Comments on: Zimbra AjaxTK: A toolkit for AJAX-powered GUIs http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/ News, opinion, and fresh thinking for web developers and designers. The official podcast of sitepoint.com. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:34:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-102969 Anonymous Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:53:43 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-102969 ...there is a cool vector base diagramming library on the Open-jACOB website too. You can build your browser based workflow editor with that javascript tool. nice …there is a cool vector base diagramming library on
the Open-jACOB website too. You can build your browser based workflow
editor with that javascript tool.

nice

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By: FreeGroup http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-87652 FreeGroup Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:10:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-87652 Hi, I have found the jacob frame on http://www.openjacob.org. Now it is under LGPL and with some fine Ajax demo application (with java backend server) greetings FreeGroup Hi,

I have found the jacob frame on http://www.openjacob.org.
Now it is under LGPL and with some fine Ajax demo application
(with java backend server)

greetings

FreeGroup

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By: Andreas Herz http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-16022 Andreas Herz Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:35:12 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-16022 Hi, AjaxTK is greate. But I need more than 'only' a GUI lib. I'm using jACOB. A GUI Designer for Web 2.0 Applications. One important thing for me is the integrated DB-Designer. You can create a DB WebApplication with DragDrop very short flash demo: http://www.tarragon-software.com//jacob/downloads/demo/demo.html (Todolist with database and UI created in 4:10 minutes) Greetings Andreas Hi,

AjaxTK is greate. But I need more than ‘only’ a GUI lib.

I’m using jACOB. A GUI Designer for Web 2.0 Applications.
One important thing for me is the integrated DB-Designer.

You can create a DB WebApplication with DragDrop

very short flash demo:
http://www.tarragon-software.com//jacob/downloads/demo/demo.html
(Todolist with database and UI created in 4:10 minutes)

Greetings

Andreas

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By: OrlandoRed http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-14585 OrlandoRed Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:01:27 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-14585 Lack of documentation for AjaxTK is a real pain. It's really hard to reccommend (or even use) a toolkit like this with no doc. It's a shame because AjaxTK looks well concieved and well executed. Lack of documentation for AjaxTK is a real pain. It’s really hard to reccommend (or even use) a toolkit like this with no doc. It’s a shame because AjaxTK looks well concieved and well executed.

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By: Matthew http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-13425 Matthew Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:34:09 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-13425 To see examples of the AjaxTK widgets in action, or to download the source code, visit the post on this blog <a href="http://matthew.delmarters.com/weblog/ajaxtk_toolkit_from_zimbra/" rel="nofollow">http://matthew.delmarters.com/weblog/ajaxtk_toolkit_from_zimbra/</a>. Hope this helps. To see examples of the AjaxTK widgets in action, or to download the source code, visit the post on this blog http://matthew.delmarters.com/weblog/ajaxtk_toolkit_from_zimbra/.

Hope this helps.

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By: Zimbra - Blog http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-9627 Zimbra - Blog Wed, 05 Oct 2005 22:23:02 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-9627 <strong>Zimbra: Not just a pretty face.</strong> We've been reading what folks are saying about Zimbra. In the forums, news, blogs, and even Slashdot. The biggest mis-conception about Zimbra is that we're just a flashy AJAX client for reading email. While that's true that we've got a... Zimbra: Not just a pretty face.

We’ve been reading what folks are saying about Zimbra. In the forums, news, blogs, and even Slashdot. The biggest mis-conception about Zimbra is that we’re just a flashy AJAX client for reading email. While that’s true that we’ve got a…

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By: 3e-lab, home of rob poitras http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8990 3e-lab, home of rob poitras Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:52:44 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8990 <strong>Who is using Zimbra?</strong> I want to see if anyone is using it. I have spent the last hour or so reading various blogs and other tech sites and I haven’t found any people that have posted a review of the program. I am talking with the admin for the hosting company I use, ... Who is using Zimbra?

I want to see if anyone is using it. I have spent the last hour or so reading various blogs and other tech sites and I haven’t found any people that have posted a review of the program.
I am talking with the admin for the hosting company I use, …

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By: Erik Bruchez http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8907 Erik Bruchez Fri, 23 Sep 2005 03:24:57 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8907 Orbeon PresentationServer (OPS) 3.0, currently in beta, provides an Ajax-enabled XForms implementation, and it is open source! Check it out <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/software/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and at <a href="http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/ops/" rel="nofollow">ObjectWeb</a>. This <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/blog/2005/07/21/about-the-ops-30-xforms-engine/" rel="nofollow">Blog entry</a> explains the rationale behind Ajax XForms. But I think the online examples speak for themselves, including <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/goto-example/xforms-controls" rel="nofollow">XForms Controls</a>, <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/goto-example/xforms-repeat" rel="nofollow">Repeating Elements</a>, <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/goto-example/xforms-calculator" rel="nofollow">Calculator</a>, <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/goto-example/xforms-translate" rel="nofollow">Translate This</a>, and <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/goto-example/flickr-spell" rel="nofollow">Flickr Spell</a>. All the examples are <a href="http://www.orbeon.com/ops/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Orbeon PresentationServer (OPS) 3.0, currently in beta, provides an Ajax-enabled XForms implementation, and it is open source! Check it out here and at ObjectWeb.

This Blog entry explains the rationale behind Ajax XForms.

But I think the online examples speak for themselves, including XForms Controls, Repeating Elements, Calculator, Translate This, and Flickr Spell. All the examples are here.

