic ;-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a confirmed Firefox fan so it&#8217;s a hard call whether I&#8217;ll switch but I sure hope they cram it down everyones throat as a critical update. (What the heck? Did I just say that?) </p>
<p>Hands down, it&#8217;s a much better browser than 6!</p>
<p>Andrew</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: clintonG</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/24/ie-7-incompatibility-sightings/#comment-74639</link>
		<dc:creator>clintonG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE7 ISLIKE A VIRUS THAT DELETES FILES

DO NOT TRY TO DRAG AND DROP FAVORITES

IE7 deletes Favorites when dragged and dropped. Furthermore, this POS IE7 still has the same bug since IE4 that prevents saving a Favorite by dragging the icon of a URL from the address bar into a Favorites folder. IE complains that the page title is too long -- but we could save that same URL unmodified by going to Favorites &#62; Add to Favorites on the toolbar.

So the only work around requires using Favorites &#62; Add to Favorites right? Then what kind of surprise do we get? Some Microsoft moron altered the code to force open all Favorite folders already expanded. This makes scrolling to try to find a folder nearly impossible for those with large collections of Favorites.

Furthermore, when using Favorites &#62; Add to Favorites with IE7 the entire collection of Favorites may not even be shown so it is now impossible to save a Favorite.

USE THE IE7 VIRUS AT YOUR OWN RISK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE7 ISLIKE A VIRUS THAT DELETES FILES</p>
<p>DO NOT TRY TO DRAG AND DROP FAVORITES</p>
<p>IE7 deletes Favorites when dragged and dropped. Furthermore, this POS IE7 still has the same bug since IE4 that prevents saving a Favorite by dragging the icon of a URL from the address bar into a Favorites folder. IE complains that the page title is too long &#8212; but we could save that same URL unmodified by going to Favorites &gt; Add to Favorites on the toolbar.</p>
<p>So the only work around requires using Favorites &gt; Add to Favorites right? Then what kind of surprise do we get? Some Microsoft moron altered the code to force open all Favorite folders already expanded. This makes scrolling to try to find a folder nearly impossible for those with large collections of Favorites.</p>
<p>Furthermore, when using Favorites &gt; Add to Favorites with IE7 the entire collection of Favorites may not even be shown so it is now impossible to save a Favorite.</p>
<p>USE THE IE7 VIRUS AT YOUR OWN RISK</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stevie D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevie D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do *we* have to be prepaired for *IE7*

If it’s supposed to be so damn good, why are there a whole new set of issues that developers need to deal with?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If your site is written in pure-blooded pedigree HTML, you shouldn't need to prepare at all for IE7, you've already done that.

If your site is written in a cross-bred mongrel of hacks and bodges, it's not surprising if it doesn't work in a browser that follows the rules. If IE7 still allowed all these hacks to work, it would be no better than what went before - and we all know how bad that would be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do *we* have to be prepaired for *IE7*</p>
<p>If it’s supposed to be so damn good, why are there a whole new set of issues that developers need to deal with?</p></blockquote>
<p>If your site is written in pure-blooded pedigree HTML, you shouldn&#8217;t need to prepare at all for IE7, you&#8217;ve already done that.</p>
<p>If your site is written in a cross-bred mongrel of hacks and bodges, it&#8217;s not surprising if it doesn&#8217;t work in a browser that follows the rules. If IE7 still allowed all these hacks to work, it would be no better than what went before - and we all know how bad that would be!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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