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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-47814</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very disappointed to read that the "overflow" bug would not be fixed.  I work on DHTML menus, and the present state of the bug makes a big impact.  At least in IE6, "overflow" seems better.  To me, IE7 is a huge step backward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very disappointed to read that the &#8220;overflow&#8221; bug would not be fixed.  I work on DHTML menus, and the present state of the bug makes a big impact.  At least in IE6, &#8220;overflow&#8221; seems better.  To me, IE7 is a huge step backward.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Erwin Heiser</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-12718</link>
		<dc:creator>Erwin Heiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What continues to baffle me is that a company with the monetary resources of Microsoft can't fix a few bugs in their browser; or for that matter start from scratch :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What continues to baffle me is that a company with the monetary resources of Microsoft can&#8217;t fix a few bugs in their browser; or for that matter start from scratch :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: 굿오호</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-12554</link>
		<dc:creator>굿오호</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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원하시는 모든자료를 검색하나로 다운받으실수 있습니다.<br />
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<p>무단광고게시글을 올려 죄송합니다. 삭제번호는 12345 입니다.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: torresburriel.com&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 7 no soportar la propiedad content</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-11685</link>
		<dc:creator>torresburriel.com&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Internet Explorer 7 no soportar la propiedad content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Que por ms ilusiones que me haba hecho, definitivamente parece ser que la futura versin de Internet Explorer no soportar una de las propiedades ms interesantes de la especificacin CSS2, como es la propiedad content. Lo leo en What wont be fixed in IE7, que bebe de muy buena fuente: WaSP Microsoft Task Force Update: Upcoming Products, XAML, Acid2, SXSW, and IE7 Revealed.  However, some things simply wont be there. Generated content? Wont make it Wilson tells us. Theres an overflow problem that probably wont be fixed, and object for images will most likely not be repaired in IE7.   css, IE7, microsoft   Guardar este post en del.icio.us [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Que por ms ilusiones que me haba hecho, definitivamente parece ser que la futura versin de Internet Explorer no soportar una de las propiedades ms interesantes de la especificacin CSS2, como es la propiedad content. Lo leo en What wont be fixed in IE7, que bebe de muy buena fuente: WaSP Microsoft Task Force Update: Upcoming Products, XAML, Acid2, SXSW, and IE7 Revealed.  However, some things simply wont be there. Generated content? Wont make it Wilson tells us. Theres an overflow problem that probably wont be fixed, and object for images will most likely not be repaired in IE7.   css, IE7, microsoft   Guardar este post en del.icio.us [&#8230;]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Luis Morais</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10699</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Morais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So we have to remember that developer to developer we have to give a certain amount of respect to our peers. I’m not saying we have to agree with them, or not express our very real frustration, but I do think a little respect and encouragement can go a long way, especially now that Microsoft’s people are listening to the standards community more than ever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well said Molly.

Guys, I am not sure how many of you work on companies with layers and layers of management, Business operations and Marketing divisions competing wioth each other but putting it plainly: making a website compliant is not a matter of just "ok, tell the techie boys downstairs that a new era is dawning and Web Standards is vital to our business operations!"

Developers in most cases have no word or power to change monolitic business models. 

It is no different in Microsoft either, the moment came Microsoft had to step up security in IE - and don't forget that was the primary business drive that triggered the Internet Explorer overhaul - which by its turn was the main reason commom users were switching browsers. The web standards compliance came along the way, most probably, fruit of insistence from developers inside Microsoft itself that were listening to the design community at their own homes and time.

