Comments on: Web Essentials 2005: Day One

By: » tom.ma | web essentials 05 day #1

» tom.ma | web essentials 05 day #1 — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:00:37 +0000

[…] “>web essentials 05 day #1 day one at WE05 in sydney finished with a good speech by douglas bowman from the famous folks at stopdesign.com focusing on Ideas for upcoming revolutions, after a kinda unfruitful talk by eric meyer who explained the css engineering process of the new a list apart site in a very elaborately way (after the crowd had to leave the university building due to a false fire alarm). dean jackson from W3C gave a practical introduction to the still widely unused svg format and jeff veen spoke some words (and images) on user centered design. the first podcasts are online so keep an eye on this rss feed for the coverage. update: very good review of day 1 at sitepoint we05 […]

By: vargz

vargz — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:51:36 +0000

Building on what I had experienced at last year’s WE04, Day 1 of WE05 didn’t dissapoint. It’s difficult to choose a standout session/speaker as they were all informative or inspiring in their own way. One thing I did notice was the content had stepped up a level, and I guess this will be the trend for each WE conference to come. It’s a good thing.

Anyway, time for my 2 cents on the SVG controversy. I know little about SVG. I sat in on Dino’s presentation pretty much by accident, but I was glad I did. I knew little about SVG prior so for me it was a good insight into the possibilities for this technology. I think the ‘Geek-O-Meter’ rating of 5 (as on the program) was misleading (it was more a 2 rating) but may explain the change Dean spoke about from a tutorial to more of a preview and the dissapointment of those above, who were expecting more of a practical implentation then demonstrations.

I think Dean held true to his style (having heard him speak before) and as he says himself, he isn’t an evangelist. He has presented SVG as a technologist. As the format matures, it will be up to us to find useful, practical and inspiring ways to use it. I know im excited about the possibilities. So thanks Dino, for your informative and entertaining session on SVG :)

By: wendy phillips

wendy phillips — Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:04:35 +0000

Dean, I’m afraid I have to agree with Kevin on the SVG presentation. I was keen to learn more about this and its practical applications, but the content lacked structure and was more of a ramble - it didn’t go anywhere. Others I spoke to felt the same. It costs a lot to get to these conferences and I’m not sure I will get to go again so I really need to get the best value for my company’s dollar - I also need to take something back to the rest of my team in order to justify going.

By: Tantek

Tantek — Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:07:26 +0000

http://tantek.com/log/2005/09.html#kevinyank

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By: » thomasmarban.com | web essentials 05 day #1

» thomasmarban.com | web essentials 05 day #1 — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:53:14 +0000

[…] web essentials 05 day #1 day one at WE05 in sydney finished with a great and visionary speech by douglas bowman from the famous folks at stopdesign.com after a kinda unfruitful talk by eric meyer who explained the css engineering process of the new a list apart site in a very elaborately way (after the crowd had to leave the university building due to a false fire alarm). podcasts are not yet online but keep an eye on this rss feed for the first coverage. update: very good review of day 1 at sitepoint we05 published September 2005 […]

By: Dean Jackson

Dean Jackson — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:48:04 +0000

Thanks for posting your review of WE05 day 1.

The book I gave away was signed by Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the Web, not Jeffrey Zeldman (who I’d love to meet one day, for reasons described below).

Kevin, could you say what you’d liked to have heard from my SVG presentation? I completely agree that SVG needs a powerful voice to spread the message and I agree even more strongly that I’m not that voice. I’m involved in the technical development, not in envangelism. I had originally intended to give more of a tutorial but I decided that the best way to find the voice the community needs is to give them a glimpse of what is possible. That’s how people like Doug Bowman, Dave Shea and Zeldman got hooked on CSS and went on to become the voices of the technology. None of these gurus are in the W3C group developing CSS. There is plenty of room for people like that in the SVG world. I obviously didn’t inspire you, which is a shame, but I doubt I would have had any more luck by giving a tutorial, even though it would have been a much easier topic for me to present. Anyway, I’d be interested to know what you would have liked to hear.

Thanks.
Dean - dino@w3.org

By: anty

anty — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:28:53 +0000

I would love to be at the WE05 but at least I have you posting this. Thank you very much!
And I would like to know more about the “style API” idea, is there a link to a blog or something similar?
Can’t wait for the podcasts, I’ve begun hearing podcasts only because I want to get as much information as possible form the WE05.
greetings!

By: Mike Empuria

Mike Empuria — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:09:49 +0000

This is above and beyond the call of duty - writing your blog whilst everyone else is partying! Thanks for this review Kevin it’s going to make choosing which podcasts to listen too much easier.

By: ccdesigns

ccdesigns — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:06:38 +0000

Thanks Kevin. There is some great stuff here. I can’t wait for the podcasts to be posted. I wish I could have made it down there for this thing - I used to live in Sydney and I have to say I wouldn’t have minded to get out of Colorado for a week ;)

I look forward to your coming blogs on the conference.