Comments on: Adobe CS2 breaks Intel Apple Macs

By: Matthew Magain

Matthew Magain — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:56:35 +0000

Yawn. Comments closed.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:38:17 +0000

So….you spent $600.00 on a MINI, and expected it to run photoshop in rosetta WELL? And then you complain about how macs are the devil and they don’t work and apple doesn’t say anything about it. And, apparently, their marketing firm is in on this too! Adobe has basically always said “yeah, it runs…..we don’t know how well…so good luck!” Know why? Because they DON’T. Photoshop is not a small program, and optimizing it to run on in a unix environment, on a different architecture, testing it, retesting it, seeing how it works with all those gazillions of file formats, how it works with OSX graphics engine, all the while keeping up with apples new hardware and software updates. Thats for one program in the suite. Since adobe purchased macromedia, they have to do all that for dreamweaver, flash, fireworks(if they keep it). But you know what, CS3 is going to be amazing.

My big beef with this article though is the fact that they purchased a freakin mini to do heavy graphics work. Lets go spend $600.00 on a dell, put photoshop on it, design a 2GB graphics piece on it and see how long it takes. No matter how you slice it, XP is 6 years old. No significant updates since (well, ok so 300million security updates…and service pack 2, which apparently crashed most systems, and caused my friends Alienware to go completely down, and embark on his Odyssey to India, the land of Dells technical support, where he was told that they no longer serviced that model and couldn’t help him). Of course their are exceptions to the rule, but most of the time apple creates a product with excellent quality, and while some of them may be lemons (which the mini in this article may very well be).

I have had a powerbook G4 from 2002 (the first with the superdrive!) that I have used exhaustively through design school, for thousands of hours, and hundreds of projects, taken to europe and crossed 16 countries with, dropped and cracked the case, but miraculously survived. And I finally replaced it with a brand new 17″ MBP, which is very, very aluminum. I am hoping that it lasts me just as long as the other one did.

Yes, the intel thing sucks. Photoshop is mostly bulletproof, but the big problem is illustrator CS2. That thing crashes for me everytime the program thinks at all! Its really really wierd. It sucks too because I do primarily heavy heavy photoshop work and the performance isn’t very good, not much better than my little powerbook. But all the programs that are UB’s work FABULOUSLY. Garageband is so fast. CS3 is going to be amazing. Use a PC or something until then. But not a dell. Chin up mac users. We still get to sit back and watch the PC world switch to an operating system with ‘transparent windows’ and ‘animations.’ Vista is going to turn the mac world on its…..uh…..well I’ll go get the popcorn.

By: Upravdom

Upravdom — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:48:52 +0000

I’m a pro photographer and used both PCs and Macs, and have to deal with both systems on daily basis. I absolutely agree with Lorenz in terms of PC reliability. If there is brain in your head and you’ve got hands you can use wisely - your PC will work flawlessly. And the debate has to be not Apple vs PC, but MacOS vs Windows, since you can get a 500-bucks workstation, pop Linux into it and it will just keep rolling and rolling. Same stuff with MacOS - since it’s Unix-based, it’s more stable, uses hardware resources more wisely and is much better for multitasking. On the other hand - look at new Core 2 Duo PCs - blazing fast. Still not sure if Vista is going to be worth moving to, but hope so (especially with the announcement of the new file system). I love Macs for their OS. I love Macs for their design. I love Macs for the “luxury” of owning one. And that’s probably it. PCs bring more bang for the buck, in terms of performance and compatibility. Everything is IMHO, of course.

By: Lorenz

Lorenz — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:05:48 +0000

Having to switch constantly between Macs and PC’s (depending on which firm I’m in that day) I have to admit that the PC is a much more rounded computer. It is mired by problems, true, but runs extremely more smoother than an Apple.
In fact, I am surprised to no end that the design industry still uses Mac’s. The switch from OS9 to OSX was a real night mare for all the companies I worked for, and every new Mac release creates very serious compatibility issues (not being able to run Photoshop is about as serious as you can get! I don’t care if their website mentions problems, I shouldn’t even have to assume that basic software or updates might give me problems!)
It makes no economic sense to work on a Mac.
At least with a PC, if you choose your manufacturer carefully, and you steer away from those activities that will give you viruses, you’ll never have to worry. Not even during an upgrade…

By: DB

DB — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:33:13 +0000

If you read the note that Adobe published regarding issues with CS2 on MacTel, Adobe clearly states that Version Cue will NOT run on the MacTel platform and to not try it. RTFM.

By: J rand’m helms | Never trust a computer that looks like a handbag.

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By: Micheil

Micheil — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 05:29:09 +0000

Doesn’t the new Mac commercial say how great out of the box and how you don’t need to update anything just get right to work? Seems a bit odd that all their systems have magical update fairies to ensure the latest patches etc.

By: graphreak

graphreak — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:56:26 +0000

This mac vs pc battle will obviously never end. I’ve been a pc user for like 12 years before i started using mac when i started as a graphic designer three years ago. Macs have their strong sides and weak sides, but so does pc’s.
As a daily dual-platform user and administrator i see both the goods and bads of both platforms and must admit that macs are a bit special to work with at times, but try looking at it - i have 15 years of pc experience and 3 years of mac experience so what system feels most logical to me do you think?

I think many users being attracted to macs these days due to the intel platform are a bit too fast to blame apple when things go wrong. Perhaps people should face that mac IS still a different platform and because it’s intel based it doesn’t mean that it works like a pc.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:07:39 +0000

I am running Adobe CS 2 on a new MacBook and it runs flawlessly, even under Rosetta. This Mac is the fastest machine I have ever owned. I also work with a maxed out Dell workstation running XP, and the MacBook kills it.

Wait until CS3 comes out, then you will be VERY happy with your mini.

By: youngblood

youngblood — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:20:33 +0000

“touchwood” i have just bought an intel mac, 4 months ago, hve i stopped drooling? …n..yes.. for one day guess what i was installing… you got it, my old version of cs2.. one day i wanted my pc back… i even told the apple support enginer “could i get a refund… i know why pc’s fall over…” however when i look back, and think one program (yes, a program that i wanted to use the intel mac for) it’s one program… how long have i disliked windows cos nothing works? hell i will live with it as long as the next version works with it!