Comments on: How to tell when PHP 5 is safe to use… http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:24:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: manthrax http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-784543 manthrax Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:35:24 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-784543 It has been 2 years since this was commented on, I'm gonna give it a shot. It has been 2 years since this was commented on, I’m gonna give it a shot.

]]> By: bigduke http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-12587 bigduke Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:22:26 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-12587 When you say John you mean John Coggeshall right ? When you say John you mean John Coggeshall right ?

]]> By: Etnu http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11801 Etnu Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:19:31 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11801 Converting code to run on PHP5 is NOT difficult. In most cases, you simply need to remove some ampersands and you're good to go (if you even need to do that). The HARD part about PHP5 is when you're trying to write php-land code that needs to run on both PHP4 and PHP5. Converting code to run on PHP5 is NOT difficult. In most cases, you simply need to remove some ampersands and you’re good to go (if you even need to do that). The HARD part about PHP5 is when you’re trying to write php-land code that needs to run on both PHP4 and PHP5.

]]> By: SitePoint Blogs » Shared Hosts and PHP5 Upgrades http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11733 SitePoint Blogs » Shared Hosts and PHP5 Upgrades Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:51:25 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11733 [...] Ivo Jansch made a comment in relation to this blog which got me thinking; We have the same problem. The backwardscompatibility issues are small, and we could easily fix our own apps. But we also do hosting for several hundreds of websites not created by us. Getting all our customers to fix their sites (and providing them with a means to test) will be hellish. [...] […] Ivo Jansch made a comment in relation to this blog which got me thinking; We have the same problem. The backwardscompatibility issues are small, and we could easily fix our own apps. But we also do hosting for several hundreds of websites not created by us. Getting all our customers to fix their sites (and providing them with a means to test) will be hellish. […]

]]> By: Sikosis http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11691 Sikosis Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:40:14 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11691 Errr ... "We use code generators a lot" ... wouldnt that be his problem straight away ? ;) Errr … “We use code generators a lot” … wouldnt that be his problem straight away ? ;)

]]> By: LinhGB http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11690 LinhGB Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:38:40 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11690 <blockquote>LinhGB, I’ve been running plesk on php5 for months. What’s your problem there? — Eric </blockquote> Hi Eric, I should've clarified that it is the applications that come with Plesk (like Application Vault) that is the issue, not Plesk itself. I really don't have the time and resource to upgrade every client's applications (in many cases there's no PHP5 version of those apps) and I don't quite have the $$$ for another server just to run PHP5, not to mention that I can't think of any valid reason to convince clients that this upgrade will benefit them. Therefore, PHP5 development is restricted on my home server for my self-learning purposes (until I get big enough clients/projects to get a new server :p).

LinhGB,

I’ve been running plesk on php5 for months. What’s your problem there?

— Eric

Hi Eric, I should’ve clarified that it is the applications that come with Plesk (like Application Vault) that is the issue, not Plesk itself. I really don’t have the time and resource to upgrade every client’s applications (in many cases there’s no PHP5 version of those apps) and I don’t quite have the $$$ for another server just to run PHP5, not to mention that I can’t think of any valid reason to convince clients that this upgrade will benefit them.

Therefore, PHP5 development is restricted on my home server for my self-learning purposes (until I get big enough clients/projects to get a new server :p).

]]> By: SlicerX http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11689 SlicerX Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:12:45 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11689 Jared, lets keep comments about others off of sitepoint. This is NOT slashdot, we don't need to start abusing others here. Of course, say what you want about other peoples comments, but don't hack on the individual. Sorry to make a point of this, but it always starts small. I for one love this site, it has helped me so much in my learning and career and I would love to keep it that way. Jared, lets keep comments about others off of sitepoint. This is NOT slashdot, we don’t need to start abusing others here. Of course, say what you want about other peoples comments, but don’t hack on the individual. Sorry to make a point of this, but it always starts small. I for one love this site, it has helped me so much in my learning and career and I would love to keep it that way.

]]> By: ajking http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11686 ajking Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:05:16 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11686 Note to Jared: I have read and enjoyed John's blog for at least the past two and a half years. Mistakes? A very few and he has always promptly acknowledged them and corrected them. But everyone makes mistakes (just like you, Jared) -- it doesn't make them a moron. And that kind of epithet could not be farther from the truth when it comes to John Lim. His adodb database abstraction package is tremendous; his skills in profiling code (one of his favorite things to do, judging from my scanning of his blog over the years) are terrific; his observations of the workings of PHP are astute and to the point. And he has a big enough sense of humour that he usually finds something to poke fun at even in the negative comments of others. Note to Jared: I have read and enjoyed John’s blog for at least the past two and a half years. Mistakes? A very few and he has always promptly acknowledged them and corrected them. But everyone makes mistakes (just like you, Jared) — it doesn’t make them a moron. And that kind of epithet could not be farther from the truth when it comes to John Lim. His adodb database abstraction package is tremendous; his skills in profiling code (one of his favorite things to do, judging from my scanning of his blog over the years) are terrific; his observations of the workings of PHP are astute and to the point. And he has a big enough sense of humour that he usually finds something to poke fun at even in the negative comments of others.

]]> By: Dr Livingston http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11675 Dr Livingston Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:12:11 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11675 i would have to disagree with that observation myself, and cannot understand as to where Jared is coming from. considering that there are many blogs out there that offer bad advice and show a complete - and utter - lack of understanding, this blog isn't all that bad, at the end of the day. as to BC there wouldn't be an issue if everyone moved to version 5 - as i see it, there isn't an excuse to remain with version 4 anymore anyways. if you are stuck using version 4 then the problem is that you need to convince those in a higher authority that it'd make business sense to make the move. when push comes to shove, you need to be more accertive i think - otherwise in my view, you have no reason to winge about BC issues. do you? :D i would have to disagree with that observation myself, and cannot understand as to where Jared is coming from.

considering that there are many blogs out there that offer bad advice and show a complete - and utter - lack of understanding, this blog isn’t all that bad, at the end of the day.

as to BC there wouldn’t be an issue if everyone moved to version 5 - as i see it, there isn’t an excuse to remain with version 4 anymore anyways. if you are stuck using version 4 then the problem is that you need to convince those in a higher authority that it’d make business sense to make the move.

when push comes to shove, you need to be more accertive i think - otherwise in my view, you have no reason to winge about BC issues.

do you? :D

]]> By: HarryF http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/12/07/how-to-tell-when-php-5-is-safe-to-use/#comment-11674 HarryF Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:53:52 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/?p=1339#comment-11674 <blockquote> John is regarded by many, as a bit of a moron. Half the stuff he says on his blog is incorrect. I am not refering to this post specifically, but rather things he has said in the past. </blockquote> Think you'll have to qualify that. Which "many" and which posts?

John is regarded by many, as a bit of a moron. Half the stuff he says on his blog is incorrect. I am not refering to this post specifically, but rather things he has said in the past.

Think you’ll have to qualify that. Which “many” and which posts?

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