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		<title>By: sophia10</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-814090</link>
		<dc:creator>sophia10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually i think differently for e lance-
"The bigger problem on Elance, in my experience, is dummy projects. Some buyers post projects simply to get an idea of the cost or to try to find free work."

Actually our organization wanted to hire virtual employees for web designing and SEO. And we are looking for whole virtual team. Because now it's become very expensive for our organization to recruit employees :(  And we need reliable and quality virtual employees.

We were prepared to post our requisite on freelancers or e lance sites. But we have observed the unacceptable thing. “Dummy projects”. Due to which we people unable to understand that why our bids not get awarded. Ultimately the outcome is wastage of time as well as money in the entire biding process. So, what next?

Then our team decided to directly contact companies who are providing virtual employee services. But the question is "RELIABILITY and Hiring charges".

We have got replies from some forums and communities. So, now we have one option company &lt;a href="http://www.marketraise.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.marketraise.com&lt;/a&gt;. It’s nice.

But we want best service provider with better package.
So, the major facts which we believe with freelancing/e lance/other bidding sites are
Disadvantage- Lack of reliability
Advantage- time and money saver

Thanks in advance
Sophia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually i think differently for e lance-<br />
&#8220;The bigger problem on Elance, in my experience, is dummy projects. Some buyers post projects simply to get an idea of the cost or to try to find free work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually our organization wanted to hire virtual employees for web designing and SEO. And we are looking for whole virtual team. Because now it&#8217;s become very expensive for our organization to recruit employees :(  And we need reliable and quality virtual employees.</p>
<p>We were prepared to post our requisite on freelancers or e lance sites. But we have observed the unacceptable thing. “Dummy projects”. Due to which we people unable to understand that why our bids not get awarded. Ultimately the outcome is wastage of time as well as money in the entire biding process. So, what next?</p>
<p>Then our team decided to directly contact companies who are providing virtual employee services. But the question is &#8220;RELIABILITY and Hiring charges&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have got replies from some forums and communities. So, now we have one option company <a href="http://www.marketraise.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketraise.com</a>. It’s nice.</p>
<p>But we want best service provider with better package.<br />
So, the major facts which we believe with freelancing/e lance/other bidding sites are<br />
Disadvantage- Lack of reliability<br />
Advantage- time and money saver</p>
<p>Thanks in advance<br />
Sophia</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laurel</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-302491</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across a similar article on ResourcePad exchange here:

http://www.resourcepad.com/blog/2007/07/12/what-are-the-qualities-of-a-good-service-provider-part-1/#comment-16

You guys may wanna look at it and share your experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across a similar article on ResourcePad exchange here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.resourcepad.com/blog/2007/07/12/what-are-the-qualities-of-a-good-service-provider-part-1/#comment-16" rel="nofollow">http://www.resourcepad.com/blog/2007/07/12/what-are-the-qualities-of-a-good-service-provider-part-1/#comment-16</a></p>
<p>You guys may wanna look at it and share your experiences.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-163471</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minute ago I was reading an RFP on elance and the guys was asking to built a site for him which is ebay + myspace + citysearch with a budget of 25k, he did not undrstand oen thing, only the yearly electricity bill for the servers of that projetc will exceed hi budjet, so whats that exciting about elaince?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minute ago I was reading an RFP on elance and the guys was asking to built a site for him which is ebay + myspace + citysearch with a budget of 25k, he did not undrstand oen thing, only the yearly electricity bill for the servers of that projetc will exceed hi budjet, so whats that exciting about elaince?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Inversarium</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-30075</link>
		<dc:creator>Inversarium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And oh yeh. Almost every audio CD I've ever purchased has been of a foreign artist and rarely Indian (except for psytrance!). Where does "how unfortunate" come in from here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And oh yeh. Almost every audio CD I&#8217;ve ever purchased has been of a foreign artist and rarely Indian (except for psytrance!). Where does &#8220;how unfortunate&#8221; come in from here?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Inversarium</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-30074</link>
		<dc:creator>Inversarium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Someone who Cares!?

What's the big deal about outsourcing work?