The importance of having IE to adopt standards is that it will guarantee a much faster  standards-compliant, client-technology refresh/update on the ordinary user front. Since they hold the majority of the market and new Windows systems, as planned, will practically lock you out if you do not update your system periodically, that might mean that the version gap will close much faster than it used to before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So we have to remember that developer to developer we have to give a certain amount of respect to our peers. I’m not saying we have to agree with them, or not express our very real frustration, but I do think a little respect and encouragement can go a long way, especially now that Microsoft’s people are listening to the standards community more than ever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said Molly.</p>
<p>Guys, I am not sure how many of you work on companies with layers and layers of management, Business operations and Marketing divisions competing wioth each other but putting it plainly: making a website compliant is not a matter of just &#8220;ok, tell the techie boys downstairs that a new era is dawning and Web Standards is vital to our business operations!&#8221;</p>
<p>Developers in most cases have no word or power to change monolitic business models. </p>
<p>It is no different in Microsoft either, the moment came Microsoft had to step up security in IE - and don&#8217;t forget that was the primary business drive that triggered the Internet Explorer overhaul - which by its turn was the main reason commom users were switching browsers. The web standards compliance came along the way, most probably, fruit of insistence from developers inside Microsoft itself that were listening to the design community at their own homes and time.</p>
<p>The importance of having IE to adopt standards is that it will guarantee a much faster  standards-compliant, client-technology refresh/update on the ordinary user front. Since they hold the majority of the market and new Windows systems, as planned, will practically lock you out if you do not update your system periodically, that might mean that the version gap will close much faster than it used to before.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ebessman</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>ebessman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I love you, Molly!  You totally rock!  Keep up the good work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I love you, Molly!  You totally rock!  Keep up the good work&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ebessman</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10685</link>
		<dc:creator>ebessman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;XAML or Avalon is the langauge on Windows, just like what XUL is to Mozilla. Not the Internet… Sorry to disappoint you all!&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Star, I believe you are at best half right... Sorry to disappoint you!

A quick "Google" reveals that there are actually at least two different (and independent) technologies referred to by the same acronym (XAML):

1) Transaction Authority Markup Language (XAML) is a vendor-neutral standard that enables the coordination and processing of online transactions in the rapidly emerging world of XML web services – the revolutionary new model of Internet-based computing that is now being adopted by all major systems and software vendors. XAML is intended to be a completely open standard for web-based business transactions. ...

2) XAML (short for eXtensible Application Markup Language, and pronounced "Zammel") is the user interface definition language for the next version of Microsoft Windows, code named Windows Longhorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>XAML or Avalon is the langauge on Windows, just like what XUL is to Mozilla. Not the Internet… Sorry to disappoint you all!</p></blockquote>
<p>Star, I believe you are at best half right&#8230; Sorry to disappoint you!</p>
<p>A quick &#8220;Google&#8221; reveals that there are actually at least two different (and independent) technologies referred to by the same acronym (XAML):</p>
<p>1) Transaction Authority Markup Language (XAML) is a vendor-neutral standard that enables the coordination and processing of online transactions in the rapidly emerging world of XML web services – the revolutionary new model of Internet-based computing that is now being adopted by all major systems and software vendors. XAML is intended to be a completely open standard for web-based business transactions. &#8230;</p>
<p>2) XAML (short for eXtensible Application Markup Language, and pronounced &#8220;Zammel&#8221;) is the user interface definition language for the next version of Microsoft Windows, code named Windows Longhorn.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Star</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10609</link>
		<dc:creator>Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XAML or Avalon is the langauge on Windows, just like what XUL is to Mozilla.  Not the Internet...  Sorry to disappoint you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XAML or Avalon is the langauge on Windows, just like what XUL is to Mozilla.  Not the Internet&#8230;  Sorry to disappoint you all!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fenrir2</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10534</link>
		<dc:creator>Fenrir2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is XAML an open standard? It would be nice if Web 2.0 is built upon standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is XAML an open standard? It would be nice if Web 2.0 is built upon standards.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: extensions != plugins</title>
		<link>http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/11/02/what-wont-be-fixed-in-ie7/#comment-10511</link>
		<dc:creator>extensions != plugins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@turboweb

extensions != plugins</description>
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<p>extensions != plugins</p>]]></content:encoded>
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