Comments on: Apple “photocasting” Mac only, uses invalid RSS http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:09:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Carlos http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-218816 Carlos Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:39:26 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-218816 More a question than a statement. One of the iPhoto photocasting feeds I subscribe to is <a href="http://www.maharaj.org/rdf.xml" rel="nofollow"> http://www.maharaj.org/rdf.xml</a> It appears (to me, anyway) to be: (1) iPhoto compatible and iPhoto RSS sound (2) Yahoo media RSS compatible (3) RSS 2.0 valid (4) .mac independent Am I right about that? If so, should/could I use it as a template for my own photocast, or is there something here that I'm completely missing? Tx More a question than a statement.

One of the iPhoto photocasting feeds I subscribe to is

http://www.maharaj.org/rdf.xml

It appears (to me, anyway) to be:

(1) iPhoto compatible and iPhoto RSS sound
(2) Yahoo media RSS compatible
(3) RSS 2.0 valid
(4) .mac independent

Am I right about that? If so, should/could I use it as a template for my own photocast, or is there something here that I’m completely missing?

Tx

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By: clintonG http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-13827 clintonG Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:59:06 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-13827 Apple has also published invalid examples of RSS 2.0 in the iTunes specification [1]. See "An Example Feed" and note there is no element in the channel. I'm discussing this and other "missing information" in their syndication-dev@lists.apple.com list. I encourage others to show up in that list and support the concerns I have discussed as well as any you may have yourself. [1] http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/techspecs.html Apple has also published invalid examples of RSS 2.0 in the iTunes specification [1]. See “An Example Feed” and note there is no element in the channel. I’m discussing this and other “missing information” in their syndication-dev@lists.apple.com list.

I encourage others to show up in that list and support the concerns I have discussed as well as any you may have yourself.

[1] http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/techspecs.html

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By: AlexW http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-13051 AlexW Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:38:10 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-13051 Zeldman's take on the issue -- <a href="http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0106b.shtml" rel="nofollow">iPhoto , iTunes, iForgotToTest</a> <blockquote>I think it more likely that Apple’s implementation is simply, grandly inept. It may be inept through knuckle-dragging unawareness of best practices in web design, as is the case with iWeb’s HTML markup. Or it may be inept because it was rushed to market.</blockquote> Zeldman’s take on the issue — iPhoto , iTunes, iForgotToTest

I think it more likely that Apple’s implementation is simply, grandly inept.

It may be inept through knuckle-dragging unawareness of best practices in web design, as is the case with iWeb’s HTML markup.

Or it may be inept because it was rushed to market.

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By: » links for 2006-01-20  InsideMicrosoft - part of the Blog News Channel http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12929 » links for 2006-01-20  InsideMicrosoft - part of the Blog News Channel Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:36 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12929 [...] SitePoint Blogs » Apple “photocasting” Mac only, uses invalid RSS Quote: “If I had my doubts before, I stand corrected. Apple is the new Microsoft.” Wow. (tags: apple mac iphoto rss) [...] [...] SitePoint Blogs » Apple “photocasting” Mac only, uses invalid RSS Quote: “If I had my doubts before, I stand corrected. Apple is the new Microsoft.” Wow. (tags: apple mac iphoto rss) [...]

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By: Larry http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12926 Larry Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:30:24 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12926 Even with a compatible feed reader, the actual feed is not located at photocast.mac.com/... but at the URL that's specified in the error message. Apple is looking at the User-Agent, and if it's supported (eg, it contains "NetNewsWire/") it returns a 302 redirect to the actual feed. Even with a compatible feed reader, the actual feed is not located at photocast.mac.com/… but at the URL that’s specified in the error message. Apple is looking at the User-Agent, and if it’s supported (eg, it contains “NetNewsWire/”) it returns a 302 redirect to the actual feed.

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By: brainpipe » Apple defines Really Sucky Syndication standard http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12925 brainpipe » Apple defines Really Sucky Syndication standard Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:23:06 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12925 [...] Steve Jobs is a salesman. He’s possibly the best salesman on the planet, but that doesn’t make him a god, or even someone worth your attention. It means his purpose in life is to clean your wallet. And guess what? He’s done a respectable job thus far. Not exactly in Bill Gates territory (although Kevin Yank says Apple is the new Microsoft, but it beats the hell out of working for a living. It’s a lot like half the U.S. population bitching about the sinking ship they’re on: Bitch away, Mary, but you created this mess. [...] [...] Steve Jobs is a salesman. He’s possibly the best salesman on the planet, but that doesn’t make him a god, or even someone worth your attention. It means his purpose in life is to clean your wallet. And guess what? He’s done a respectable job thus far. Not exactly in Bill Gates territory (although Kevin Yank says Apple is the new Microsoft, but it beats the hell out of working for a living. It’s a lot like half the U.S. population bitching about the sinking ship they’re on: Bitch away, Mary, but you created this mess. [...]

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By: anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12896 anonymous Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:40:30 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12896 "the new Microsoft" - Kevin, what ever you are smoking, either cut back on it or blog about it so the rest of us can join in. “the new Microsoft” – Kevin, what ever you are smoking, either cut back on it or blog about it so the rest of us can join in.

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By: Me http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12891 Me Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:48:22 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12891 Of course, maybe this is an intelligently written post which is designed just to get attention. And draw attention to the advertising. Bashing Apple Sells newspapers Of course, maybe this is an intelligently written post which is designed just to get attention. And draw attention to the advertising.

Bashing Apple Sells newspapers

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By: Kevin Yank http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12888 Kevin Yank Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:22:05 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12888 charmedlover: <blockquote>For such a small error you’re making an alwful big deal about it. I haven't seen any lashing for the HTML generated by FrontPage?</blockquote> That's because there's still hope for Apple. :) charmedlover:

For such a small error you’re making an alwful big deal about it. I haven’t seen any lashing for the HTML generated by FrontPage?

That’s because there’s still hope for Apple. :)

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By: charmedlover http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-12887 charmedlover Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:17:31 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/01/17/apple-photocasting-mac-only-uses-invalid-rss/#comment-12887 <blockquote>On the one hand, I’d say HTML validation errors are much less severe than RSS validations errors, as the former is not commonly processed as XML while the latter is.</blockquote> My only point here is that you aren't pefect either. I think the few errors in Apple's generated feed are not drastic enough to lash out at them to this point. While I agree it should be brought to Apple's attention you are taking it a level too far, elevating it to an unacceptable level. I find you are simply looking for a small flaw in Apple's system to criticize them just for the sake of criticizing them. As mentioned earlier, Apple is good about fixing flaws such as this and getting them cleaned up. That is why Safari had the first official release of a browser that passed Acid2. For such a small error you're making an alwful big deal about it. I haven't seen any lashing for the HTML generated by FrontPage?

On the one hand, I’d say HTML validation errors are much less severe than RSS validations errors, as the former is not commonly processed as XML while the latter is.

My only point here is that you aren’t pefect either. I think the few errors in Apple’s generated feed are not drastic enough to lash out at them to this point. While I agree it should be brought to Apple’s attention you are taking it a level too far, elevating it to an unacceptable level.

I find you are simply looking for a small flaw in Apple’s system to criticize them just for the sake of criticizing them.

As mentioned earlier, Apple is good about fixing flaws such as this and getting them cleaned up. That is why Safari had the first official release of a browser that passed Acid2.

For such a small error you’re making an alwful big deal about it. I haven’t seen any lashing for the HTML generated by FrontPage?

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