The net's a global village and it doesn't matter who you get your work done from as long as it's done good. 

And personally, I think more on terms of being a citizen of the world than of 'just' my own country. I love my country and people just 'as much' as I much as I love 'every' other country and its people.    So if I have to outsource work ever, I'd do it just as happily as I'd get it done here in India.

And btw, if  I wasn't a designer and needed design work done according to my frame of aesthetics, I'd definitely be getting it outsourced! I wouldn't be thinking, "Damn! I'm sending business outside India. How unfortunate!" 

Get the bigger picture and be more open system. Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Someone who Cares!?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the big deal about outsourcing work?</p>
<p>The net&#8217;s a global village and it doesn&#8217;t matter who you get your work done from as long as it&#8217;s done good. </p>
<p>And personally, I think more on terms of being a citizen of the world than of &#8216;just&#8217; my own country. I love my country and people just &#8216;as much&#8217; as I much as I love &#8216;every&#8217; other country and its people.    So if I have to outsource work ever, I&#8217;d do it just as happily as I&#8217;d get it done here in India.</p>
<p>And btw, if  I wasn&#8217;t a designer and needed design work done according to my frame of aesthetics, I&#8217;d definitely be getting it outsourced! I wouldn&#8217;t be thinking, &#8220;Damn! I&#8217;m sending business outside India. How unfortunate!&#8221; </p>
<p>Get the bigger picture and be more open system. Just my two cents.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: aneitlich</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-11822</link>
		<dc:creator>aneitlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the point of these blogs is not supposed to get personal about me and my buying habits (as the issues discussed are supposed to be bigger picture), this blog entry seems to have gotten personal in a non-factual way. I hate when that happens.

I checked my Quickbooks for this year about where I purchase services. 75% of the services I've purchased from designers and developers are from people who reside in the good ol' USA. 25% are from overseas resources. So please stop assuming that I see it as a virtue to look overseas.

I look for best source in terms of quality and price. In this case, I was fortunate to find excellent quality and excellent pricing.

But do me a favor if you don't mind...let's focus on the big picture strategic issues. Don't try to extrapolate or project who I am, what I am about or my philosophy. If you have a hunch about what I believe, email me privately and ask. If you have a "beef" about who I am and what I represent, email me privately and rant all you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the point of these blogs is not supposed to get personal about me and my buying habits (as the issues discussed are supposed to be bigger picture), this blog entry seems to have gotten personal in a non-factual way. I hate when that happens.</p>
<p>I checked my Quickbooks for this year about where I purchase services. 75% of the services I&#8217;ve purchased from designers and developers are from people who reside in the good ol&#8217; USA. 25% are from overseas resources. So please stop assuming that I see it as a virtue to look overseas.</p>
<p>I look for best source in terms of quality and price. In this case, I was fortunate to find excellent quality and excellent pricing.</p>
<p>But do me a favor if you don&#8217;t mind&#8230;let&#8217;s focus on the big picture strategic issues. Don&#8217;t try to extrapolate or project who I am, what I am about or my philosophy. If you have a hunch about what I believe, email me privately and ask. If you have a &#8220;beef&#8221; about who I am and what I represent, email me privately and rant all you want.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: friendsterindia</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-11782</link>
		<dc:creator>friendsterindia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US based software professionals can subcontract work to indian firms.They can handle the marketing part.Or they can come to india and start their developement centre here at low rates. Visiting india is not expensive.Try visiting bangalore,hyderabad,delhi, chennai, kolkata etc. Hire a consultant. You can easily get Office at technology park. Put a ad in naukri.com and you are ready to start operations in India.You can also contact me at techtiger@goowy.com . My friend's firm is building largest tech park in Kolkata.You can get really great value from me related to property and hiring best talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US based software professionals can subcontract work to indian firms.They can handle the marketing part.Or they can come to india and start their developement centre here at low rates. Visiting india is not expensive.Try visiting bangalore,hyderabad,delhi, chennai, kolkata etc. Hire a consultant. You can easily get Office at technology park. Put a ad in naukri.com and you are ready to start operations in India.You can also contact me at <a href="mailto:techtiger@goowy.com">techtiger@goowy.com</a> . My friend&#8217;s firm is building largest tech park in Kolkata.You can get really great value from me related to property and hiring best talent.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Javier Cabrera</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>Javier Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your beef… Is it from the US or Argentina (where a huge amount of US consumed beef comes from)?
Yeah! our beef are just the best in the world ;) but here they are expensive because it is best to sell outside. I'm complaining? well... no.

