Comments on: The State of Web Development: PHP developers most likely to switch to Rails

By: prim8

prim8 — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:33:56 +0000

I think you will find a lot of folks in both camps (newbs and experienced devs). For example, if you are already test infected, which would you rather write?

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=439480

or this:

http://rspec.rubyforge.org/examples.html

At our local Ruby Users Group we have had 2 PHP folks show up wondering what the fuss was about and nobody from other languages (yet).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:37:08 +0000

the survey shows more php devs are looking to move to RoR because there were more php developers who participated in the survey.. everyones using php these days.. ;)

By: Matthew Magain

Matthew Magain — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:56:38 +0000

Ack. Of all the graphs in the report to publish online, I choose one with a typo.

Thanks for pointing it out Yannick, fixed now.

By: Yannick

Yannick — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:53:18 +0000

Hello,

I don’t know if that’s what chrisb was about, but the scale numbering is wrong on your graph. It did give me a bad impression, as it’s the only thing you look at when you open the page. So let’s see… 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 2, 2.5 :-)

By: dev

dev — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:19:12 +0000

well my dear friends although I’m using ruby on rails you can create exactly the same with PHP and in my experience quicker, take a look of xajax and in addition exist rumors to implement a prototype-xajax hybrid.
And to be honest I’d rather much more this combination :
PHP+XAJAX+SMARTY+ADODB+PROTOTYPE+RICO or SCRIPTACULOUS.
(Scriptaculos FX only, because the drag performance is poor)
I’m using these for another project instead ruby and I’m very happy!
and…. sorry other point that really I found terrible is the actual ruby server support is almost impossible find a server for a small client!

By: mpdesigns

mpdesigns — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:46:14 +0000

Coldfusion kicks ass if you can afford it. And please don’t use Myspace as Coldfusion’s gleeming example of a web app using coldfusion.

By: ajessup

ajessup — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:39:21 +0000

The problem here is the article is comparing Rails (a framework) to PHP (a language). It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison.

But what’s interesting the evidence that when PHP developers are looking for a Rails-like framework the they jump straight to Rails itself (and thereby having to install, learn and support Ruby as well as the framework) without considering many of the PHP frameworks like Cake or Symfony which seem to be largely analagous to Rails in terms of features but don’t need you to learn another language or technology stack.

What would be really interesting is to see a true apples-to-apples comparison of which Cake/Django/Symfony/Struts/Tapestry/Rails/Mason etc. developers are thinking about switching to another framework, and why.

And it would be really good to hear form anyone who’s had a real shot at more than one of these frameworks and which one they would choose in hindsight.

By: CityGoal

CityGoal — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:42:54 +0000

Ruby on Rails is really cool. There are limitless possiblites with it.

By: Dr Livingston

Dr Livingston — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:02:25 +0000

bollocks… there is no way in this earth i’ll give up php, for the likes of ruby.

god, i’d rather switch to python first :p

By: Someone

Someone — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:58:44 +0000

mrsmiley, Ruby probably also has database querying mechanism and recieves user input (_POST, _GET) and then you write scripts that process that input etc.
The same thing PHP / Perl / Python do.

My clients don’t ask me to create websites in specific languages. Did you ever have a client?

Broader understanding sounds ridiculous. I allready have one tool which helps me do anything. Why would i spend time learning how to anything with another tool?

Regarding hiring someone else etc. – that’s not the issue here. We were talking about a tool made for developing websites. I said that I’m pretty satisfied with the one I’ve been using for years and that I see no reason why I should spend a few days learning something else which can only harm me at this point.