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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-771447</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;asdasd&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sohail</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-356732</link>
		<dc:creator>sohail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi everyone,

I am new to programming world, started using phpmailer but this doesn&#039;t support ssl with php, so someone advised me to use zendframe work.  I downloaded the latest ZF zip file, it has got loads of libraries including to create pdf documents.  But i am not sure how to install zendframe work on my server and use some of its librarie ie., pdf generation and zendmail.

Sorry for being so dump, everyone on this forum got a better understanding of zendframe work, but for me its just bit over the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi everyone,</p>
<p>I am new to programming world, started using phpmailer but this doesn&#8217;t support ssl with php, so someone advised me to use zendframe work.  I downloaded the latest ZF zip file, it has got loads of libraries including to create pdf documents.  But i am not sure how to install zendframe work on my server and use some of its librarie ie., pdf generation and zendmail.</p>
<p>Sorry for being so dump, everyone on this forum got a better understanding of zendframe work, but for me its just bit over the head.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Zend Framework - namiastka Ruby on Rails?</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-42379</link>
		<dc:creator>Zend Framework - namiastka Ruby on Rails?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Podczas gdy jedni się zachwycają ( link 1 ), a inni ganią ( link 1, link2 ), a jeszcze inni tylko informują ( link 1, link 2 ). Zend framework przynajmniej z opisu i tutoriali, które ukazują się już w Internecie wydaje się być całkiem nienajgorszym. Widzę, że programiści Zend czerpią z Ruby on Rails (bardzo wiele podobieństw, ale także kilka istotnych różnic, na korzyść RoR). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Podczas gdy jedni się zachwycają ( link 1 ), a inni ganią ( link 1, link2 ), a jeszcze inni tylko informują ( link 1, link 2 ). Zend framework przynajmniej z opisu i tutoriali, które ukazują się już w Internecie wydaje się być całkiem nienajgorszym. Widzę, że programiści Zend czerpią z Ruby on Rails (bardzo wiele podobieństw, ale także kilka istotnych różnic, na korzyść RoR). [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rami Kayyali&#8217;s Scatterism Archive: Random Highlights</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-15311</link>
		<dc:creator>Rami Kayyali&#8217;s Scatterism Archive: Random Highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zend&#8217;s framework seems to be the hype in the PHP world these days. My god I&#8217;ve been away for long, probably too long. Have a look at Harry&#8217;s post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zend&#8217;s framework seems to be the hype in the PHP world these days. My god I&#8217;ve been away for long, probably too long. Have a look at Harry&#8217;s post. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rhyll &#62; PHP Blog &#62; Zend Framework Preview Release</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-15296</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhyll &#62; PHP Blog &#62; Zend Framework Preview Release</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harry Fuecks likes what he sees so far (with some exceptions). Davey Shafik has already put the Zend Framework (ZF) to work creating a Flickr Compositor. For more links go check out PHPDeveloper.org&#8217;s community response post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harry Fuecks likes what he sees so far (with some exceptions). Davey Shafik has already put the Zend Framework (ZF) to work creating a Flickr Compositor. For more links go check out PHPDeveloper.org&#8217;s community response post. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jelly &#38; Custard &#187; Zend Framework</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-15292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jelly &#38; Custard &#187; Zend Framework</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harry Fuecks blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harry Fuecks blog [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeewhizz</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/03/06/zend-framework-looking-good/comment-page-1/#comment-15290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeewhizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have the sneaking suspicion that may be because there aren’t any unit tests yet (slap me if I’m wrong), considering one or two of the release hiccups that happened.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unit tests are due for release asap from what I&#039;m reading on the mailing list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have the sneaking suspicion that may be because there aren’t any unit tests yet (slap me if I’m wrong), considering one or two of the release hiccups that happened.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unit tests are due for release asap from what I&#8217;m reading on the mailing list.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: heathd</title>
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		<dc:creator>heathd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depenedency Injection. It&#039;s such a powerful yet simple idea, and it&#039;s the only design I&#039;ve seen which would allow clean integration of libraries from different sources. For a framework it&#039;s a must have! 

I also agree about the Unit Tests. These should be published and easily runnable. 

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depenedency Injection. It&#8217;s such a powerful yet simple idea, and it&#8217;s the only design I&#8217;ve seen which would allow clean integration of libraries from different sources. For a framework it&#8217;s a must have! </p>
<p>I also agree about the Unit Tests. These should be published and easily runnable. </p>
<p>Dave</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mx2k</title>
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		<dc:creator>mx2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been waiting around for the framework forever and a day to come around.  

Its very curious.  I noticed the data adapter forces you to use naming conventions and &lt;em&gt;looks&lt;/em&gt; like it makes use of magic methods __get() &amp; __set() internally. (they might be using other means). 

the data adapter takes the name of your class, makes it plural and then looks up your table in the database. 

so if you name your class &#039;Car&#039;, it looks for table &#039;Cars&#039;.  then it generates the properties for you based off the fields in the table.  

I can see this could save you time, but you would sacrifice some flexibility in coding by using this class.  (i&#039;m sure some people know that i&#039;m sucker for being about to use properties in this manner though)

&lt;code&gt;$person-&gt;firstName = &quot;test&quot;;&lt;/code&gt;

rather than

&lt;code&gt;$person-&gt;setFirstName(&quot;test&quot;);&lt;/code&gt; 

(and maybe one day php will get property accessors so i could do the following)

&lt;code&gt;
  class Person {
     private isDirty=false;
     private firstName;

     public FirstName {
         get { return firstName; }
         set {
           if(firstName != value){
              firstName = value;
              MarkDirty();
         } 
     }
     
     private function MarkDirty(){ isDirty=true;}

     public function Save() {
         if(isDirty){
            // save logic here
         }
     }
  }
&lt;/code&gt;

but i am digging on  Zend_HttpClient_Response and Zend_HttpClient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been waiting around for the framework forever and a day to come around.  </p>
<p>Its very curious.  I noticed the data adapter forces you to use naming conventions and <em>looks</em> like it makes use of magic methods __get() &amp; __set() internally. (they might be using other means). </p>
<p>the data adapter takes the name of your class, makes it plural and then looks up your table in the database. </p>
<p>so if you name your class &#8216;Car&#8217;, it looks for table &#8216;Cars&#8217;.  then it generates the properties for you based off the fields in the table.  </p>
<p>I can see this could save you time, but you would sacrifice some flexibility in coding by using this class.  (i&#8217;m sure some people know that i&#8217;m sucker for being about to use properties in this manner though)</p>
<code>$person-&gt;firstName = "test";</code>
<p>rather than</p>
<code>$person-&gt;setFirstName("test");</code>
<p>(and maybe one day php will get property accessors so i could do the following)</p>
<code>
  class Person {
     private isDirty=false;
     private firstName;

     public FirstName {
         get { return firstName; }
         set {
           if(firstName != value){
              firstName = value;
              MarkDirty();
         } 
     }
     
     private function MarkDirty(){ isDirty=true;}

     public function Save() {
         if(isDirty){
            // save logic here
         }
     }
  }
</code>
<p>but i am digging on  Zend_HttpClient_Response and Zend_HttpClient</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

If coding standards are going to crimp your style so much that you&#039;d rather reinvent the wheel and write your OWN framework, then go. Don&#039;t waste my time griping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If coding standards are going to crimp your style so much that you&#8217;d rather reinvent the wheel and write your OWN framework, then go. Don&#8217;t waste my time griping.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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