Comments on: Be the First Kid on the Block Running IE7 Final http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:54:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Alldis http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-77797 John Alldis Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:51:44 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-77797 Internet Explorer 7 Terrific well thought out compiled and built by 'experts in their field'! Well done Microsoft very good work I like very much, my thanks to you all. To all the "I don't like it folk" I remember when XP was first released. The same 'Dinosaur' mentality abounded. Remember the ‘Win ’98 for ever’ mob! Now they are all relishing in the potential of XP and enjoying it to the max, they can see ‘the beauty/scope of it’! Don’t like it? Don’t use it; IE7 was put together by far greater minds then those of the ‘whiners’, if you are as good at criticizing ‘go build yer own browser’. If you have the mental capability (Which judging from the comments ‘I doubt!) I will happily use the latest technology available. My head is not ‘stuck in the sand’ Internet Explorer 7 Terrific well thought out compiled and built by ‘experts in their field’!
Well done Microsoft very good work I like very much, my thanks to you all.
To all the “I don’t like it folk” I remember when XP was first released. The same ‘Dinosaur’ mentality abounded.
Remember the ‘Win ’98 for ever’ mob!
Now they are all relishing in the potential of XP and enjoying it to the max, they can see ‘the beauty/scope of it’! Don’t like it? Don’t use it; IE7 was put together by far greater minds then those of the ‘whiners’, if you are as good at criticizing ‘go build yer own browser’.
If you have the mental capability (Which judging from the comments ‘I doubt!)
I will happily use the latest technology available.
My head is not ‘stuck in the sand’

]]> By: DougB http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-77622 DougB Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:10:49 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-77622 Hah and now there's rumors that IE 8 ain't far behind IE 7...wonderful! So far my testing of IE 8 indicates that it reads css far differently (and better than IE 7) but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Now more maunfacturers are signing deals with Firefox and stuff this could get interesting. Hopefully they'll all work it out so that we as designers can just get our products out without worrying about what the browsers are going to do with our scripts...sigh DougB Hah and now there’s rumors that IE 8 ain’t far behind IE 7…wonderful! So far my testing of IE 8 indicates that it reads css far differently (and better than IE 7) but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Now more maunfacturers are signing deals with Firefox and stuff this could get interesting. Hopefully they’ll all work it out so that we as designers can just get our products out without worrying about what the browsers are going to do with our scripts…sigh

DougB

]]> By: Hyper5nic http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-77559 Hyper5nic Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:49:31 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-77559 Strong minusses to me. It does not support OS's other than WinXP or WinVista and it is not available in my language! I can use FF 2.0 and Opera 9.02 without a glitch. So why would i install MS-stuff? Strong minusses to me.

It does not support OS’s other than WinXP or WinVista and it is not available in my language!

I can use FF 2.0 and Opera 9.02 without a glitch. So why would i install MS-stuff?

]]> By: awasson http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74825 awasson Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:36:44 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74825 Well it's a huge step in the right direction and hats off to the MS IE developers for listening to us when we've complained about lack of CSS support. As has been already mentioned this isn't a release for us. It's a release for the bazillion Windows users who use the browser that came with the desktop. Mac comes with Safari (Used to come with IE 5.2) Windows comes with IE. IE7 won't my main browser. FF will more than likely remain in that position but the CEO or marketing guy who's site I'm building will more than likely be using Windows and IE. Build your site based on standards and you've already done your work. Of course we still have to check back with IE6 to make sure it works right too. I did notice that like FF, IE eats up RAM in huge chunks and doesn't let it go until you close it. Andrew Well it’s a huge step in the right direction and hats off to the MS IE developers for listening to us when we’ve complained about lack of CSS support.

As has been already mentioned this isn’t a release for us. It’s a release for the bazillion Windows users who use the browser that came with the desktop. Mac comes with Safari (Used to come with IE 5.2) Windows comes with IE. IE7 won’t my main browser. FF will more than likely remain in that position but the CEO or marketing guy who’s site I’m building will more than likely be using Windows and IE.

