Comments on: A caveat about off shore work and outsourcing

By: Pitou

Pitou — Wed, 17 May 2006 00:42:05 +0000

Hello Andrew,

I’m new to the site/forum and wish to let you know how impressed I am with it!!

Further to the subject regarding the use of Outsourced Web Development, any company names/information you can provide me would be appreciated. This is a service of great interest to me.

Thanks!

Pitou

By: bigduke

bigduke — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:27:13 +0000

First you hire dumb asses and then regret it =|

Oh and as for bad quality adn response, you gotta be in touch with the right people and dish out atleast twice you’d pay other devs here to get what you really want unless you want things done on a shoe-string budget and take home all the margin money.

And this whole off-shoring / outsourcing debate … for heaven’s sake stop using those retarded service exchange websites if you want something real done. Contact the company directly if you can. Get leads from people on forums. Geez Andrew! do you have to be TOLD that? Is it not a well known fact yet that almost every street here has a cheap and crappy web dev company full of clueless fools who call themselves web developers?

UGH!

By: ABCD

ABCD — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:30:54 +0000

I am sure some people will get hurt hearing this.
No offence but it’s true. In many organisation which deal with US clients, in training it is tought that the IQ of an average 35 years old American is equal to an average 10 years old boy/girl and the weight of 1 American is same as 10 year old boy/girl from [Put any country that you people say a third world country]

And when these people after training go to production floor, find this perticular stuff tought in training amazingly true.

Here people are talking only of bad code, bad designer, bad service.
Just want to remind you that same thing goes to clients also. And the most amazing fact is US clients, who are good, are very good, a pleasure to work with.
But bad clients are not only bad but they are hilarious. You have to pray to GOD when can I get rid of this client.

Pricing is factor but the main thing is greed. For both of us. When you are talking of standerd you look only from your point of view and that creats a problem. Coding standerd is same world wide, I am sure although some body has mentioned that but I think we should discuss not only on coding standerd but work standerd.

Please try to know about outside world you can be a good client. The problem with US people is that they know very few about outside world. And that makes them difficult to work with people form 3rd World country (It’s a kind of naming convention, although very insulting)

Few example how people from so called first world country use compter terms. Forget about coding standers and work standerd.

1. “This page should look good in every search engine” - she is actually refering a browser, and she is a 3500$ client. Its a big amount for a small off-shore company.

2. “I have provided you the flash file. I wonder why any designer in you company don’t know how to edit a flah file. It’s a very small change right !!!”- actually they provided us a SWF file and his designer is on leave. And he own a designing farm.

Just two example … I am not writing more as this is actually not a battale filed where we will fight.

But just a request to so called 1rst world country citizens … stop critisizing others, make yourself straight … the world will follow. At least that should be the motto of 1rst world citizens … to set an example.

Last of all forgive me for my bad english. Its not my mother tongue.

By: BID

BID — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:12:20 +0000

It is not racist in anyway. I am getting totally sick of people using the ‘r’ word when people call a spade a spade. Stop playing the damn race/victim card.

Go and have a look at Indian Web Design sites. Virtually everyone of them is using tables. This gives us a very clear idea of the quality.

The simple facts are they are churning out cookie cutter sites in dreamweaver as fast as they can. This is in no way value for money.

I really like i-dev’s description of what Andrew is doing. Prototyping. As soon as I read that Andrew’s article made a lot of sense. Well done i-dev and Andrew :)

By: Thought Leadership

Thought Leadership — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:18:43 +0000

Outstanding Questions on Outsourcing

I have read hundreds of blogs (way too many to link to) but have chosen some of my favorites…

By: Megan

Megan — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:32:36 +0000

I think the whole thing is about where your focus is combined with what your budget is. I live in a small town where Walmart came in and made it very hard on many small established businesses. True, Walmart created jobs, but they also caused a lot of jobs to disappear when the small businesses went under because they could not compete with Walmart’s prices. Being a small business owner myself, I understand how hard it is to make it. I could take the dog-eat-dog, everyone out for themselves approach, but instead I try to support other local business as much as I can by buying locally made candles from the local candle shop instead of Walmart where they are cheaper, eggs, from the local egg lady instead of Walmart where they are cheaper, get my dog groomed at a local groomer instead of PetSmart, etc. Still there are times when money is especially tight that I have to go with what I can afford (at Walmart) or go without. Making a choice isn’t easy. But I do try to support my LOCAL economy as much as possible. just my 2 cents, megan

By: Edge

Edge — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:38:58 +0000

But I pay a price for this in my own time and sanity:

As you should. You obviously deserve it.

By: raka10

raka10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:12:54 +0000

One more thing in favour of outsourcing - the “living standard” of developing countires make them Cheaper Seller, not the poor quality.

By: raka10

raka10 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:08:43 +0000

There are many companies which have been geting benefits of outsourcing and more are planning to do. I agree with comments “its always better to do your homework” and “You can’t blame any of this on outsourcing but rather poor management and execution.”

By: asp_funda

asp_funda — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:14:32 +0000

to add on it, I’d say that instead of going blind while hiring someone, its always better to do your homework, know about others providing similar services and its a lot better if you can determine why exactly the prices of the one you want to go with, are what they charge(or lower than others).