The world is changing fellows, this discussion is the living proof of it. You will always find people who is afraid of change; so... don't take it personally. Just play the game; those people will end up playing too.

Cheers
Javier Cabrera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your beef… Is it from the US or Argentina (where a huge amount of US consumed beef comes from)?<br />
Yeah! our beef are just the best in the world ;) but here they are expensive because it is best to sell outside. I&#8217;m complaining? well&#8230; no.</p>
<p>The world is changing fellows, this discussion is the living proof of it. You will always find people who is afraid of change; so&#8230; don&#8217;t take it personally. Just play the game; those people will end up playing too.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Javier Cabrera</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lmao

I am curious... 
What percentage of the the things you wear are made in the US? One percent? Two percent?
Your beef... Is it from the US or Argentina (where a huge amount of US consumed beef comes from)? How about your other food ... Is it mostly from the US? 
You automobile...  Is it American made, by Americans for an American company, using American parts? 
Your home entertainment items... Is any part of your home theater American made by an American company?  

Take a look around Walmart, Ikea, Home Depot, Lowes Home Improvement, etc.  These companies are rich off of imported products.  Where do you shop?  Exactly, what percentage of your income goes to buy products made in America, by an American owned company?

So, Andrew uses an overseas firm to build a great product for less than it would have cost to build the same product domestically.  His company is stronger for the savings, and America is stronger when our companies are stronger.

Crying when a foreign company offers more value and better service for less money is a complete waste of time.  In general, people will always buy what they believe is the deal for their money. 

The issue is not what Andrew paid.  The issue is why are you and I not on eLance, offering more value at a competitive price.   So, quit bitching and learn to compete in the international IT market.  

-Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lmao</p>
<p>I am curious&#8230;<br />
What percentage of the the things you wear are made in the US? One percent? Two percent?<br />
Your beef&#8230; Is it from the US or Argentina (where a huge amount of US consumed beef comes from)? How about your other food &#8230; Is it mostly from the US?<br />
You automobile&#8230;  Is it American made, by Americans for an American company, using American parts?<br />
Your home entertainment items&#8230; Is any part of your home theater American made by an American company?  </p>
<p>Take a look around Walmart, Ikea, Home Depot, Lowes Home Improvement, etc.  These companies are rich off of imported products.  Where do you shop?  Exactly, what percentage of your income goes to buy products made in America, by an American owned company?</p>
<p>So, Andrew uses an overseas firm to build a great product for less than it would have cost to build the same product domestically.  His company is stronger for the savings, and America is stronger when our companies are stronger.</p>
<p>Crying when a foreign company offers more value and better service for less money is a complete waste of time.  In general, people will always buy what they believe is the deal for their money. </p>
<p>The issue is not what Andrew paid.  The issue is why are you and I not on eLance, offering more value at a competitive price.   So, quit bitching and learn to compete in the international IT market.  </p>
<p>-Brian</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: EOBeav</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/09/lessons-from-an-elance-pro/#comment-11751</link>
		<dc:creator>EOBeav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew is an American, but didn't SitePoint originally begin by an Australian designer?  Many of the posts in the forums and in the blogs are from international sources, so it shouldn't really offend anybody in here if a contributor is hiring some of his labor outside his native country.  

I'm an American, and I can see the value of buying American first from my own ethnocentric perspective, but I just can't see that happening on a site like SitePoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew is an American, but didn&#8217;t SitePoint originally begin by an Australian designer?  Many of the posts in the forums and in the blogs are from international sources, so it shouldn&#8217;t really offend anybody in here if a contributor is hiring some of his labor outside his native country.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an American, and I can see the value of buying American first from my own ethnocentric perspective, but I just can&#8217;t see that happening on a site like SitePoint.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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