Build your site based on standards and you’ve already done your work. Of course we still have to check back with IE6 to make sure it works right too.

I did notice that like FF, IE eats up RAM in huge chunks and doesn’t let it go until you close it.

Andrew

]]> By: mihd http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74605 mihd Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:14:21 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74605 wwb_99 true i agree with you but these are a small minority From perosnal experience alot of big companies will not install firefox (hower superior it is, yes its an excellent browser no arguing there) for one simple reason no activeX! there are tons of proprietary web apps running on intranets, also alot of companies with massive intranets force same version of a browser on all users to minimise support costs SOME people here dont seem to grasp that there are alot of non-geeks out there using IE due to reasons outside of their coptrol... as a developer IE7 is a welcome as it does have less quirks than IE6, we should be happy that things are at least progressing why dont all the whingers put "this site is best supported in Firefox @ 1024x resolution" style messages on their sites? see how quickly they loose users... wwb_99

true i agree with you but these are a small minority

From perosnal experience alot of big companies will not install firefox (hower superior it is, yes its an excellent browser no arguing there) for one simple reason

no activeX! there are tons of proprietary web apps running on intranets, also alot of companies with massive intranets force same version of a browser on all users to minimise support costs

SOME people here dont seem to grasp that there are alot of non-geeks out there using IE due to reasons outside of their coptrol…

as a developer IE7 is a welcome as it does have less quirks than IE6, we should be happy that things are at least progressing

why dont all the whingers put “this site is best supported in Firefox @ 1024x resolution” style messages on their sites? see how quickly they loose users…

]]> By: wwb_99 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74603 wwb_99 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:05:23 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74603 @mihd: you do if you are running, say, windows 2000. And there are alot of coroporate networks still on 2000. Hell, I know of several large corporate networks with significant amounts of 98 and NT4 clients floating around. @mihd: you do if you are running, say, windows 2000. And there are alot of coroporate networks still on 2000. Hell, I know of several large corporate networks with significant amounts of 98 and NT4 clients floating around.

]]> By: mihd http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74560 mihd Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:28:00 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74560 hawkshango U DONT HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OS... hawkshango

U DONT HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OS…

]]> By: hawkshango http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74559 hawkshango Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:26:55 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74559 I resent having to change my OS to simply have the latest version of IE. For now I am sticking with Firefox. As a developer however, I don't have the luxury of choosing which browser will occupy the vast real estate that is my computer. <strong>*Sigh*</strong>. I am still waiting for that new fangled OS to come out so I don't have to do the upgrade <em>twice</em>. I resent having to change my OS to simply have the latest version of IE. For now I am sticking with Firefox. As a developer however, I don’t have the luxury of choosing which browser will occupy the vast real estate that is my computer. *Sigh*. I am still waiting for that new fangled OS to come out so I don’t have to do the upgrade twice.

]]> By: web guy http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-74449 web guy Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:50:10 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-74449 It’s best to test against as many browsers as possible. The more your pages perform the same across browsers the better and more thorough developer you are. A perfect browser is like absolute truth, many do not want to conform. It’s best to test against as many browsers as possible. The more your pages perform the same across browsers the better and more thorough developer you are. A perfect browser is like absolute truth, many do not want to conform.

]]> By: are http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/comment-page-1/#comment-73728 are Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:55:32 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/10/19/be-the-first-kid-on-the-block-running-ie7-final/#comment-73728 I downloaded it yeasterday, but it totally destroyed the font in windows.. So, I removed it and installed FF2 instead... Think it has something with ClearType to do.. the text become fuzzy/blur. I downloaded it yeasterday, but it totally destroyed the font in windows.. So, I removed it and installed FF2 instead… Think it has something with ClearType to do.. the text become fuzzy/blur.

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