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By: Sebastian Werner http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8793 Sebastian Werner Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:50:24 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8793 Just make a bit advertising of qooxdoo. For those who doesn't know it already. qooxdoo is an advanced open-source javascript based toolkit. qooxdoo continues where simple HTML is not enough anymore. This way qooxdoo can help you to get your rich web application interface done - easier than ever before. http://qooxdoo.oss.schlund.de/ Just make a bit advertising of qooxdoo. For those who doesn’t know it already.

qooxdoo is an advanced open-source javascript based toolkit. qooxdoo continues where simple HTML is not enough anymore. This way qooxdoo can help you to get your rich web application interface done – easier than ever before.

http://qooxdoo.oss.schlund.de/

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By: Kevin Yank http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8785 Kevin Yank Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:25:34 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8785 For now at least, you need to download the full Zimbra package and pull the AjaxTK files out of it. Some <a href="http://zimbra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20" rel="nofollow">discussion of this</a> in the Zimbra Forums. For now at least, you need to download the full Zimbra package and pull the AjaxTK files out of it. Some discussion of this in the Zimbra Forums.

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By: gihrig http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8770 gihrig Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:24:16 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8770 See http://www.zimbra.com/ See http://www.zimbra.com/

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By: Arndt Touby http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8768 Arndt Touby Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:38:08 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8768 Where can I download AjaxTK? Where can I download AjaxTK?

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By: Kevin Yank http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8756 Kevin Yank Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:43:27 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8756 <blockquote>Does Zimbra work on XP Home?</blockquote> At this time, the Zimbra server will only run on Linux, as it relies on at least one server component not available for Windows: the postfix email server. The client machines that access it can certainly use XP Home, however.

Does Zimbra work on XP Home?

At this time, the Zimbra server will only run on Linux, as it relies on at least one server component not available for Windows: the postfix email server.

The client machines that access it can certainly use XP Home, however.

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By: elemental70 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8746 elemental70 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:15:30 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8746 Does Zimbra work on XP Home? Does Zimbra work on XP Home?

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By: gihrig http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8744 gihrig Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:30:07 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8744 Re: >Ajax shmajax—http://www.bindows.net/ >is a few years older than that term. Yeah, Bindows looks cool ... BUT! $695 per developer! $199 per app, per cpu!!! These guys are NUTS! Sorry, Bindows will never become popular out side the big enterprise at that rate. -Glen Re:

>Ajax shmajax—http://www.bindows.net/
>is a few years older than that term.

Yeah, Bindows looks cool … BUT!

$695 per developer!
$199 per app, per cpu!!!

These guys are NUTS!

Sorry, Bindows will never become popular out side the big enterprise at that rate.

-Glen

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By: jpatterson http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8742 jpatterson Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:08:37 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8742 That Bindows does look good. But theres just one thing that I can see wrong with it, and that's the Buy button. Zimbra is Open Source. That Bindows does look good. But theres just one thing that I can see wrong with it, and that’s the Buy button. Zimbra is Open Source.

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By: NeverMind http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8707 NeverMind Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:54:01 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8707 Bindows is interesting! I should consider working with it.. Bindows is interesting!
I should consider working with it..

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By: Mark Birbeck http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8693 Mark Birbeck Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:58:02 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8693 Great to hear of more software implementing XForms...but I haven't got a clue how something can be "largely unimplemented" :) I suppose you could mean that of the full standard only a percentage of it has been implemented, but you'd be wrong -- formsPlayer, X-Smiles and the Novell XForms Browser all implemented the full standard a few years ago. So perhaps you mean that there aren't many implementations -- but again, in addition to the three full implementations I have just mentioned, there is the PureEdge one (recently bought by IBM), there's Mozilla, and there are numerous JavaScript/AJAX hybrids (Chiba, FormsFaces, Orbeon, to name just the ones I can think of now). (More info on most of these is at <a href="http://www.xforms-wiki.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xforms-wiki.com/</a>) Of course if you mean "undeployed" then that is certainly true, but in the great scheme of things this is a new technology, and the interest in AJAX shows that there is a need for tools and software that make building apps easier. Exciting times for rich client software though! And don't get me wrong...great article. Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. w: <a href="http://www.formsPlayer.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.formsPlayer.com/</a> b: <a href="http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/</a> Great to hear of more software implementing XForms…but I haven’t got a clue how something can be “largely unimplemented” :)

I suppose you could mean that of the full standard only a percentage of it has been implemented, but you’d be wrong — formsPlayer, X-Smiles and the Novell XForms Browser all implemented the full standard a few years ago.

So perhaps you mean that there aren’t many implementations — but again, in addition to the three full implementations I have just mentioned, there is the PureEdge one (recently bought by IBM), there’s Mozilla, and there are numerous JavaScript/AJAX hybrids (Chiba, FormsFaces, Orbeon, to name just the ones I can think of now).

(More info on most of these is at http://www.xforms-wiki.com/)

Of course if you mean “undeployed” then that is certainly true, but in the great scheme of things this is a new technology, and the interest in AJAX shows that there is a need for tools and software that make building apps easier.

Exciting times for rich client software though! And don’t get me wrong…great article.

Mark Birbeck
CEO
x-port.net Ltd.
w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/
b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/

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By: BerislavLopac http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/comment-page-1/#comment-8691 BerislavLopac Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:20:12 +0000 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2005/09/13/zimbra-ajaxtk-a-toolkit-for-ajax-powered-guis/#comment-8691 Ajax shmajax -- http://www.bindows.net/ is a few years older than that term. Ajax shmajax — http://www.bindows.net/ is a few years older than that term.

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