Comments on: The benefits of sticking to it http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:07:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: etechsupport http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40665 etechsupport Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:31:05 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40665 Yep, success seems connected with action and possibly you need to attack your market from multiple positions and competitiveness. Yep, success seems connected with action and possibly you need to attack your market from multiple positions and competitiveness.

]]> By: pdxi http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40292 pdxi Tue, 25 Jul 2006 01:20:21 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40292 <em>Action somehow breeds results, even if the action is less effective than it could be.</em> Action always breeds results, whether they are the desired results or not; inaction only breeds undesired results. Just thought I'd throw that in to the discussion :) Action somehow breeds results, even if the action is less effective than it could be.

Action always breeds results, whether they are the desired results or not; inaction only breeds undesired results.

Just thought I’d throw that in to the discussion :)

]]> By: aneitlich http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40283 aneitlich Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:05:17 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40283 Gamermk: Great points. My only point of difference is that we all have to start somewhere. Action somehow breeds results, even if the action is less effective than it could be. For instance, meetings one person who doesn't buy can still lead to meeting others who do. And, the more "novice" we are in our approach, the less slick we appear and the more likeable we are. That's the "rookie luck" that we all hear about. Rookies have no preconceived notions and tend to ask questions and take things from a blank slate. So they perform better. Then they start getting smart, make pitches to the client, and get worse results. Finally, they learn to act like novices, in a conscious way. (This concept is borrowed from Sandler, You Can't Teach a Kid to Ride a Bike at a Seminar). Anyway, you can always improve. Start somewhere, and keep improving! The tension, of course, is when to quit if you keep not getting results. I've addressed that in other blogs -- for instance, set a stop loss or time limit so you don't go completely broke! Gamermk:

Great points. My only point of difference is that we all have to start somewhere. Action somehow breeds results, even if the action is less effective than it could be. For instance, meetings one person who doesn’t buy can still lead to meeting others who do.

And, the more “novice” we are in our approach, the less slick we appear and the more likeable we are. That’s the “rookie luck” that we all hear about. Rookies have no preconceived notions and tend to ask questions and take things from a blank slate. So they perform better. Then they start getting smart, make pitches to the client, and get worse results. Finally, they learn to act like novices, in a conscious way. (This concept is borrowed from Sandler, You Can’t Teach a Kid to Ride a Bike at a Seminar).

Anyway, you can always improve. Start somewhere, and keep improving!

The tension, of course, is when to quit if you keep not getting results. I’ve addressed that in other blogs — for instance, set a stop loss or time limit so you don’t go completely broke!

]]> By: Gamermk http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40273 Gamermk Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:32:45 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40273 The most difficult part about being persistent is that if your original strategy is flawed then you are simply wasting your time. I think dhecker is downplaying the importance of a refined message. I remember a blog entry of yours in the past Andrew on how you "cold call". I have found that to be a fantastic way to do it. Now what good would being persistent do for me if I wasn't marketting the right way? The hardest thing to learn is what is an acceptable time frame to be persistent before you have to admit you have failed and need to try something else. What if you had only tried to climb 1 corporated ladder instead of 4 before going into business yourself? This entry just seems to rely on the reader already knowing a lot in order to be helpful advice. That in its self is dangerous for a first time reader. Anyway your stuff is great Andrew, and even though I may seem critical I do appreciate the amount of FREE professional advice you give out. The most difficult part about being persistent is that if your original strategy is flawed then you are simply wasting your time. I think dhecker is downplaying the importance of a refined message.

I remember a blog entry of yours in the past Andrew on how you “cold call”. I have found that to be a fantastic way to do it. Now what good would being persistent do for me if I wasn’t marketting the right way?

The hardest thing to learn is what is an acceptable time frame to be persistent before you have to admit you have failed and need to try something else. What if you had only tried to climb 1 corporated ladder instead of 4 before going into business yourself?

This entry just seems to rely on the reader already knowing a lot in order to be helpful advice. That in its self is dangerous for a first time reader. Anyway your stuff is great Andrew, and even though I may seem critical I do appreciate the amount of FREE professional advice you give out.

]]> By: dhecker http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40259 dhecker Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:44:35 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40259 I am a client of Andrew's also, and I agree with the 'stick to it' factor. Andrew helped me to devise a marketing message that would help attract new clients from a market I was trying to reach. Refnining the message wasn't easy, but the really hard part was repeating that message constantly in every format I could think of, while slowly (and painfully) building a pipeline. Now, things are starting to move and I can see it all falling in to place! I am a client of Andrew’s also, and I agree with the ’stick to it’ factor. Andrew helped me to devise a marketing message that would help attract new clients from a market I was trying to reach. Refnining the message wasn’t easy, but the really hard part was repeating that message constantly in every format I could think of, while slowly (and painfully) building a pipeline.

Now, things are starting to move and I can see it all falling in to place!

]]> By: Geeee http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40254 Geeee Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:24:02 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40254 Well, I totally agree with you andrew. Marketing is all about hitting the ears for long time over and over to get results. You won't get those clients by sending couple of emails or mailshots and that's it!! no way ... I guess you have to keep marketing and adapting different ways according to the most effective Marketing Trend, and then push in that way. Congratulations for you and your client ;) Well, I totally agree with you andrew. Marketing is all about hitting the ears for long time over and over to get results. You won’t get those clients by sending couple of emails or mailshots and that’s it!! no way … I guess you have to keep marketing and adapting different ways according to the most effective Marketing Trend, and then push in that way.

Congratulations for you and your client ;)

]]> By: Dr Livingston http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40252 Dr Livingston Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:14:13 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/07/25/the-benefits-of-sticking-to-it/#comment-40252 yer, but for some people, they can dig till they drop and still nothing :lol: if you feel you have tried, and you are tired of the enduring punishment, then try something else... yer, but for some people, they can dig till they drop and still nothing :lol:

if you feel you have tried, and you are tired of the enduring punishment, then try something else…

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