Comments on: PHP in Zurich http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:32:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: SitePoint Blogs » (php zurich) webtuesday.ch tonight http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-23340 SitePoint Blogs » (php zurich) webtuesday.ch tonight Tue, 16 May 2006 14:46:27 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-23340 [...] So this event is still going (after renaming to webtuesday.ch—final site updates still on my list). Actually it’s been a surprise success—there’s now a regular core of attendees and some fascinating technical points of view and experience. [...] […] So this event is still going (after renaming to webtuesday.ch—final site updates still on my list). Actually it’s been a surprise success—there’s now a regular core of attendees and some fascinating technical points of view and experience. […]

]]> By: shref http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14320 shref Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:02:37 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14320 thanx, that was very helpful :) i was reading 2 monthes ago about extreme programming and FDD , xp was very good and i think that we can use it. thanx, that was very helpful :)
i was reading 2 monthes ago about extreme programming and FDD , xp was very good and i think that we can use it.

]]> By: HarryF http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14297 HarryF Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:15:23 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14297 <blockquote> 1- how you prepare your speech? </blockquote> There's a ton of stuff on this but I have my own approach which is nothing more than some guidelines; - Know what you're talking about (really) - Dump all your ideas in one place - Try to think in terms of someone who doesn't know the subject - Create structure (throwing out stuff and clarifying) - this is a loop which you do as much as you have time for - Talk to your audience (don't be too reliant on slides - don't repeat the text of your slides) Pretty much all of this falls out of the first point - knowing what you're talking about. <blockquote> 2- if you decided to develope an open source application with the groupe , what will be your methdology to organize that? </blockquote> You mean ad-hoc group, formed from the user group? Can't really comment here as I haven't done this myself but what I imagine is: - you need to be willing to give up your time and be a (benevolent) dictator. - you need online developers tools on the kind they have at sourceforge.net - you probably want to explore agile methodologies (e.g. extreme programming)

1- how you prepare your speech?

There’s a ton of stuff on this but I have my own approach which is nothing more than some guidelines;

- Know what you’re talking about (really)
- Dump all your ideas in one place
- Try to think in terms of someone who doesn’t know the subject
- Create structure (throwing out stuff and clarifying) - this is a loop which you do as much as you have time for
- Talk to your audience (don’t be too reliant on slides - don’t repeat the text of your slides)

Pretty much all of this falls out of the first point - knowing what you’re talking about.

2- if you decided to develope an open source application with the groupe , what will be your methdology to organize that?

You mean ad-hoc group, formed from the user group? Can’t really comment here as I haven’t done this myself but what I imagine is:

- you need to be willing to give up your time and be a (benevolent) dictator.
- you need online developers tools on the kind they have at sourceforge.net
- you probably want to explore agile methodologies (e.g. extreme programming)

]]> By: paulyG http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14157 paulyG Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:47:03 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14157 Alexandria sounds nice, Zurich too - I cannot be a regular attendee at either, but like many php'ers if I can fine-tune a trip - or (even better) formulate a holiday break with my wife around a php meetup then I might try it.. they might speak a bit of French in Zurich.. Alexandria sounds nice, Zurich too - I cannot be a regular attendee at either, but like many php’ers if I can fine-tune a trip - or (even better) formulate a holiday break with my wife around a php meetup then I might try it.. they might speak a bit of French in Zurich..

]]> By: shref http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14143 shref Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:12:43 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14143 good work, we have a php user group here in my city (<strong>Alexandria</strong>) and there is more groups around the country (<strong>Egypt</strong>), the problem was about the place of the meetings and the way to organize a project so every one can share and learn with others. so i have some questions and if you can give me links can help or any thing else i will be very thankful :) 1- how you prepare your speech? 2- if you decided to develope an open source application with the groupe , what will be your methdology to organize that? thank you harry :) good work,
we have a php user group here in my city (Alexandria) and there is more groups around the country (Egypt), the problem was about the place of the meetings and the way to organize a project so every one can share and learn with others.
so i have some questions and if you can give me links can help or any thing else i will be very thankful :)
1- how you prepare your speech?
2- if you decided to develope an open source application with the groupe , what will be your methdology to organize that?

thank you harry :)

]]> By: Colin F http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14135 Colin F Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:10:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14135 Let's see if I can make it... :) Let’s see if I can make it… :)

]]> By: JesseLukeWalker http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14112 JesseLukeWalker Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:14:38 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14112 This gives me an incentive to have a holiday in Zurich! Congratulations on starting something up like this, and long may it continue :) //I'm the guy who had a chat about Google & ISPs at the Blogathon// This gives me an incentive to have a holiday in Zurich!

Congratulations on starting something up like this, and long may it continue :)

//I’m the guy who had a chat about Google & ISPs at the Blogathon//

]]> By: HarryF http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14094 HarryF Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14094 <blockquote> Generally speaking what language is spoken at these events in Switzerland then? </blockquote> Good question- well mainly Swiss German. I'll be annoying people by using a fair ammount of English (like the wiki) but no one has a problem with that here.

Generally speaking what language is spoken at these events in Switzerland then?

Good question- well mainly Swiss German. I’ll be annoying people by using a fair ammount of English (like the wiki) but no one has a problem with that here.

]]> By: paulyG http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14091 paulyG Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:06:19 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14091 Generally speaking what language is spoken at these events in Switzerland then? Generally speaking what language is spoken at these events in Switzerland then?

]]> By: HarryF http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/02/17/php-in-zurich/#comment-14081 HarryF Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:07:04 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1422#comment-14081 <blockquote> a) bitching about employers, and b) getting drunk </blockquote> <code>c) goto a)</code> ;) <blockquote> I’m curious—what do you guys do at those meetings? </blockquote> Actually the main Swiss PHP-UG is good at doing useful presentations, from my experiences. Think the plan with <a href="http://zh.phpug.ch" rel="nofollow">PHP Zurich</a> is to try to do something useful every time <a href="http://zh.phpug.ch/locations/bitflux" rel="nofollow">here</a> before we head to <a href="http://zh.phpug.ch/locations/rossis" rel="nofollow">here</a>. "Useful" depends much on who turns up. If we get many PHP beginners, it may have to stay low end. That said I'd be interested in heading the kind of direction <a href="http://www.phplondon.org/wiki/MarcusBaker" rel="nofollow">Marcus</a> does, at PHP London, with agile development etc. We'll see. Also think we're going to have an interesting mix of people. <a href="http://zh.phpug.ch/members/raksoft" rel="nofollow">Rolf</a>, for example, shows up <a href="http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246393.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> as one of the authors. If we can keep that mix interesting, perhaps we start attracting headhunters in the way PHP London does - turn up and get a job offer ;)

a) bitching about employers, and b) getting drunk

c) goto a) ;)

I’m curious—what do you guys do at those meetings?

Actually the main Swiss PHP-UG is good at doing useful presentations, from my experiences.

Think the plan with PHP Zurich is to try to do something useful every time here before we head to here. “Useful” depends much on who turns up. If we get many PHP beginners, it may have to stay low end.

That said I’d be interested in heading the kind of direction Marcus does, at PHP London, with agile development etc. We’ll see.

Also think we’re going to have an interesting mix of people. Rolf, for example, shows up here as one of the authors. If we can keep that mix interesting, perhaps we start attracting headhunters in the way PHP London does - turn up and get a job offer ;)

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