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	<title>Comments on: IE7 Beta 2 Available to End Users</title>
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		<title>By: keithlaw</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-21520</link>
		<dc:creator>keithlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 08:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have downloaded IEB2 after reading this link. Firefox will remain my preference. I was pleased that my site was only slightly different in rendering probably because it still has tables in use for layout. { I have the latest version on tableless layout under detailed testing }.

I will watch sitepoint to see whether IEB2 amends it's rendering or sitepoint re writes is layout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have downloaded IEB2 after reading this link. Firefox will remain my preference. I was pleased that my site was only slightly different in rendering probably because it still has tables in use for layout. { I have the latest version on tableless layout under detailed testing }.</p>
<p>I will watch sitepoint to see whether IEB2 amends it&#8217;s rendering or sitepoint re writes is layout.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mrsmiley</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-21469</link>
		<dc:creator>mrsmiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 23:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems the beta 2 provided to end users is different to the beta 2 preview given to developers through msdn.  The end user version doesn't like Sitepoint one little bit.  Also doesn't like my computer either, keeps seizing up on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems the beta 2 provided to end users is different to the beta 2 preview given to developers through msdn.  The end user version doesn&#8217;t like Sitepoint one little bit.  Also doesn&#8217;t like my computer either, keeps seizing up on me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TheLunchBox</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20625</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLunchBox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've had the IE7 Beta and I'm quite impressed. I'm just grumpy that my current RSS Reader (Pluck), doesn't work so I'm forced to use the built-in IE7 reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the IE7 Beta and I&#8217;m quite impressed. I&#8217;m just grumpy that my current RSS Reader (Pluck), doesn&#8217;t work so I&#8217;m forced to use the built-in IE7 reader.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Martyd</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20360</link>
		<dc:creator>Martyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, IE7 Beta is out. It has also been installed, run for a month and removed. It appears, like so much Microsoft product to be very 'heavy' My install (Intel P4, 2.4) was much slower than the IE6. I don't care much for the new interface but then like all Microsoft products, one tends to get used to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, IE7 Beta is out. It has also been installed, run for a month and removed. It appears, like so much Microsoft product to be very &#8216;heavy&#8217; My install (Intel P4, 2.4) was much slower than the IE6. I don&#8217;t care much for the new interface but then like all Microsoft products, one tends to get used to them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mjackson42</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20308</link>
		<dc:creator>mjackson42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharma -

I installed IE7B2 this morning, and I can confirm: the blog column goes nuts with IE7. The only way I found this page again was by scrolling down the page and looking for the one-character-width links that it spewed on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharma -</p>
<p>I installed IE7B2 this morning, and I can confirm: the blog column goes nuts with IE7. The only way I found this page again was by scrolling down the page and looking for the one-character-width links that it spewed on there.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Hormone</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20291</link>
		<dc:creator>Hormone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin says...

&lt;blockquote&gt;While I certainly respect your right to use an older, unsupported operating system, as web developers we have the responsibility to support and test on browsers and platforms besides those we personally use. Just as I must test on Safari even though I’m a Windows user, you will have to test on IE7 even though you’re Win2K users. Such is the price of being a professional web designer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I absolutely disagree. Win2K IS still supported depending on if you are at SP4 and how you look at it. Although it has gone from "mainstream" to "extended" support, the key differences are:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"Microsoft will not accept requests for warranty support, design changes, or new features during the Extended support phase." We will of course continue to keep our Windows 2000 SP4 customers secure with security updates through the life of Windows 2000 (through 2010).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is 4 years from now! Whether or not Win2K is personal or not is beside the point, I have customers that still use it so IE7 is useless to them.

I agree that IE7 has to be tested, but it also needs to be supported on, well, supported OS's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin says&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>While I certainly respect your right to use an older, unsupported operating system, as web developers we have the responsibility to support and test on browsers and platforms besides those we personally use. Just as I must test on Safari even though I’m a Windows user, you will have to test on IE7 even though you’re Win2K users. Such is the price of being a professional web designer.</p></blockquote>
<p>I absolutely disagree. Win2K IS still supported depending on if you are at SP4 and how you look at it. Although it has gone from &#8220;mainstream&#8221; to &#8220;extended&#8221; support, the key differences are:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Microsoft will not accept requests for warranty support, design changes, or new features during the Extended support phase.&#8221; We will of course continue to keep our Windows 2000 SP4 customers secure with security updates through the life of Windows 2000 (through 2010).</p></blockquote>
<p>That is 4 years from now! Whether or not Win2K is personal or not is beside the point, I have customers that still use it so IE7 is useless to them.</p>
<p>I agree that IE7 has to be tested, but it also needs to be supported on, well, supported OS&#8217;s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sojan80</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20214</link>
		<dc:creator>Sojan80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray for you Kevin! Kudos!. I personally still have to test Win98 using IE 5.5 among many other browsers nyself. I am currently the only one at work who is using IE7 at present as most of my compatriots won't go for it until SP! is released for it or it is 1 year old.

But Like Kevin said, as a professional web developer I have an obligation to test in the most common environments as dictated by our sites server logs....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for you Kevin! Kudos!. I personally still have to test Win98 using IE 5.5 among many other browsers nyself. I am currently the only one at work who is using IE7 at present as most of my compatriots won&#8217;t go for it until SP! is released for it or it is 1 year old.</p>
<p>But Like Kevin said, as a professional web developer I have an obligation to test in the most common environments as dictated by our sites server logs&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Yank</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20195</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Yank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Octal and rossbruniges,

While I certainly respect your right to use an older, unsupported operating system, as web developers we have the responsibility to support and test on browsers and platforms besides those we personally use. Just as I must test on Safari even though I'm a Windows user, you will have to test on IE7 even though you're Win2K users. Such is the price of being a professional web designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Octal and rossbruniges,</p>
<p>While I certainly respect your right to use an older, unsupported operating system, as web developers we have the responsibility to support and test on browsers and platforms besides those we personally use. Just as I must test on Safari even though I&#8217;m a Windows user, you will have to test on IE7 even though you&#8217;re Win2K users. Such is the price of being a professional web designer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Octal</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20181</link>
		<dc:creator>Octal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;unfortunatly if I still can’i install it on win2000 then I am in a bit of trouble!!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I can't install it on Win2k then it won't be now it will be never</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>unfortunatly if I still can’i install it on win2000 then I am in a bit of trouble!!!</p></blockquote>
<p>If I can&#8217;t install it on Win2k then it won&#8217;t be now it will be never</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/04/26/ie7-beta-2-available-to-end-users/#comment-20172</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sitepoint site is not properly set in IE 7.

1)when I mouse over on Daily blogs column, its disappearing..
2) Observe right side of the page where all the column junked and  stretched the page..

Any One else getting this problem?

Sharma chelluri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sitepoint site is not properly set in IE 7.</p>
<p>1)when I mouse over on Daily blogs column, its disappearing..<br />
2) Observe right side of the page where all the column junked and  stretched the page..</p>
<p>Any One else getting this problem?</p>
<p>Sharma chelluri</p>]]></content:encoded>
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